Chief Dick Posted January 12, 2006 Share Posted January 12, 2006 Warren Moon for sure. Lord, the guy lost FIVE YEARS to the CFL. Imagine his numbers with 5 more seasons of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retrograde assault Posted January 12, 2006 Share Posted January 12, 2006 I'm hoping the Big Cat gets in, he should! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kraftykraft Posted January 12, 2006 Share Posted January 12, 2006 I think Monk, Reggie White, Aikman, Thurman Thomas, and Moon. Maybe Derrick Thomas too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bring Back Pat!!! Posted January 12, 2006 Share Posted January 12, 2006 This year should be Monk, Aikman, Madden & White. Moon, Thomas & Thomas belong eventually, just not this year, imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kansas State 2000 Posted January 12, 2006 Share Posted January 12, 2006 Monk, Aikman, D. Thomas, Madden & White Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Posted January 12, 2006 Share Posted January 12, 2006 (edited) These 6 should make it before anyone else: Art Monk Art Monk Art Monk Art Monk Art Monk Art Monk Madden is a strong possibility as well. He holds one of those 'stat book' records: he is one of 3 or 4 coaches to win ten regular season games in his first ten years. Shula and Ditka being 2 others, and Ditka had the 16 game schedule advantage.... 1260378[/snapback] That idiot Peter King votes against him every year. Edit: Monk that is. Edited January 12, 2006 by Sam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azazello1313 Posted January 12, 2006 Share Posted January 12, 2006 I admit I'm not really familiar with these guys, except for the names of Wright and Zimmerman. Which probably means they aren't HOF material. 1260746[/snapback] i think what it probably means is that they weren't flashy skill position players and they either played on teams you didnt watch or were too young to watch. of the 4 guys you mentioned, 3 made 6 pro bowls each and zimmerman made 7. but i guess since you haven't heard of them they don't belong in the HOF. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunysteelfly76 Posted January 13, 2006 Share Posted January 13, 2006 These 6 should make it before anyone else: Art Monk Art Monk Art Monk Art Monk Art Monk Art Monk 1260378[/snapback] I don't understand how Monk isn't in already. He is 5th all time in receptions and 8th all time in yardage. At one point he was the all time receptions leader. The only thing I can see why he wouldn't be in is that he only scored 68 TD's(just over 4 per year av), and that is a weak arguement considering his other accomplishments. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zooty Posted January 13, 2006 Share Posted January 13, 2006 The argument against Monk is that he was a compiler. By playing so long he amassed great numbers and was never a dominate player. I disagree with this. I watched him kill the Eagles for years with a Run-First team. If he had been on a passing team his numbers would be even better. I would put in Monk, Carson, Derrick Thomas, Reggie, Greenwood & Aikman ( ) Thurman & Moon can go next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
no one Posted February 1, 2006 Share Posted February 1, 2006 Rayfield Wright, ot, 1967-79, Dallas -- No clue.1260320[/snapback] In today’s NFL, defenses want their best pass rusher on the weak side of the offensive formation, the quarterback’s blind side. Speed rushes from that side – the left side – translate into bone-rattling hits, sacks and fumbles. Defenses don’t want the quarterback to see what’s coming. Back in the 1970s, there was a different philosophy. The best pass rushers played on the strong side, the right side. The quarterback could see the defensive end from that side coming. That’s the way defenses wanted it. “You wanted the pressure in the quarterback’s face,” said Hall of Famer Jack Youngblood, who played the left side for the Los Angeles Rams. Youngblood inherited the position in Los Angeles from another Hall of Famer, Deacon Jones. Hall of Famer Carl Eller played the left side for the Minnesota Vikings in the 1970s. L.C. Greenwood and Claude Humphrey, who are both Hall of Fame finalists for the Class of 2006, also played left defensive end in the 1970s. So did Ed “Too Tall” Jones in Dallas and Bubba Smith at Baltimore. Both were first overall picks of drafts. To succeed in the 1970s, you needed to block the left defensive ends. Nobody blocked them better than Rayfield Wright of the Cowboys. He was the best blocker on one of the best teams in the NFL. The Cowboys led the NFC in offense six times and rushing four times in the 1970s decade. Dallas also finished in the NFL’s top 10 in scoring all 10 seasons, powering the Cowboys to seven division titles, five NFC titles and two Super Bowl championships. Wright was one of four offensive tackles selected to the 1970s all-decade team. He’s the only one not in the Hall of Fame. He’s also a finalist for the Class of 2006. As a seniors candidate, this is probably Wright’s last chance for induction. He belongs. Ask those left defensive ends from the 1970s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jumpin Johnies Posted February 1, 2006 Share Posted February 1, 2006 In today’s NFL, defenses want their best pass rusheron the weak side of the offensive formation, the quarterback’s blind side. Speed rushes from that side – the left side – translate into bone-rattling hits, sacks and fumbles. Defenses don’t want the quarterback to see what’s coming. Back in the 1970s, there was a different philosophy. The best pass rushers played on the strong side, the right side. The quarterback could see the defensive end from that side coming. That’s the way defenses wanted it. “You wanted the pressure in the quarterback’s face,” said Hall of Famer Jack Youngblood, who played the left side for the Los Angeles Rams. Youngblood inherited the position in Los Angeles from another Hall of Famer, Deacon Jones. Hall of Famer Carl Eller played the left side for the Minnesota Vikings in the 1970s. L.C. Greenwood and Claude Humphrey, who are both Hall of Fame finalists for the Class of 2006, also played left defensive end in the 1970s. So did Ed “Too Tall” Jones in Dallas and Bubba Smith at Baltimore. Both were first overall picks of drafts. To succeed in the 1970s, you needed to block the left defensive ends. Nobody blocked them better than Rayfield Wright of the Cowboys. He was the best blocker on one of the best teams in the NFL. The Cowboys led the NFC in offense six times and rushing four times in the 1970s decade. Dallas also finished in the NFL’s top 10 in scoring all 10 seasons, powering the Cowboys to seven division titles, five NFC titles and two Super Bowl championships. Wright was one of four offensive tackles selected to the 1970s all-decade team. He’s the only one not in the Hall of Fame. He’s also a finalist for the Class of 2006. As a seniors candidate, this is probably Wright’s last chance for induction. He belongs. Ask those left defensive ends from the 1970s. 1298382[/snapback] This is the 1st time I've seen you post but your member is #4. Your post is very informative you must be a closet knowledge dropper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big John Posted February 1, 2006 Share Posted February 1, 2006 This is the 1st time I've seen you post but your member is #4. Your post is very informative you must be a closet knowledge dropper. 1298409[/snapback] KS2K's alias. He somehow got this account as it used to be DMD's secondary account. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jumpin Johnies Posted February 1, 2006 Share Posted February 1, 2006 KS2K's alias. He somehow got this account as it used to be DMD's secondary account. 1298419[/snapback] Must've won it in a league or a bet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ziachild007 Posted February 1, 2006 Share Posted February 1, 2006 Warren Moon for sure. Lord, the guy lost FIVE YEARS to the CFL. Imagine his numbers with 5 more seasons of them. 1260823[/snapback] He has more professional passing yards than any other QB in history. By that I mean his NFL totals and his CFL totals combined. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
broncosn05 Posted February 1, 2006 Share Posted February 1, 2006 Bob Kuechenberg, g, 1970-84, Miami!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ursa Majoris Posted February 1, 2006 Share Posted February 1, 2006 He has more professional passing yards than any other QB in history. By that I mean his NFL totals and his CFL totals combined. 1298724[/snapback] That's cheating. A CFL field is 10 yards longer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robash Posted February 1, 2006 Share Posted February 1, 2006 Harry Carson, lb, 1976-88, New York Giants -- Honestly don't know enough about the guy. 1260320[/snapback] Harry Carson's 13-year stint with the New York Football Giants is one of the longest tenures in club history. The indestructible former linebacker served as Team Captain for 10 of his 13 seasons including the 1986 season when the Giants defeated the Denver Broncos 39-20 in Super Bowl XXI. Rated the #1 "Inside Linebacker" in NFL history according to Pro Football Weekly, Carson was named to the All-Rookie Team after his first NFL season. Subsequently, during his NFL career, he was named to the All-NFL Team 7 times, the All-NFC Team 8 times, and NFC Linebacker of the Year twice. He once made an amazing 25 tackles in a Monday Night Football Game against the Green Bay Packers. With performances like that he was selected by his peers to play in the NFC-AFC Pro Bowl 9 times and is among the top 300 players to ever play in the National Football League.---taken from harrycarson.com I'm not sure that all of these guys will get in, especially this year, but I would say that all of these guys are Hall Of Fame calibre. Actually surprised Derrick Thomas, John Madden, and Harry Carson aren't in already.These two I'll have to look at, but I sense they are borderline. I admit I'm not really familiar with these guys, except for the names of Wright and Zimmerman. Which probably means they aren't HOF material. 1260746[/snapback] here is a link in his own words about this....he deserves to be there. this guy never even played linebacker until drafted by the giants...and he wins all-rookie honors Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nogohawk Posted February 1, 2006 Share Posted February 1, 2006 Who will make it in 2006? My guesses: Derrick Thomas Reggie White Troy Aikman Russ Grimm LC Greenwood Art Monk (not likely but should be there) 1260148[/snapback] I have to agree on this list BJ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Posted February 1, 2006 Share Posted February 1, 2006 From czabe.com Last add (I swear!) on Hall of Fame wide receivers…. Peter King’s arguments against Monk include the following…. 1. “He was only voted to 3 Pro Bowls.” (Rebuttal: Fine, so was Charlie Joiner, Lynn Swann, and John Stallworth. It’s also worth noting, John Riggins only went to ONE Pro Bowl. Tells you what that’s worth. 2. “Modern wideout numbers are threatening to obliterate Monk’s catch total.” He cites Keenan McCardell, Jimmy Smith, Marvin Harrison as examples. Okay fine. But they aren’t Monk’s contemporaries. If you look up at Pro Football Reference the list of Most Catches in a Season, the staggering number of 100-plus catch years is amazing. Monk’s 106 in 1984 is notable however in one very important respect. It’s the ONLY such mark from the entire decade! Once 1993 rolled around, wideouts began racking up 100 catch seasons like it was nothing. Hell, even scrubs like Brett Perriman had 100-ball years! 3. “Monk was the 4th most dangerous weapon on those Redskin teams.” Please. Ricky Sanders, while a nice compliment wideout, could hardly be considered a “bigger weapon” than Monk. Comments like this really make you question King’s ability to judge ANYTHING in regard to pro football. Finally, I want to layout a pair of wide receiver numbers, and you tell me who is who. Receiver A: 13 Seasons 5 Pro Bowls 743 Rec. 10,205 Yds 84 TD Receiver B: 12 Seasons 5 Pro Bowls 750 Rec. 11,904 Yds 65 TD Both receiver A and B were Top 10 in the league in Touchdowns (5 times each) and Catches (4 times each). The only significant difference is that Receiver A has just one Super Bowl ring, while B has three. Who are they? A = Andre Rison B = Michael Irvin And yet I don’t hear anybody banging the drum for Bad Moon for Canton, do you? Link Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjpro11 Posted February 1, 2006 Share Posted February 1, 2006 this is a pretty darn stacked class of eligible players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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