Chief Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 February 1, 2006 6:15 PM ET Lions: Martz added to the staff The News The Lions got a new offensive coordinator on Wednesday. The St. Louis Post-Dispatch reports that former Rams head coach Mike Martz has agreed to fill that post under new head coach Rod Marinelli. Our View Martz made fantasy stars out of many pieces of the Rams' offense during his time in St. Louis and there's certainly enough talent in Motown for his to repeat his success. However, the trick will be getting the skill position players to perform up to their potential, which has proven to be a very difficult task. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I can't find any other sources backing this up, anyone else confirm anything? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Egret Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 I may need to move my SuperBowl predictions up about 4 years. SuperBowl XLI Champions! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swashbucklers Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 Every year the Lions find some way to make their fans think that this year will be different. And every year the same thing happens, anywhere between a 3-13 and a 6-10 season. Let us hope that Martz is the offensive savior that we have been waiting for, even though we all know that he cannot do it himself! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billay Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 Even if their record doesn't improve, this should bode well fantasy wise for their recievers, no? (That is, assuming they can find a QB in the offseason) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiegie Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 Lions fans--remember that under Mike Martz, Az Hakim was a good receiver when he was in St. Louis. If I were you, I would be optimistic. (And as someone who gets stuck watching the Lions play every week, I am happy as they should be a lot more interesting this year.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cre8tiff Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 Even if their record doesn't improve, this should bode well fantasy wise for their recievers, no? (That is, assuming they can find a QB in the offseason) 1300720[/snapback] As far as QBs are concerned, look at what Martz did with arguably inferior talent at QB (Bulger, Green, Warner). Here is a great passage from Brian Burwell, a columnist in St. Louis.: So Martz needs to find someplace to rehabilitate his damaged reputation, and I can't think of a better place than with the sorry, no-account Lions. For the record, look at his resume of offensive development. He knows how to turn offenses around. He knows how to spot and groom offensive skill players, particularly quarterbacks. He was the one who convinced Dick Vermeil that Tony Banks was not the man to lead the Rams to the playoffs. He was the man who took an unknown third-string quarterback out of Northern Iowa (Kurt Warner) and turned him into one of the most prolific passers in NFL history. He's the one who identified a sixth-year backup out of Indiana with only one NFL pass to his credit (Trent Green) and sent him on his path toward the Pro Bowl. He's the same guy who took another faceless free-agent backup who had bounced around the fringes of the NFL (Marc Bulger) and turned him into a Pro Bowl MVP. If I were Harrington, I would be a very happy guy today. Here is a to the article. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Egret Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 As a typical Lions fan, as long as the games are good I'll be happy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whiskey Pimp Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 Not that anyone had Kevin Jones going in the first or second round of fantasy drafst before this, but where does he go now with the pass happy Martz? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dirty Barber Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 If I were Harrington, I would be a very happy guy today. Or very worried. Martz could be convincing Marinelli that Harrington is not the answer in dtown. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kraftykraft Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 I think Martz as an OC is a good move. As long as he doesn't have to manage the clock, and he has a head coach to lean on him to not abandon the run midway through the second quarter, I think that Martz is a good OC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chiefjay Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 Is this final yet? I heard the deal isn't done yet on local radio this morning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pope Flick Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 I don't see what all of the excotement is about: who's going to play QB for him? Is Warner a free agent? If not who out there could sign and do well under a new system? McCown? Or does anyone think Harrington is still the answer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cre8tiff Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 I don't see what all of the excotement is about: who's going to play QB for him? Is Warner a free agent? If not who out there could sign and do well under a new system? McCown? Or does anyone think Harrington is still the answer? 1300950[/snapback] How about a trade for Rivers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
junebugz Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 I don't see what all of the excotement is about: who's going to play QB for him? Is Warner a free agent? If not who out there could sign and do well under a new system? McCown? Or does anyone think Harrington is still the answer? 1300950[/snapback] Tim Couch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chiefjay Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 I don't see what all of the excotement is about: who's going to play QB for him? Is Warner a free agent? If not who out there could sign and do well under a new system? McCown? Or does anyone think Harrington is still the answer? 1300950[/snapback] I don't know the answer to this question but my thought is that he would definately look at a FA or even a trade to get a guy he wants and I believe that a FA QB or someone looking to be traded would love to come to Detroit and work under Martz in a controlled environment (Ford Field) with what potentially could be some nice skill players. Potential being the key word there of course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swiss Cheezhead Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 Wow. Think about this: of all the names who might end up being the Lions QB next year (Harrington, Warner, Rivers, Pennington, etc.), don't you think ANY of them will automatically become a top-5 fantasy QB in this year's drafts? Here's my QB rankings off the top of my head... 1. Manning 2. Palmer 3. Brady 4. McNabb 5. .....? Bulger? T. Green? Hasselbeck? DETROIT QB? Interesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peteteacher2001 Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 Who was Harringtons backup when Garcia went down? If I recall he is a big athletic kid. Being a Rams fan this is a good thing for Detroit. Martz in the booth is lethal. Martz on the sideline is stupidity. He needs to see the whole field in front of him. People in St. Louis have been saying this for years. He is not a sideline coach. Either way, he'll find some unknown kid to buy into his philosophy and turn them into a great QB for a couple of years till his 5-7 step drop system gets the poor boy gets hurt ie Warner's thumb and Bulgers shoulder. That's the only thing about Martz's offense, it gets Qb's hurt after a couple of years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cre8tiff Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 Warner will never play for Martz again. Martz basically ran him out of town. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Swerski Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 with what potentially could be some nice skill players. Potential being the key word there of course. 1300971[/snapback] I think that Pollard and Roy Williams are already established skill players. The others are question marks. And I agree that DET would be a good fit for a veteran QB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vet Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 As someone else pointed out in this forum a while back - Is the Lions' rolodex stuck on "M", or what? Marinelli, Mariucci, Morningweg, Martz, Millen....huh!? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cre8tiff Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 Apparently that as far as the owners got doing the ABC's in kindergarten. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pope Flick Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 Call me crazy, but I like McCown to fit in well here. He's pretty accurate, can scramble and the kid's a gamer. Just ask any Vikings fan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainHook Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 I think Martz is a better OC than coach. I think it is a very good move. If he can't get the offensive talent on that team to perform, it's time to give up. I am excited for Detroit's fantasy potential again. Unfortunately, I was last year too. :doah: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chiefjay Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 I think that Pollard and Roy Williams are already established skill players. The others are question marks. And I agree that DET would be a good fit for a veteran QB. 1301251[/snapback] Those were the two I was thinking of and I still would throw Jones into the mix although I doubt many would at this point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chiefjay Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 Just reported on local radio that Martz and Detroit could not come to an agreement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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