Guest Sores Posted March 7, 2006 Share Posted March 7, 2006 Jay Cutler, quarterback, Vanderbilt John Lombardi, a former NFL scout and grandson of Packers legend Vince Lombardi, reports on Jay Cutler, a 6-foot-3, 226-pound quarterback from Vanderbilt: "A four year starter for the Commodores, he almost declared for the draft last year. Adequate size and speed. Better than average athlete, he can move in the pocket, buy some time and will run when necessary. Smart kid who has all the intangibles. A tough, hard working kid who has earned the respect of his teammates. Better than average arm strength, he can make most of the throws required of him at the next level. Can throw on the run. Accuracy and touch have improved over the years and he will keep developing. Does more at Vanderbilt with less than Vince Young and Matt Leinart do in their programs. He is the major reason the team was competitive. Apparently had a great week of practice at the Senior Bowl and has vaulted to the top of the first round in some scout's eyes. Quarterbacks are hard to find and he will get a chance somewhere. Would benefit if he is not counted on to be the man right away. Some folks compare his personality to Brett Favre: Carefree, fun loving and a little rash. Like Favre, he will get caught up in the game and lose rhythm and get off his game. Balls will sail and he will press. Vandy would be in a game against a better opponent and find themselves down by 10 points with the ball. Jay would try and do it all himself and next thing you have is a turnover - game over. He struggled in the actual Senior Bowl game. Early word is he bench pressed 225 pounds 28 times which is pretty good for a quarterback. He has a swagger, that is for sure." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Sores Posted March 7, 2006 Share Posted March 7, 2006 What isn't mentioned here is the fact that he was a loser in college. Which is to say, not a winner. Favre won a lot of big games in College and elevated his team. I am not sold on Cutler, but could be wrong..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whiskey Pimp Posted March 7, 2006 Share Posted March 7, 2006 What isn't mentioned here is the fact that he was a loser in college. Which is to say, not a winner. 1356210[/snapback] Peyton???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatman Posted March 7, 2006 Share Posted March 7, 2006 People are drinking the Kool-Aid, for sure. He'll be one of the more interesting stories on draft day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rovers Posted March 7, 2006 Share Posted March 7, 2006 What isn't mentioned here is the fact that he was a loser in college. Which is to say, not a winner. Favre won a lot of big games in College and elevated his team. I am not sold on Cutler, but could be wrong..... 1356210[/snapback] Vanderbuilt has been the doormat of the SEC for decades. Cutler made them competitive, with very little talent around him. How many players from Texas and USC were invited to the combine? That doesn't include the undergrads, like White and Bush..... between those two programs there were what, 13 or so players? How many from Vandy went? ONE.... Cutler. You don't draft the team, you draft the player. Who thinks Vandy would have had a winning record with either Leinart or Young as the QB? The reason Cutler went to Vandy was because they let him come in as a QB.... other programs, like Perdue, wanted him to be a safety. So, if he wanted to be a QB, he had no choice but to go to a weak program. Now, he sucks because he played for a weak program. Makes sense to me....not. Like MOST rookie QB's, he'd be much better off carrying the clipboard for a year, while they get him to fix his mechanics and he learns how to read defenses in the NFL. After senior bowl week, Fisher said he was smart and coachable, and was able to make the corrections the coaches asked him to make. Any first round pick can bust, and the percentage for 1st round QB's is barely over 50% for the ones that don't. Cutler has 95% of what most NFL teams look for... strong arm, smart, durable, a bit cocky, coachable and with enough athletisism to be able to buy time in the pocket and tuck and run to make a play when need be. I think of the three QB's this year, he will be the best NFL QB of the lot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swiss Cheezhead Posted March 7, 2006 Share Posted March 7, 2006 What isn't mentioned here is the fact that he was a loser in college. Which is to say, not a winner. Favre won a lot of big games in College and elevated his team. I am not sold on Cutler, but could be wrong..... 1356210[/snapback] Vandy was a loser, not Cutler. They beat Tennessee! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avernus Posted March 7, 2006 Share Posted March 7, 2006 Vandy was a loser, not Cutler. They beat Tennessee! 1356260[/snapback] yuup...it's Vanderbuilt lol... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Sores Posted March 7, 2006 Share Posted March 7, 2006 Vanderbuilt has been the doormat of the SEC for decades. Cutler made them competitive, with very little talent around him. How many players from Texas and USC were invited to the combine? That doesn't include the undergrads, like White and Bush..... between those two programs there were what, 13 or so players? How many from Vandy went? ONE.... Cutler. You don't draft the team, you draft the player. Who thinks Vandy would have had a winning record with either Leinart or Young as the QB? The reason Cutler went to Vandy was because they let him come in as a QB.... other programs, like Perdue, wanted him to be a safety. So, if he wanted to be a QB, he had no choice but to go to a weak program. Now, he sucks because he played for a weak program. Makes sense to me....not. Like MOST rookie QB's, he'd be much better off carrying the clipboard for a year, while they get him to fix his mechanics and he learns how to read defenses in the NFL. After senior bowl week, Fisher said he was smart and coachable, and was able to make the corrections the coaches asked him to make. Any first round pick can bust, and the percentage for 1st round QB's is barely over 50% for the ones that don't. Cutler has 95% of what most NFL teams look for... strong arm, smart, durable, a bit cocky, coachable and with enough athletisism to be able to buy time in the pocket and tuck and run to make a play when need be. I think of the three QB's this year, he will be the best NFL QB of the lot. 1356248[/snapback] I am just pointing out that the Favre comparisons are weak when it comes to what's important...winning. Favre received only one scholarship offer after high school. It was from nearby Southern Miss—which wanted him to play defensive back. Favre wanted to play under center instead and clawed his way up from the seventh string to the backup job and then to the starting position just three games into his freshman year. He took over in the second half against Tulane on September 19, 1987 and led USM to a comeback victory with two touchdown passes. Favre led the Golden Eagles to a big upset of Florida State, then ranked sixth in the nation, September 2, 1989. Favre capped off a six-and-a-half-minute drive with the game-winning touchdown pass with 23 seconds remaining. Favre showed his skills before the NFL. At Southern Mississippi University he set school records for passing, 8,193 yards, attempts, 1,234, completions, 656, percentage, 53% and touchdowns, 55. His 1.57% interception rate was the lowest among the 50 top college passers. He also showed his toughness just as much as he later would in the NFL. Seriously injured in a traffic accident before his senior season, he opened the season and played one month after having a great deal of his intestines removed. Favre led his team to an 8-3 record that season and was the MVP of the All American Bowl. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azazello1313 Posted March 7, 2006 Share Posted March 7, 2006 the last "next favre" was rex grossman. in some respects the jury is still out, but...well let's just say these comparisons are completely ridiculous more often than not. and personally, i DO think vandy would have had a winning record with VY behind center, and maybe with leinart as well. cutler is being ridiculously overhyped IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Sores Posted March 7, 2006 Share Posted March 7, 2006 the last "next favre" was rex grossman. in some respects the jury is still out, but...well let's just say these comparisons are completely ridiculous more often than not. and personally, i DO think vandy would have had a winning record with VY behind center, and maybe with leinart as well. cutler is being ridiculously overhyped IMO. 1356304[/snapback] Actually JP Losman drew those comparisons as well.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azazello1313 Posted March 7, 2006 Share Posted March 7, 2006 Actually JP Losman drew those comparisons as well.... 1356386[/snapback] yeah...so basically any southern kid who has a pretty strong arm and throws into double coverage a lot is "the next favre" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Sores Posted March 8, 2006 Share Posted March 8, 2006 yeah...so basically any southern kid who has a pretty strong arm and throws into double coverage a lot is "the next favre" 1356391[/snapback] (Favre's) 1.57% interception rate was the lowest among the 50 top college passers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rovers Posted March 8, 2006 Share Posted March 8, 2006 Losman is from California.... surfer dude type. All players get these kinds if comparisons.... Young to Vick, Leinart to Brady, Cutler to Farve.... doesn't mean a thing in any case, unless it's used to bash a kid, right? Cutler tends to get the Favre comparison because he tried to do too much at Vandy sometimes, knowing ot was pretty much all on him to make a play, so he tended to take risks and sometimes relied too much on his arm strength to force the ball. That is something Favre does to this day. The comparison is not always a compliment. QB's are more of a crapshoot than any other postition. The rap on Cutler playing for a bad program holds as much water as someone bashing Leinart's untested ability to deal with adversity.... losing, which he is sure to do wherever he goes at the top of the draft. The bottom line is that they both have HUGH adjustments to make in the NFL, although Leinart will most likely be ready to become a starter before Cutler will. As for the opinion that Vandy would have been a winning program with either Young or Leinart at QB makes me wonder if you saw Vandy this year..... unless these two played defense, that opinion also doesn't hold water. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gator Hater Posted March 8, 2006 Share Posted March 8, 2006 Peyton???? 1356212[/snapback] Peyton 39-5 as a starter. Cutler 11-35 as a starter. Where did you go to school? Oh Vandy I presume. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big John Posted March 8, 2006 Share Posted March 8, 2006 Where did you go to school? Oh Vandy I presume. 1356624[/snapback] He is Canadian. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gator Hater Posted March 8, 2006 Share Posted March 8, 2006 That explains it all!! Too much backbacon and probably to much La Blatts with with his Friut loops. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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