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The restructuring of the deal by HOU essentially now making Diggs playing on a 1 year deal to prove he deserves another big payday may certainly motivate him to be on his best behavior and give his best effort, but looking at the last couple seasons where he had production drop offs later in the season, perhaps he is at a point where being the 1B in an offense is a better fit, if he can accept that role. For HOU, Collins is the ascending talent as your 1A, Diggs is the just past prime but still stud potential 1B and Dell fits in perfectly as the slot weapon. If you can keep Diggs ego in check with the potential deal he’s playing for, even if it turns into a 1 year rental for HOU the cost of a 2nd could be worth it if they can make a deep playoff run.

https://x.com/patrickmorantb/status/1775542006288375881?s=46&t=Znse-aVpnoV2_txARwAcOQ This was more than a salary dump - Bills ate a ton of dead cap space and took another hit this year to the cap by not waiting until after June 1st to make the move for a future pick, at which point they could have spread the cap hit over two years. Either the relationship got to the point of being that toxic, or the Bills had a major reason to get that pick now before this years draft, perhaps as a piece they will use to move up. Pure speculation on my part.

Either approach would be fine. Man, first you describe the league as veto happy, and now you say you have position limits - I know these are your buddies, but man it's a lot of red flags for a league.

If it's 1 QB, then not a lot of value in comparison to RB/WR assuming fairly standard lineups and scoring system. If you switch to Superflex, it changes the calculus drastically.

Big time score to get the 1.7 for that. I know you have your heart set on Williams but this appears to be a very strong QB class, so even if you don't move up to get Williams and if he doesn't fall to you, you can still get a Daniels/May/McCarthy type who may go on to have similar fantasy value as Williams.

Twitter thread from Drew Davenport with some of the legal perspectives thus far. TL;DR - don't jump to conclusions so fast

I was clear on what you were saying. Your offer is pretty light for what you are asking to get, even with Pickens added to it. But everyone values players differently, so maybe he’d go for it.

Regarding the veto - get it out of the league - let owner's manage their teams as they see fit. When it can be weaponized on perfectly fine trades it just ruins leagues. The fact that this has happened multiple times in the past tells me that this is definitely not a league I would want to play in. Regarding the offer, send it over. I think it's a bit light without Pickens in there and would maybe open with Pickens instead of Sutton or give him the choice of either one, but that's what negotiation is for. Everyone has different valuations on players and picks, it's how both parties can come out of a trade feeling happy and like they improved.

Why not try trade for both?

I'm still of the mind that in 1 QB leagues, you need to be careful not to overrate them. Having a point per completion does change things a bit, but then you want to find the high volume pocket passers - it actually devalues the hybrid QBs that run a lot a fair bit as the rushing doesn't make up ground on the QB that passes 40+ times a game if they are only throwing 25 times and picking up 40-50 yards rushing on average. While it's still likely not the way I would approach it, using the 3 on a QB is not terrible, but if it means passing on a MHJ/Nabors it probably is still a pretty bad idea. Instead of trying to send Hooker to the Goff owner, see if you can get him to send you Goff - he was #2 in the league last year in completions and attempts with no reason to think that will go down this year, and with Harbaugh in town likely looking to implement a run first offense, no reason to think Herbert will suddenly spike in passing attempts.

Yes, and they got the #9 as part of the deal for the #1 overall

Or it all ends up being a smoke screen and they go get themselves another massive haul for the #1 pick and roll with Fields. I think that's less likely than just taking Williams, but it's an intriguing option. So far they have turned the 2023 #1 overall pick into: WR DJ Moore WR Keenan Allen CB Tyrique Stevenson OT Darnell Wright #1 Overall 2024 Pick 2025 2nd Round pick

What would be your goal with dealing the 3 in that scenario? You do likely get better at WR going from Pickens to AJB, though his production trailed off badly at the end of the season, but you likely get worse at TE and drop from an elite prospect pick to 2 pretty good prospects. It's a "fair" trade, but I don't know that you necessarily come out better from it. I'm not very bullish on Harris, so using him to move up is something I wouldn't be opposed to doing. Heck, if the guy at 1 needs an RB, maybe you build something on Harris and the #3 for the #1. You draft MHJ, and he still gets a top 3 WR at 3 to go with adding Harris to his RB room. If his team is bad enough where it needs multiple pieces to be competitive, he may be receptive to such a deal, especially since it seems your league really values RBs highly.

You have 5.5 months until your draft. I think you are massively overthinking it right now, especially if most of your league mates aren't likely to do anything until after they see where players go in the draft and likely start getting camp reports with how late your draft is. But, it can't hurt to send out feelers to see who is even interested in moving up to or for your #3 pick - it's silly not to at least listen to offers. And you should stay in touch with the guy at 1 and see if he'd at least give you a sense of what he would want for the pick. Maybe you get lucky and his asking price is very low and you can swoop in before anyone else starts hitting him up. Being a PPR league, unless you have relatively novice owners or you really know your owners, I think you may be overestimating how the RBs will be valued and underestimating the WRs. I know you keep saying QB scores are high, but if all QB scores are high and they are still a relatively flat position like most typical scoring systems, then that does not make them more valuable, it just makes them higher scoring and a more volatile position.

I've said it before, but I'll say it once more than let it go - your potential offer of the 1.3 and a bump up in the 2nd, or the 1.3 and a guy like Sutton or Pickens for the 1.1 are all very low offers compared to what the 1.1 is going for right now. Heck, the 1.3, 2.3 and a WR like Sutton without him including his 2nd rounder would be considered a low offer from just about everything I'm seeing. All that to say, if that's the type of package he would take now, offer it now and get it done. As far the multiple scenarios you mentioned with Andrews, basically you could try deal him to be in a spot for Bowers, but then you're drafting Bowers hoping that he is Andrews just younger and hoping he doesn't get misused like Pitts so far. If you are confident in Bowers and not just having rookie fever, then by all means shop Andrews for what you can get. And if your heart is set on Williams, take him at 3. Personally, nothing has changed for me from the way I'd plan to approach it from my first reply - with the 1.3 take Nabers/Odunze and then address QB at the 2.3. If Williams and MHJ go in the top 2, and you're not sold on either of those WRs, then look to sell the pick, or, at that time, if you really like Bowers landing spot, you can look to sell Andrews and then take Bowers at 1.3