Guest Sores Posted February 23, 2006 Share Posted February 23, 2006 Brian Calhoun, running back, Wisconsin Dick Corrick, an NFL scout for 30 years, reports on Brian Calhoun, a 5-foot-10, 194-pound running back from Wisconsin who is coming out as a junior: "He has very good production. He catches the ball well, but he dropped a fly route in the Capital One Bowl when he peaked (sic) at the safety. He runs outside well. He has an explosive burst and speed. He's not real big, but he was durable. He has some shake and moves. He'll run low inside, but he's not a pile mover. He uses his blockers well. He has patience. He can be a game-changer. But his size could be a concern. He's a very productive, good player. You've got to like the guy. If Warrick Dunn was a first-round pick, I guess this guy could be one. I liked Calhoun better than (Laurence) Maroney." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Sores Posted February 23, 2006 Share Posted February 23, 2006 The two most interesting things here are the comparison to Maroney...and the fact that I had to edit for spelling. I love Calhoun...if the Pack goes D in the first, I would be happy if they took him in the 2nd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goopster24 Posted February 23, 2006 Share Posted February 23, 2006 I liked Calhoun better than (Laurence) Maroney. 1337619[/snapback] I would agree with this. Calhoun also just seems like a better person in general, which should count for a little. Both RB's are from schools with a history of having heaving running offenses. though. Could be a possible concern. System backs? Not exactly sure yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swiss Cheezhead Posted February 23, 2006 Share Posted February 23, 2006 No thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voltaire Posted February 23, 2006 Share Posted February 23, 2006 Thanks for focusing on this guy. I don't know squat about him but probably should pay some attention since we're ... er ... well for lack of a better word- we're engaged. He's consensus 'best of the rest' of the RBs and I have the 8th pick in a dynasty league that starts 2 QBs. If Calhoun could land a prime RB gig, there'd be eight rookies on the top shelf instead of seven and it would make me feel alot better about taking whoever's left over with that pick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Posted February 23, 2006 Share Posted February 23, 2006 (edited) The two most interesting things here are the comparison to Maroney...and the fact that I had to edit for spelling. I love Calhoun...if the Pack goes D in the first, I would be happy if they took him in the 2nd. 1337623[/snapback] I've been waiting for this one. I'd be happy with Mario first and Calhoun in the second. He may not last until the 3rd round. Addai or Michael Bush? How do you guys evauate them? Edited February 23, 2006 by Randall Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatman Posted February 23, 2006 Share Posted February 23, 2006 The two most interesting things here are the comparison to Maroney...and the fact that I had to edit for spelling. I love Calhoun...if the Pack goes D in the first, I would be happy if they took him in the 2nd. 1337623[/snapback] I got to watch BC in person three times this season, as well as all of the other games on TV. Compact runner who is stronger than he looks (but I would agree that he won't move the pile). Very shifty and moves his hips well. Seems to have natural hands catching the ball. He did start to slow down toward the end of the season, which doesn't bode well for his first year or two in the NFL playing 16 games. Had a lot of carries, though (almost 350). One small note - I never saw him celebrate a TD other than throwing the ball to the ref. Seems like a really good guy. If he's sitting at the top of the second round I hope the Pack takes him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Posted February 23, 2006 Share Posted February 23, 2006 I got to watch BC in person three times this season, as well as all of the other games on TV. Compact runner who is stronger than he looks (but I would agree that he won't move the pile). Very shifty and moves his hips well. Seems to have natural hands catching the ball. He did start to slow down toward the end of the season, which doesn't bode well for his first year or two in the NFL playing 16 games. Had a lot of carries, though (almost 350). One small note - I never saw him celebrate a TD other than throwing the ball to the ref. Seems like a really good guy. If he's sitting at the top of the second round I hope the Pack takes him. 1338223[/snapback] He showed some explosion too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatman Posted February 23, 2006 Share Posted February 23, 2006 (edited) He showed some explosion too. 1338238[/snapback] Yeah, he can break them off. Also gets pretty good separation when running routes. Edited February 23, 2006 by Fatman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azazello1313 Posted February 23, 2006 Share Posted February 23, 2006 i watched him quite a bit when he was at colorado (before transferring). he's definitely got some skills, but his size would seem certain to keep him out of the first round. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swiss Cheezhead Posted February 23, 2006 Share Posted February 23, 2006 I've been waiting for this one. I'd be happy with Mario first and Calhoun in the second. He may not last until the 3rd round. Addai or Michael Bush? How do you guys evauate them? 1338174[/snapback] Calhoun will never be more than a 3rd-down RB in the NFL. He's too small AND he runs too upright -- recipe for injuries. Plus, he's not fast enough to get around the corner on NFL defenders. Plus, I seem to remember him having some fumbling problems. Plus, he can't block. Plus, he doesn't have very good running agility (which eliminates comparisons to Warrick Dunn). FWIW, I have no idea why Calhoun decided to declare early. If nothing else, he could have added another 10-15 pounds during his senior year. I'd be happy if we landed Joseph Addai in the second round, but I don't think he'll be there. He's just a much more complete RB. However, DeAngelo Williams is still the "class" of the class and he'll be right there for us at #5. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatman Posted February 23, 2006 Share Posted February 23, 2006 Calhoun will never be more than a 3rd-down RB in the NFL. He's too small AND he runs too upright -- recipe for injuries. Plus, he's not fast enough to get around the corner on NFL defenders. Plus, I seem to remember him having some fumbling problems. Plus, he can't block. Plus, he doesn't have very good running agility (which eliminates comparisons to Warrick Dunn). FWIW, I have no idea why Calhoun decided to declare early. If nothing else, he could have added another 10-15 pounds during his senior year. I'd be happy if we landed Joseph Addai in the second round, but I don't think he'll be there. He's just a much more complete RB. However, DeAngelo Williams is still the "class" of the class and he'll be right there for us at #5. 1338567[/snapback] You and NFL Draft Countdown sound a lot alike... Weaknesses: Does not have the ideal size you look for...Takes a beating due to his running style and slight frame...Is not a great blocker...Fumbles the ball too much...Will he have the speed to get outside against pro defenders?...Only carried the load for two seasons in college...Might not be an every down back at the next level. I'm not as worried about his running style...I think he wore down due to the number of carries more than taking big shots. He seemed to be pretty good at avoiding hits. I would agree that's he's not a great blocker but I don't remember fumbling being a big issue. I'll be very interested to see how he fares. I think he's more than a 3rd down back and I bet an NFL team will draft him that way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swiss Cheezhead Posted February 23, 2006 Share Posted February 23, 2006 You and NFL Draft Countdown sound a lot alike... Weaknesses: Does not have the ideal size you look for...Takes a beating due to his running style and slight frame...Is not a great blocker...Fumbles the ball too much...Will he have the speed to get outside against pro defenders?...Only carried the load for two seasons in college...Might not be an every down back at the next level. 1338831[/snapback] NFL Draft Countdown apparently knows their stuff, at least when it comes to Brian Calhoun. But I don't frequent that site. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riffraff Posted February 23, 2006 Share Posted February 23, 2006 Addai or Michael Bush? How do you guys evauate them? 1338174[/snapback] Side note on M Bush: He is returning to Louisville in 2006. He'll be a senior this year. He probably would have been the #5 prospect behind the "big 4," but might have relegated Maroney to the #5 spot instead. Being in this deep of a RB class meant he might have dropped to the 2nd round. He went back to school and could be a top 3 RB next year (depending upon who comes out early). He's 6' 3" and 240 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Posted February 24, 2006 Share Posted February 24, 2006 Calhoun will never be more than a 3rd-down RB in the NFL. He's too small AND he runs too upright 1338567[/snapback] He doesn't do that when he runs inside. We'll see, but I hope they don't take a RB at 5 unless Bush is there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chavez Posted February 24, 2006 Share Posted February 24, 2006 IMO Brian Calhoun is the best back Alvarez has had - granted, his size and style are not that of a pile-mover, but his very slippery between the tackles and is a factor in the passing game; I'm not a scout, but he certainly seemed to have enough speed - I'd lay odds that he plays faster than he times. I don't think 194 lbs is big by any means, but his size and skill set appear fairly similar to that of Thurman Thomas, who had an OK NFL career. As to his size, a Milwaukee area RB who was being recruited by Wisconsin and was listed at 5'9" said in the paper that he was taller than Calhoun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goopster24 Posted February 24, 2006 Share Posted February 24, 2006 IMO Brian Calhoun is the best back Alvarez has had - granted, his size and style are not that of a pile-mover, but his very slippery between the tackles and is a factor in the passing game; I'm not a scout, but he certainly seemed to have enough speed - I'd lay odds that he plays faster than he times. I don't think 194 lbs is big by any means, but his size and skill set appear fairly similar to that of Thurman Thomas, who had an OK NFL career. As to his size, a Milwaukee area RB who was being recruited by Wisconsin and was listed at 5'9" said in the paper that he was taller than Calhoun. 1339739[/snapback] Good info here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Sores Posted February 24, 2006 Share Posted February 24, 2006 (edited) I still say I would take Calhoun in the second if he is there....I don't understand anyone calling him slow...or not fast. He has run a 4.38-4.42 consistently. He is currently 8 lbs lighter than Bush. He carried the ball as much or more than any top back on the board and was durable as he11. Is he a banger...no. Can he split out and create seperation in the passing game?....yes. He has great character. Draft him in the 2nd! SCOUT.COM report Calhoun is listed at 5-foot-10, 194 pounds on UW’s official roster, but outgoing Badger running backs coach Brian White said in August that Calhoun actually weighed 203 pounds. Koch reiterated that Monday. “He thinks his stock is only going to rise in the combines because he played the bowl game at 206 (pounds),” Koch said. “People don’t realize that but he was 206 on the nose for the bowl game. He plans to be 208 for the combines. He said, ‘I was never 194, I don’t know why they listed me at that.’” If Calhoun indeed weighs in at 208 pounds at the NFL Combine late next month, and runs the sub-4.4-second 40-yard dash he is capable of, it will certainly boost his stock. Last spring he was part of the UW track team’s Big Ten Champion 400-meter relay team. Calhoun came to Wisconsin as a highly regarded pass receiver. In fact, a major reason why he transferred from Colorado is that former Buffalo coach Gary Barnett wanted to turn him into a wide receiver. Calhoun’s receiving skills should translate nicely to the NFL. His 53 pass receptions—which included an incredible 11-reception game against Northwestern—demonstrated an ability unique in a college running back. Calhoun this season became only the second player in NCAA history to rush for more than 1,500 yards and catch passes for more than 500 yards. Edited February 24, 2006 by Sores Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goopster24 Posted February 24, 2006 Share Posted February 24, 2006 There is no doubt in mind he is a 2nd rounder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ziachild007 Posted February 24, 2006 Share Posted February 24, 2006 You and NFL Draft Countdown sound a lot alike... Weaknesses: Fumbles the ball too much... 1338831[/snapback] I found this odd, since in his interview with NFL Draft Countdown, he said he only had one fumble in over 400 carries. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatman Posted February 24, 2006 Share Posted February 24, 2006 I found this odd, since in his interview with NFL Draft Countdown, he said he only had one fumble in over 400 carries. 1340328[/snapback] Like I said above, I don't remember fumbling being a big issue for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatman Posted February 24, 2006 Share Posted February 24, 2006 NFL Draft Countdown apparently knows their stuff, at least when it comes to Brian Calhoun. But I don't frequent that site. 1338928[/snapback] Well I hope you're both wrong. Also, when do you remember him fumbling a lot? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Posted February 24, 2006 Share Posted February 24, 2006 Well I hope you're both wrong. Also, when do you remember him fumbling a lot? 1340337[/snapback] On the Clock Draft says this- Brian Calhoun is an explosive player who emerged as one of the top running backs in the nation as a junior. He has excellent vision and the speed to get outside and turn the corner. He is an elusive open field runner who will make defenders miss and is a threat to take it the distance every time he touches the football. He runs well between the tackles but is by no means a power runner and he will not break many tackles. He possesses soft hands and is a very good receiver out of the backfield. He is very good at protecting the football and is credited with 0 fumbles in his career (543 attempts). Although he lacks ideal size and strength for a featured back in the NFL, Calhoun has proven he can carry the load and stay healthy over the course of a long season. In 13 games as a junior, Calhoun averaged 27 carries per game including a career high 43 carries against Bowling Green. He carried the ball a total of 348 times as a junior. Only two NFL running backs, Shawn Alexander (370) and Tiki Barber (357) carried the ball more times in the 16 game 2005 NFL regular season. Brian Calhoun is a versatile player who can run, catch and return kicks. If he can improve his size and strength as well as his ability to pickup the blitz, he will be the total package at the professional level. He is one of the top running backs in the draft and should be selected in the late first or early second round in the 2006 NFL draft. They compare him to Westbrook. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chavez Posted February 25, 2006 Share Posted February 25, 2006 There is no doubt in mind he is a 2nd rounder. 1340062[/snapback] In a less RB-heavy draft, I bet plenty of teams would be happy to get him in the late 1st. Timing in the NFL is akin to location in real estate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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