Bier Meister Posted November 22, 2005 Author Share Posted November 22, 2005 How did KJ make the cut? availability, affordability, and a typical caliornian..... Say we simply pick a varietal for the week, let everyone go out and try a few at their leisure and report back with their findings? At anyrate, if it's OK with y'all, that's how I'm gonna play it. feel free to do that.... we wanted to do it collectively, as some of this is educational.... so those newer to wine can get an idea of what more experienced palettes are drawing from misc wines. we aslo want decent representations of the particular varietal..... after we go through the basic, we'll start branching off. 1166757[/snapback] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twiley Posted November 22, 2005 Share Posted November 22, 2005 How did KJ make the cut? What if we loosened up the format? Say we simply pick a varietal for the week, let everyone go out and try a few at their leisure and report back with their findings? This way we'd get a broader range of input. The downside, of course, is that we wont come to a consensus on any specific wines, but we will learn about a bunch of different ones. At anyrate, if it's OK with y'all, that's how I'm gonna play it. 1166757[/snapback] I see your point. Quite a few people aren't that familar with wine but want to be so we figured the first 9 weeks or so could be more educational. We'll get into more complex tastings as the weeks/years go by. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gilthorp Posted November 22, 2005 Share Posted November 22, 2005 About 90% of my 50 or so bottles are from here. http://www.lynfredwinery.com/ It would be easier for me if I were to just open my Riesling from them instead of going to buy a new bottle from the store. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gilthorp Posted November 23, 2005 Share Posted November 23, 2005 I've got an 04 and a 99 Reisling after picking up my orders yesterday. I have no idea if that 99 will be as good as it could be...I'm not much of a white wine guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiegie Posted November 23, 2005 Share Posted November 23, 2005 FYI for those of you in the STL area: I just grabbed a bottle of the KJ on sale at Dierburg's for $8.99. (I still haven't seen the August Kesseler anywhere though). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twiley Posted November 23, 2005 Share Posted November 23, 2005 (I still haven't seen the August Kesseler anywhere though). 1170102[/snapback] I'm having a hard time finding it as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bier Meister Posted November 23, 2005 Author Share Posted November 23, 2005 because i'm i a remote area, i figured that whatever i found would be avilable for you guys as well. twil, if you want to find another reasonably priced dry riesling (german or alsacian) go for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seattle LawDawg Posted November 24, 2005 Share Posted November 24, 2005 because i'm i a remote area, i figured that whatever i found would be avilable for you guys as well. twil, if you want to find another reasonably priced dry riesling (german or alsacian) go for it. 1170260[/snapback] I couldn't find the Kessler either. I went to 4 different wine shops yesterday including the largest in Seattle. Instead, I picked up an 02 Dr. Loosen and I may pick up a Northwest Riesling instead of the KJ. If I can find one, an Okanagan might do nicely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FWmaker Posted November 24, 2005 Share Posted November 24, 2005 Bier: I'll head out to see if I can pick up those selections. How do they compare to V.Satui's Rieslings? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bier Meister Posted November 24, 2005 Author Share Posted November 24, 2005 Bier: I'll head out to see if I can pick up those selections. How do they compare to V.Satui's Rieslings? 1170682[/snapback] sattui does a dry and an off-dry...... both are quite sweet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skippy Posted November 24, 2005 Share Posted November 24, 2005 sattui does a dry and an off-dry...... both are quite sweet. 1170695[/snapback] Okay, time for a dumb question. When you say dry vs off-dry does that mean not so sweet vs sweet? I played around with two Firestone Vineyards Rieslings yesterday, (they were the only Rieslings my ghetto store had), the dry, while okay, seemed much less sweet than the off-dry. My two buddies both thought that the off-sweet bottle was much better as did I. BTW - these two bottles were on sale for $7.99 and $8.99. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twiley Posted November 24, 2005 Share Posted November 24, 2005 (edited) Okay, time for a dumb question. When you say dry vs off-dry does that mean not so sweet vs sweet? I played around with two Firestone Vineyards Rieslings yesterday, (they were the only Rieslings my ghetto store had), the dry, while okay, seemed much less sweet than the off-dry. My two buddies both thought that the off-sweet bottle was much better as did I. BTW - these two bottles were on sale for $7.99 and $8.99. 1171112[/snapback] With an off-dry wine you'll be able to pick up a hint of sweetness. Meaning the wines residual sugar is barely noticeable. Now, I'm sure you're asking yourself Khloe, Kim and Kourtney Kardashian is residual sugar? Residual sugar is the unfermented sugar found in the finished wine. Residual sugar is usually desired in dessert wines or sweeter whites. Edited November 24, 2005 by twiley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bier Meister Posted November 24, 2005 Author Share Posted November 24, 2005 As those who are, or have been, in the industry know/s....hollidays suck. i will not be very availible throughout the weekend. i'll ask twil and sld to pick up my slack..... i only request that since i have now picked up 4 bottle (2 pinot, 2 riesling), that we try to at least stay with the KJ. i'll look for posts on what the other might be. perhaps those who were able to find the August Kesseler can do that comparison with me (so they don't have to get another bottle as well), and the rest can do the other 2 bottles... so everyone will do the KJ, and then we have several doing the other????? i am willing to get the third so i can participate in all 3. thanks and have a good turkey day Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
detlef Posted November 25, 2005 Share Posted November 25, 2005 With an off-dry wine you'll be able to pick up a hint of sweetness. Meaning the wines residual sugar is barely noticeable. Now, I'm sure you're asking yourself Khloe, Kim and Kourtney Kardashian is residual sugar? Residual sugar is the unfermented sugar found in the finished wine. Residual sugar is usually desired in dessert wines or sweeter whites. 1171366[/snapback] It should be noted that certain wines, including Riesling and to a much larger extent, Gewurtztraminer can often fool your palate into thinking they are sweeter than they actually are. If you think about properties sweet liquids have, they are often somewhat viscous and fruity. Well these wines definately have the fruit and often have high levels of glycerin which gives them a rather viscous texture. Thus they remind your palate of syrup which it equates with sweetness. Thus, even if these wines are technically bone dry, they might not seems so. Also, a wine can have trace amounts of residual sugar and still be classified as dry (I forget exactly how much). FWIW, sec and demi-sec mean the same thing with moulleux being totally sweet. You'll typically find these distinctions in reference to French wines from the Loire Valley. The Champagne equivelant is Brut Zero or Extra Brut(absolutely no sugar, which is very uncommon and frankly not very good), Brut (almost no sugar which is much more common and tastes quite dry), Extra Dry (which is oddly less dry than Brut), Demi-Sec, and Cremant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twiley Posted November 28, 2005 Share Posted November 28, 2005 August Kesseler Still trying to find it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seattle LawDawg Posted November 28, 2005 Share Posted November 28, 2005 August KesselerStill trying to find it. 1178278[/snapback] Ya, I wasn't able to find it. I did pick up a dry(er) german riesling though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bier Meister Posted December 3, 2005 Author Share Posted December 3, 2005 updated the format to reflect the staggered progression and added the 2 pinot noirs for the tuesday tasting...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bier Meister Posted December 7, 2005 Author Share Posted December 7, 2005 skip, sorry you missed it... fun night... just keep looking for the wines, dates and times..it'll come together for ya. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiegie Posted December 7, 2005 Share Posted December 7, 2005 I couldn't play along this week. I am stuck at work until at least 2am. I am going to pick up the suggested wine and give it a try but that probably won't happen until Thursday. 1198091[/snapback] do yourself a favor and only buy the Napa Ridge Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sundaynfl Posted December 7, 2005 Share Posted December 7, 2005 I was a single parent last night and was uinable to partake! Sounds like a good time. I was able to try the Duck Pond and found it a little to Ducky (earthen or barn yard) initially; it evolved as I drank through .5 the bottle... but didn't get a whole lot better. I hope for better participation int he next few weeks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bier Meister Posted December 9, 2005 Author Share Posted December 9, 2005 looks like my next days off are the 17th and 18th.... next sat/sun. you guys have to coordinate the pinot grigios/gris. post the wines, i'll hav eto pick them up and drink them on my own... and then compare them to your reviews. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twiley Posted December 12, 2005 Share Posted December 12, 2005 Let's try and see if these 2 are easy to get: King Estate - Pinot Grigio 2003 Giovanni Puiatti - Pinot Grigio - $15.99 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiegie Posted December 12, 2005 Share Posted December 12, 2005 Let's try and see if these 2 are easy to get: King Estate - Pinot Grigio 2003 Giovanni Puiatti - Pinot Grigio - $15.99 1209202[/snapback] If I can't get the Giovanni Puiatti should I get a Santa Margherita? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bier Meister Posted December 12, 2005 Author Share Posted December 12, 2005 (edited) well.... hit the store with the largest selection and could not find any of the wines mentioned.... i ended up getting: - ruffino lumina- 04 - chateau ste michelle- 04 both were in our price range. edit: i guess i need to ask if you guys want to do it tonight or tomorrow, and at what time? Edited December 12, 2005 by Bier Meister Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bier Meister Posted December 12, 2005 Author Share Posted December 12, 2005 making marsala and risotto w/ portobellos tonight..... i still have the pinot noir as well.... we shall see what pairs well with what if i'm going to guess..... the pinot noir will go well with the risotto and neither will shine with the marsala (maybe a nod to the pinot noir due to the earthiness of the mushrooms). it's just so sweet..... maybe a beaujolais or sangiovese. btw- picked up the duboef nouveau today.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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