Swampnuts Posted February 11, 2006 Share Posted February 11, 2006 http://www.azcentral.com/sports/cheapseats...o/0206rant.html This is an interesting article that makes a lot of sense. The Cards are going to have a bunch of money to throw around this year. I think the Hawks would pay up to keep Alexander out of Arizona's hands, but Edge could be had for the right price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
major-tom Posted February 11, 2006 Share Posted February 11, 2006 Good read although it sounds like the guy who wrote the article is trying to lobby Bidwell (the owner) as much as he is writing for the readers of the newspaper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Swerski Posted February 11, 2006 Share Posted February 11, 2006 Edge on the Cardinals would kill his fantasy value. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ursa Majoris Posted February 11, 2006 Share Posted February 11, 2006 Edge on the Cardinals would kill his fantasy value. 1319899[/snapback] Are you sure? It's not like opponents could stack eight or nine in the box every time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skylive5 Posted February 11, 2006 Share Posted February 11, 2006 Are you sure? It's not like opponents could stack eight or nine in the box every time. 1319907[/snapback] Agree. With those two WR's, and some help on the o-line, James could put up some really nice numbers. Could be a nice fit. Especially since he would be running against SF, StL, and Seattle, twice each year. However... whatever happened to him wanting to play in FL? Would seem to me that if he doesn't re-up with Indy he would sign with Mia or someone close. Did all that go by the wayside and he no longer cares about playing there? And of course, according to Huddlers, he is way too old to be getting a long term contract. So wouldn't that limit teams that would take him? Think he stays in Indy. He will get 7mil a year and be happy with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainHook Posted February 11, 2006 Share Posted February 11, 2006 (edited) Bidwell is to cheap. I doubt it happens. The writer thinks Edge would consider a three or four year deal. I doubt that too. Edge will want a minimum of 5 years, I would guess. Edited February 11, 2006 by CaptainHook Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ursa Majoris Posted February 11, 2006 Share Posted February 11, 2006 Bidwell is to cheap. I doubt it happens. 1319988[/snapback] Pretty good way to contribute to filling the new stadium, which would make the net outlay less. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainHook Posted February 11, 2006 Share Posted February 11, 2006 However... whatever happened to him wanting to play in FL? Would seem to me that if he doesn't re-up with Indy he would sign with Mia or someone close. Did all that go by the wayside and he no longer cares about playing there? 1319926[/snapback] Edge has never said he wants to play for a Florida team. He lives in Miami and is from Immokalee (sp?) and there have always been rumors, mostly by LeBetard, that he wanted to play for the Dolphins. Edge will go where the money is. This is his last big contract. Think he stays in Indy. He will get 7mil a year and be happy with it. 1319926[/snapback] I highly doubt it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainHook Posted February 11, 2006 Share Posted February 11, 2006 Pretty good way to contribute to filling the new stadium, which would make the net outlay less. 1319999[/snapback] since when has he been concerned with filling a stadium? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vet Posted February 11, 2006 Share Posted February 11, 2006 Arizona is where football careers go to die. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainHook Posted February 11, 2006 Share Posted February 11, 2006 Arizona is where football careers go to die. 1320013[/snapback] I think he spent the money on Boldin extension to "show" he was serious about building a "winner" heading into the new stadium. New stadiums attract fans, no matter how crappy the team is. He hasn't changed. He's still cheap. I'd be floored if he ponied up for SA or Edge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ursa Majoris Posted February 11, 2006 Share Posted February 11, 2006 since when has he been concerned with filling a stadium? 1320008[/snapback] I agree he's a cheap bassturd, or at least has been to date, but I'm saying that the outlay for Edge could be equalled by the increased season ticket, gameday ticket and associated concession sales in the new stadium over the course of a season. Thus the outlay could be an investment with a clear return. Certainly a part of the cost would be returned because AZ with Edge are going to put more butts on seats than they otherwise would. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainHook Posted February 11, 2006 Share Posted February 11, 2006 I agree he's a cheap bassturd, or at least has been to date, but I'm saying that the outlay for Edge could be equalled by the increased season ticket, gameday ticket and associated concession sales in the new stadium over the course of a season. Thus the outlay could be an investment with a clear return. Certainly a part of the cost would be returned because AZ with Edge are going to put more butts on seats than they otherwise would. 1320048[/snapback] Yeah, I see what you are saying, but I don't think he will see it that way. He'll see the fact Edge wants a 5 or 6 year deal with a $15 millions signing bonus, and not even bother. That's a lot of soda. Plus, like I said, with a new stadium, I think the people come anyway. Until they see it's the same crappy team in a new building. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Swerski Posted February 11, 2006 Share Posted February 11, 2006 (edited) Are you sure? It's not like opponents could stack eight or nine in the box every time. 1319907[/snapback] Arizona was dead-last in most rushing categories last season. That includes TOTALS of 1138 yds (3.16 avg) and 2 TDs. Edge is obviously a more talented back than Shipp and Arrington, but those two aren't THAT bad. If Edge does go to ARI (which I think is unlikely) and major changes aren't made to that line, his fantasy value will significantly decrease. Edited February 11, 2006 by Bill Swerski Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skylive5 Posted February 11, 2006 Share Posted February 11, 2006 That's a lot of soda. 1320057[/snapback] Or two beers and a small popcorn (no butter) in Seattle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lions suck Posted February 11, 2006 Share Posted February 11, 2006 Arizona is where football careers go to die. 1320013[/snapback] Detroit is where careers die! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainHook Posted February 11, 2006 Share Posted February 11, 2006 Arizona was dead-last in most rushing categories last season. That includes TOTALS of 1138 yds (3.16 avg) and 2 TDs. Edge is obviously a more talented back than Shipp and Arrington, but those two aren't THAT bad. If Edge does go to ARI (which I think is unlikely) and major changes aren't made to that line, his fantasy value will significantly decrease. 1320100[/snapback] I tend to agree. Arizona's offensive line is piss poor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PackerFanX Posted February 11, 2006 Share Posted February 11, 2006 The Bidwells are too cheap to pay the kind of money it would take to get Edge out here in AZ. The Bidwells will guarantee you 2008 Superbowl tickets at face value "while supplies last" if you purchase club level season tickets for 5 years when the new stadium opens next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avernus Posted February 12, 2006 Share Posted February 12, 2006 Imagine the field day a QB would have with all this at his disposal...2 all pro- WR's and an all-pro RB...then if they signed Hutchinson for the OL...this team could possibly steal the division in 2 years....maybe 1.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoJoTheWebToedBoy Posted February 12, 2006 Share Posted February 12, 2006 However... whatever happened to him wanting to play in FL? Would seem to me that if he doesn't re-up with Indy he would sign with Mia or someone close. Did all that go by the wayside and he no longer cares about playing there? 1319926[/snapback] Arizona is the new Florida...... Arizona is where football careers go to die. 1320013[/snapback] Your damm skippy..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swampnuts Posted February 12, 2006 Author Share Posted February 12, 2006 Imagine the field day a QB would have with all this at his disposal...2 all pro- WR's and an all-pro RB...then if they signed Hutchinson for the OL...this team could possibly steal the division in 2 years....maybe 1.. 1320370[/snapback] No chance in hell that Seattle lets Hutch go to a division rival. They'll franchise him first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaP'N GRuNGe Posted February 12, 2006 Share Posted February 12, 2006 I really want Edge in Minnesota. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robash Posted February 12, 2006 Share Posted February 12, 2006 Arizona was dead-last in most rushing categories last season. That includes TOTALS of 1138 yds (3.16 avg) and 2 TDs. Edge is obviously a more talented back than Shipp and Arrington, but those two aren't THAT bad. If Edge does go to ARI (which I think is unlikely) and major changes aren't made to that line, his fantasy value will significantly decrease. 1320100[/snapback] im not sure...look what tiki has done the past 3 years with a horrible o-line Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avernus Posted February 12, 2006 Share Posted February 12, 2006 (edited) No chance in hell that Seattle lets Hutch go to a division rival. They'll franchise him first. 1320388[/snapback] do they really want to franchise an offensive lineman? Edited February 12, 2006 by Avernus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PantherDave Posted February 12, 2006 Share Posted February 12, 2006 Edge wants to play for a contender, and he's the Panther's missing puzzle peice, so look for Big Cat to make it happen and bring Edge into the Carolina Family. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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