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White Zinfandel and Merlot


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I hate White Zinfandel! Primarily because it reminds me of a bad vomiting experience in a jacuzzi with 2 chicks wanting to ride the Spain Train. :D But thats for another thread. Anywho, we always do Christmas eve at my house. My aunt and uncle always insist on having white zin. I usually just go with the old standby of Berringers or Sutters Home(the culprit of the aforementioned vomitus incident). What are the best White Zinfandels that I should get for under $35?

 

Also, I am a Merlot fan and have tried a number of them. What are some of your all time Merlot favorites? For this one. make the high end of the cost range about $50. Thanks for your opinions my huddler bon vivants!

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I hate White Zinfandel!  Primarily because it reminds me of a bad vomiting experience in a jacuzzi with 2 chicks wanting to ride the Spain Train. :D  But thats for another thread.  Anywho, we always do Christmas eve at my house.  My aunt and uncle always insist on having white zin.  I usually just go with the old standby of Berringers or Sutters Home(the culprit of the aforementioned vomitus incident).  What are the best White Zinfandels that I should get for under $35? 

 

Also, I am a Merlot fan and have tried a number of them.  What are some of your all time Merlot favorites?  For this one. make the high end of the cost range about $50.  Thanks for your opinions my huddler bon vivants!

 

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Best White Zin? Not sure I've ever heard those words together. Stick some of the boxed crap in a bottle and they'll never know.

 

I'm not a huge Merlot fan at all, but if you can find it, pick up a bottle of Tapteil. Some of the other guys will probably have more advice. A good $50 bottle of merlot should not be hard to find.

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i think you are doign fine with the berringer white zin....

 

merlot:

duckhorn

joseph phelps

raymond

cakebread

stag's leap

 

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I have had all of the bolded wines and they are all fine choices. I also like William Hill, and Blackstone (which is only maybe $11 per bottle, but very nice).

 

I find good merlot to be probably the easiest thing on the market to find. Except maybe White Zinfandel for under $35...

 

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I'm on my fifth glass of Piesporter Michelsberg.  They are only like $9 a bottle but pretty tasty (embarassingly they are twist off which I didn't realize until I put the corkscrew threw the lid).  :D

 

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There's nothing to be embarassed about with a wine being twist off. Over the next few years you will see more and more mid range wines becoming twist off.

 

I am sure the 'finer' wines will continue to use a cork, but there is a general move away from corks.

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There's nothing to be embarassed about with a wine being twist off.  Over the next few years you will see more and more mid range wines becoming twist off.

 

I am sure the 'finer' wines will continue to use a cork, but there is a general move away from corks.

 

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Absolutely correct. There are some top "finer" wine makers playing with screwcaps or synthetic corks as well.

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Absolutely correct.  There are some top "finer" wine makers playing with screwcaps or synthetic corks as well.

 

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Sure...I only meant that it would be a while before you started seeing a bottle of Caymus with a screw cap, is all. Makers like BV that have a wide range of price selection will probably bring their lower end wined to it.

 

The reason I don't think you will see top of the line bottles using the screw caps is that the snoots of the world wouldn'd accept it. That and the long term viability of a properly stored wine with a cork is somewhat a known. Screw cap, not so much.

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Sure...I only meant that it would be a while before you started seeing a bottle of Caymus with a screw cap, is all.  Makers like BV that have a wide range of price selection will probably bring their lower end wined to it.

 

The reason I don't think you will see top of the line bottles using the screw caps is that the snoots of the world wouldn'd accept it.  That and the long term viability of a properly stored wine with a cork is somewhat a known.  Screw cap, not so much.

 

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There are some side projects from the people at Caymus that already use screw caps.

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"I'm not drinkin' any (the really bad word)in' merlot!"

 

as a result of this movie..... average pinot is now over-priced, but there is a nice abundance of merlot :D

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What movie is that from?

 

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Sideways...

 

Although I am not a huge fan of merlot... there are some good one's out there. I just received some Blankiet Merlot that is a great wine! Helen Turley is the winemaker. Their Cab. is fantastic as well!

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This is a good article.

 

It shows why screw caps are better. IMHO the top wineries need to get this info out a with a little bit more vigor. If more people were educated as to the scenario, they would be more ready to accept the screw cap. As it is now, people associate the screw cap with bad, cheap wine. That's not a good marketing tool.

 

EDIT: This is interesting as well.

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Espana, for you I would go with Fat B*stard or Mad Dogs (& Englishmen). Just won a contest that scored a basket full of both. Most of the so called wine eggsperts seemed to like them during my Xmas partay. The FB Shiraz was quite good IMO, then again I'm a brewer of beer and know only that process extensively.

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