olympia0731 Posted March 3, 2006 Share Posted March 3, 2006 Hey guys, this is my first post at the football forum. I AM SURE MANY OF YOU KNOW/use this here are the steps of VBD 1: Project stats for players. 2: Figure out how many point totals each player will get using your projected stats. 3: Find the average point totals at each position. 4: For each player subtract their point total from the average point total at their position. 5: Make your ranking sheet!!!!!!!!!!! . Let's take a hypothetical situation. Team one Team 2: Qb: 15 points qb: 17 rb: 10 points rb: 12 wr: 13 points wr: 14 te: 9 points te: 2 Who is the most valuable player in this situation? It is obviously the Te on team one. WHY? It is because he outscores the oppisite teams player at his position, more than any other player. This is why VBD is great. It ranks your players by how much they outscore other players at thier position. Is this the best way to rank players? do alot of you guys use this? thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage Beatings Posted March 3, 2006 Share Posted March 3, 2006 I had VBD once... I had to use a special comb to get rid of it. OK, what does VBD stand for? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mggoilers Posted March 3, 2006 Share Posted March 3, 2006 (edited) Value Based Draft? It all depends on the guys in your draft and type of draft. redraft vs. keeper/Dynasty I always go Best player available, and sort it out later. There are some pretty good tools, I used FFToday compiler last year for my keeper league and VBD was one of the options. Does the Huddle have a keeper league tool. Good luck Edited March 3, 2006 by mggoilers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olympia0731 Posted March 3, 2006 Author Share Posted March 3, 2006 Yup, value based draft. I recomend everyone to try this, on a free yahoo. It works amazingly well!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Irish Doggy Posted March 3, 2006 Share Posted March 3, 2006 Yup, value based draft. I recomend everyone to try this, on a free yahoo. 1351399[/snapback] Ok, see now, you went too far. Your cover is blown. You're someone's alias on a trip. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olympia0731 Posted March 3, 2006 Author Share Posted March 3, 2006 What r u implying, I am simply suggesting for people to try this ranking systekm out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puddy Posted March 4, 2006 Share Posted March 4, 2006 Does the Huddle have a keeper league tool. 1351382[/snapback] Darin3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puddy Posted March 4, 2006 Share Posted March 4, 2006 In all seriosity, VBD is one of the tools I use extensively preparing for my drafts. First read about it several years ago in FF Index in an article by David Dodds I believe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HowboutthemCowboys Posted March 4, 2006 Share Posted March 4, 2006 Darin3 1351457[/snapback] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loaf Posted March 4, 2006 Share Posted March 4, 2006 (edited) each year there's one guy in my local that uses VBD. He won in '02, hasn't since. His VBD totals after the Draft last year had him with the "best team"(according to his "findings"). He made the Playoffs as the 5th (out of 6) seed. He was ousted the first week of the Playoffs. It's all a crapshoot...you get lucky with your late round picks and you're golden. You don't and you better realise it early to make some trades to get you to where you aspire to be... Edited March 4, 2006 by loaf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azazello1313 Posted March 4, 2006 Share Posted March 4, 2006 VBD is useful as a means of getting a feel for the relative value of different positions in different scoring systems and league configurations. you get some good, objective, empirical data that way -- gives you a good idea whether you're better off taking your 6th ranked TE or your 25th ranked WR in the 7th round, and that can be helpful. but like any formula for FF prediction, it's only as good as the hunches and guesses you're basing your projections on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clubfoothead Posted March 4, 2006 Share Posted March 4, 2006 here are the steps of VBD 1: Project stats for players. 1351377[/snapback] There's the critical flaw in VBDing, IMHO. Not only do you have to be right about about your projection but then dude has to stay healthy for 12 or 13 games minimum. And it takes a lot of work and time. 12 teams 12 rounds and all of a sudden you have to project the stats for 144 players, minimum. I'm too ADD to try and project the stas for Ced Wilson vs. R. Caldwell with any accuracy. If you've got the time and are a distant relative of Nostradamus then maybe. VBDing has it's role but with the popularity of the hobby, it is almost useless in the first two rounds. You should just give money away to your local humaine society if you don't have at least 1 RB after 2 rounds in a re-draft. I use a combination of gut feeling and VBDing starting in round 3. Of course that has never worked for me, either. I prefer to rank players in tiers that includes a VB formula buy tiers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keggerz Posted March 4, 2006 Share Posted March 4, 2006 I use VBPTDing!!! Value Based Positional Tier Drafting its all about scarcity Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darin3 Posted March 4, 2006 Share Posted March 4, 2006 Darin3 1351457[/snapback] 1351619[/snapback] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ABearWithFurniture Posted March 4, 2006 Share Posted March 4, 2006 Yup, value based draft. I recomend everyone to try this, on a free yahoo. It works amazingly well!!!!!! 1351399[/snapback] For one of his first 3 posts, I'd have to say that's one of the funniest posts I've ever seen on this board... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Dick Posted March 4, 2006 Share Posted March 4, 2006 Could you please compile a spreadsheet that describes this type of drafting? And how it really works? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keggerz Posted March 4, 2006 Share Posted March 4, 2006 Could you please compile a spreadsheet that describes this type of drafting? And how it really works? 1351835[/snapback] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Furd Posted March 4, 2006 Share Posted March 4, 2006 Your ideas are intriguing to me and I wish to subscribe to your newsletter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keggerz Posted March 4, 2006 Share Posted March 4, 2006 Your ideas are intriguing to me and I wish to subscribe to your newsletter. 1351880[/snapback] early bird gets the worm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muck Posted March 4, 2006 Share Posted March 4, 2006 I hear the proprietors of this fine website are looking for forward thinking talent like yourself. Maybe you can get a job here writing articles about complex stuff like this. Dunno ... good luck! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheezhed Posted March 4, 2006 Share Posted March 4, 2006 early bird gets the worm 1351941[/snapback] indeed.........but it's the early worm that gets EATEN BY THE BIRD!!!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swiss Cheezhead Posted March 5, 2006 Share Posted March 5, 2006 A few years ago, I visited a website that touted VBD. It had an article explaining why it might be a good idea to select Tony Gonzalez first overall. I haven't read about VBD since. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swiss Cheezhead Posted March 5, 2006 Share Posted March 5, 2006 I use VBPTDing!!!Value Based Positional Tier Drafting its all about scarcity 1351712[/snapback] Good info here. I always knew you were a smart one, kegz! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtomicCEO Posted March 5, 2006 Share Posted March 5, 2006 I use VBPTDing!!!Value Based Positional Tier Drafting its all about scarcity 1351712[/snapback] I use a modified system that also takes into account projected draft priorities of other drafters. No sense taking "the best guy available" if he's still going to be there next round anyway. VBPTDMPDP m2.011e beta Value Based Positional Tier Drafting Modified for Projected Draft Priorities (mark 2 build no. 11e) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt. Ryan Posted March 5, 2006 Share Posted March 5, 2006 Draft RB early, WRs next, TE if its a good value, wait on QBs to round 7 or 8 at the earliest, K, and Def very late in O only leagues. IDP Leagues, draft RBs early, then best player available, wait on QBs till round 8 at the earliest, then back to best player available, DBs till round 15 at the earliest, and Ks last. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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