Chief Posted February 4, 2006 Share Posted February 4, 2006 NFL.com wire reports DETROIT (Feb. 4, 2006) -- Emmitt Smith believes Hall of Fame voters are holding Michael Irvin's personal problems against him. And he's incensed by it. Smith, the NFL's career rushing leader and eligible for the Hall in four more years, campaigned vigorously for his former Dallas Cowboys teammate. Irvin is on the ballot for the second time, and election results will be announced Feb. 5. Smith senses the wide receiver didn't get in last year because of Irvin's off-field troubles. "But you're going to try to bring this personal side of it?" Smith said. "This is what he's done off the field -- what has that got to do with what he's done on the football field?" Pounding his finger on a table and emphasizing every single word, Smith made his point. "This is the Pro Football Hall of Fame, not the Life Hall of Fame. His stats are what they are. They are not going to change." "There should be a set criteria in terms of understanding ... what it takes to get to the Pro Football Hall of Fame. If you're an athlete and you've got credentials like Michael Irvin -- Pro Bowls, records, Super Bowls, all those things -- if you stack up against that, whoever the panel is, somebody needs to sign off on it." http://www.nfl.com/news/story/9207778 Alot of people were held to thier conduct, and I'm not so sure it's not wrong. Can see this at Canton, "Look son, theres the crack head, maybe one day you can be like him." Should the integrety of the Hall Of Fame be upheld and to a higher standard? I think so. Just my 2 cents. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
broncosn05 Posted February 4, 2006 Share Posted February 4, 2006 He should go into the HOF! Along with Madden and Kuch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retrograde assault Posted February 4, 2006 Share Posted February 4, 2006 More concerned with Rayfield Wright, he needs to get in this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duchess Jack Posted February 4, 2006 Share Posted February 4, 2006 (edited) Shouldn't his personal issues be a deciding factor? Edited February 4, 2006 by Duchess Jack Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoJoTheWebToedBoy Posted February 4, 2006 Share Posted February 4, 2006 (edited) I have a real problem with that. Let's start this with off the field. Irving's actions should of put him in prison. But on the field, he was good, damm good and his numbers/accomplishments put him in the HOF. So you want to judge his entrance by his entire life? Go ahead, but what's good for the Goose is good for the gander. 1. You have to wait at least 30 years before you are eligible. That way the entire life can be reviewed. Damm there goes Brett Farve (Drug Addict), Remove Warren Moon (Wife Beater) 2. All people with a shady reputation have to be removed, That should clear out some space (there goes the Raider Wing) 3. OJ Simpson, enough said. "Look son, theres the double murderer, maybe one day you can be like him." It's about what you did on the field. Edited February 4, 2006 by JoJoTheWebToedBoy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voltaire Posted February 4, 2006 Share Posted February 4, 2006 (edited) I wouldn't put him in on the first ballot he deserves to wait for a good long time if he ever makes it. BTW how many times has Art Monk been passed over? If/when he finally gets in, triple the time before we should begun to consider/forgive Irvin. Edited February 4, 2006 by Voltaire Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Holliday Posted February 4, 2006 Share Posted February 4, 2006 I wouldn't put him in on the first ballot he deserves to wait for a good long time if he ever makes it. BTW how many times has Art Monk been passed over? If/when he finally gets in, triple the time before we should begun to consider/forgive Irvin. 1305202[/snapback] Yeah it is sad when a average WR like Lynn Swann is in and great WR's like Monk and Irvin are left off year after year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Vatican Hitsquad Posted February 5, 2006 Share Posted February 5, 2006 Yeah it is sad when a average WR like Lynn Swann is in and great WR's like Monk and Irvin are left off year after year. 1305211[/snapback] I agree, but I'll take it a step farther when HoFers like Emmitt are whining about the exclusion of Irvin and the only time you here mention of Monk's exclusion is when it's prefaced with "It's a fliping crime that he's not in". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Posted February 5, 2006 Share Posted February 5, 2006 Maybe Irvin's cheating on and off the field kept him out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swiss Cheezhead Posted February 5, 2006 Share Posted February 5, 2006 One of the worst displays of spelling in a thread title EVER. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azazello1313 Posted February 5, 2006 Share Posted February 5, 2006 irvin is borderline HOF material based on what he did on the field. art monk isnt in the HOF, why the f*ck should irvin be? has very little to do with his off-the-field nonsense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
budlitebrad Posted February 5, 2006 Share Posted February 5, 2006 No one who dresses like that should be allowed in the HOF. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Posted February 5, 2006 Author Share Posted February 5, 2006 One of the worst displays of spelling in a thread title EVER. 1305494[/snapback] Sue me, was in a hurry, Aikman, feel better now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big John Posted February 5, 2006 Share Posted February 5, 2006 Sue me, was in a hurry, Aikman, feel better now? 1305567[/snapback] Title is fixed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
no one Posted February 5, 2006 Share Posted February 5, 2006 Barry could not hold Emmitts jock. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azazello1313 Posted February 5, 2006 Share Posted February 5, 2006 Title is fixed. 1305576[/snapback] Irving? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big John Posted February 5, 2006 Share Posted February 5, 2006 Irving? 1305670[/snapback] Partially fixed :doah: Just the part he referred to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatman Posted February 5, 2006 Share Posted February 5, 2006 irvin is borderline HOF material based on what he did on the field. art monk isnt in the HOF, why the f*ck should irvin be? has very little to do with his off-the-field nonsense. 1305498[/snapback] Absolutely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yukon Cornelius Posted February 5, 2006 Share Posted February 5, 2006 I wouldn't put him in on the first ballot he deserves to wait for a good long time if he ever makes it. BTW how many times has Art Monk been passed over? If/when he finally gets in, triple the time before we should begun to consider/forgive Irvin. 1305202[/snapback] wow blast from the past Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yukon Cornelius Posted February 5, 2006 Share Posted February 5, 2006 One of the worst displays of spelling in a thread title EVER. 1305494[/snapback] good thing u are here 2 kep us in line........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gdawg Posted February 5, 2006 Share Posted February 5, 2006 I have a real problem with that. Let's start this with off the field. Irving's actions should of put him in prison. But on the field, he was good, damm good and his numbers/accomplishments put him in the HOF. So you want to judge his entrance by his entire life? Go ahead, but what's good for the Goose is good for the gander. 1. You have to wait at least 30 years before you are eligible. That way the entire life can be reviewed. Damm there goes Brett Farve (Drug Addict), Remove Warren Moon (Wife Beater) 2. All people with a shady reputation have to be removed, That should clear out some space (there goes the Raider Wing) 3. OJ Simpson, enough said. "Look son, theres the double murderer, maybe one day you can be like him." It's about what you did on the field. 1304946[/snapback] I detest Irvin, but he does belong in the HOF. He will make it next year. Art Monk also deserves the nod. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Front Row Posted February 5, 2006 Share Posted February 5, 2006 Shouldn't his personal issues be a deciding factor? I agree . I think he'll get in anyway though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yukon Cornelius Posted February 5, 2006 Share Posted February 5, 2006 If he gets in before monk its a joke.... That or he blowing the voting committee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donutrun Jellies Posted February 5, 2006 Share Posted February 5, 2006 If he gets in before monk its a joke.... 1306257[/snapback] Word. Troy and Smith shouldn't be so quick to dismiss Irvin's antics ... I can see letting him in based on starting for three superbowl victors -- but a bit of drug testing certainly would have changed (ended) his career and he's not quite TO if he doesn't play with Troy and ESmith, so I'm just as happy they're letting him rot a bit before letting his rings get him in ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
polksalet Posted February 5, 2006 Share Posted February 5, 2006 More concerned with Rayfield Wright, he needs to get in this year. 1304914[/snapback] The bias toward Dallas does have it limits. I think Aikman will be the last nondeserving cowboy inducted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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