kpholmes Posted March 13, 2006 Share Posted March 13, 2006 (edited) John Clayton, of ESPN.com, reports Miami Dolphins head coach Nick Saban is still contemplating a trade with the Minnesota Vikings for QB Daunte Culpepper. The Vikings aren't as adamant about asking for a second-round draft choice that could upgrade to a No. 1, but they want a second-round draft pick. One problem is the Vikings won't let Culpepper have a doctor's visit with the Dolphins, only allowing him to talk on the phone with Miami. In the next 24 hours, the Dolphins quarterback will be either Culpepper or free agent QB Drew Brees (Chargers). also John Clayton, of ESPN.com, reports free agent QB Drew Brees (Chargers) reportedly is seeking a contract that will pay him $10 million per year and he is firm in those demands. The New Orleans Saints are the closest to meeting Brees' demands. The Miami Dolphins aren't offering as much in guarantees as New Orleans, and they seem to have dug in on not doing that with Brees coming off shoulder surgery. These "Within 24 hour" statements are losing their credability however... Lets see how it plays out... Edited March 13, 2006 by DMD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Posted March 13, 2006 Share Posted March 13, 2006 No health exam? What are they hiding? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chargerz Posted March 13, 2006 Share Posted March 13, 2006 (KFFL) John Clayton, of ESPN.com, reports Miami Dolphins head coach Nick Saban is still contemplating a trade with the Minnesota Vikings for QB Daunte Culpepper. The Vikings aren't as adamant about asking for a second-round draft choice that could upgrade to a No. 1, but they want a second-round draft pick. One problem is the Vikings won't let Culpepper have a doctor's visit with the Dolphins, only allowing him to talk on the phone with Miami. In the next 24 hours, the Dolphins quarterback will be either Culpepper or free agent QB Drew Brees (Chargers). also (KFFL) John Clayton, of ESPN.com, reports free agent QB Drew Brees (Chargers) reportedly is seeking a contract that will pay him $10 million per year and he is firm in those demands. The New Orleans Saints are the closest to meeting Brees' demands. The Miami Dolphins aren't offering as much in guarantees as New Orleans, and they seem to have dug in on not doing that with Brees coming off shoulder surgery. These "Within 24 hour" statements are losing their credability however... Lets see how it plays out... 1365792[/snapback] Incredible that he would be firm in demanding $10 million a year when his surgically repaired shoulder is a factor! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kpholmes Posted March 13, 2006 Author Share Posted March 13, 2006 No health exam? What are they hiding? 1365793[/snapback] Exactly. Either the knee problem is much worse than we think, or Vikings are just so mad at Cpep they are only letting him do the bare minimum to get a trade. I think its a bit of both. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Holliday Posted March 13, 2006 Share Posted March 13, 2006 No health exam? What are they hiding? 1365793[/snapback] Dolphins go for this and they are out of their minds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raider.Nation Posted March 13, 2006 Share Posted March 13, 2006 There's only 1 guy in the NFL worth demanding 10 mil a year. And that's Peyton Manning. If Palmer continues, than maybe. But Peyton's the only QB who could make outrageous demands like that. IMHO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Holliday Posted March 13, 2006 Share Posted March 13, 2006 There's only 1 guy in the NFL worth demanding 10 mil a year. And that's Peyton Manning. If Palmer continues, than maybe. But Peyton's the only QB who could make outrageous demands like that. IMHO. 1365800[/snapback] Looks to me like Culpepper is out to end his own career. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raider.Nation Posted March 13, 2006 Share Posted March 13, 2006 Looks to me like Culpepper is out to end his own career. 1365809[/snapback] It's not Cpepp demanding that money, but Brees. I just don't understand how he thinks he can do that? At least Cpepp has been at the level of Peyton for 2 seasons, Brees has never played at that level. He's a great QB, but come on! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Holliday Posted March 13, 2006 Share Posted March 13, 2006 It's not Cpepp demanding that money, but Brees. I just don't understand how he thinks he can do that? At least Cpepp has been at the level of Peyton for 2 seasons, Brees has never played at that level. He's a great QB, but come on! 1365810[/snapback] Wow, then Brees is trying to end his own career. he will never get that much money. what is up with these hurt QB's this year? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Holliday Posted March 13, 2006 Share Posted March 13, 2006 I find it funny how you are not hearing more teams looking at Kitna. he would come as a bargain compared to the money he will be looking for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raider.Nation Posted March 13, 2006 Share Posted March 13, 2006 I find it funny how you are not hearing more teams looking at Kitna. he would come as a bargain compared to the money he will be looking for. 1365815[/snapback] That's what we Raider fans are hoping for. Nobody but us to pick him up. Unless OAK is actively pursuing Cpepp or planning on picking one of the 2 young guns, I would love to see them snag Kitna. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kpholmes Posted March 13, 2006 Author Share Posted March 13, 2006 That's what we Raider fans are hoping for. Nobody but us to pick him up. Unless OAK is actively pursuing Cpepp or planning on picking one of the 2 young guns, I would love to see them snag Kitna. 1365825[/snapback] I would love Kitna too, mainly because we could get him a lot cheaper than these schmucks. Don't get me wrong, having Daunte on the roster would be sweet, but that means less money for defense, and no Raider fan wants that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HutOne Posted March 13, 2006 Share Posted March 13, 2006 Seems like a simple solution. The Fins just should talk to Cpeps doctor to see where the knee is at if they want him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raider.Nation Posted March 13, 2006 Share Posted March 13, 2006 I would love Kitna too, mainly because we could get him a lot cheaper than these schmucks.Don't get me wrong, having Daunte on the roster would be sweet, but that means less money for defense, and no Raider fan wants that. 1365833[/snapback] This could actually be the first time you and I agree on the Raider QB sitch. Back and forth with the Collins thing, but on the same page about Kitna. Must say something! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Holliday Posted March 13, 2006 Share Posted March 13, 2006 That's what we Raider fans are hoping for. Nobody but us to pick him up. Unless OAK is actively pursuing Cpepp or planning on picking one of the 2 young guns, I would love to see them snag Kitna. 1365825[/snapback] It would be a excellent move for you guys IMO. Kitna has quite a few things that you guys can use. 1. As we both agree he would be a Bargain. 2. He is experienced 3.He does not cause headaches for his coaches(as he showed after having a great year in Cincy and then being benched) 4.He has played under bad circumstances and has shown he can stay healthy. 5.He has played under bad circumstances and held his own as a QB IMO(I feel he will be playing in similar circumstances as he did in Seattle so this is a big 1 to me) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kpholmes Posted March 13, 2006 Author Share Posted March 13, 2006 It would be a excellent move for you guys IMO. Kitna has quite a few things that you guys can use. 1. As we both agree he would be a Bargain. 2. He is experienced 3.He does not cause headaches for his coaches(as he showed after having a great year in Cincy and then being benched) 4.He has played under bad circumstances and has shown he can stay healthy. 5.He has played under bad circumstances and held his own as a QB IMO(I feel he will be playing in similar circumstances as he did in Seattle so this is a big 1 to me) 1365843[/snapback] The price of Aaron Brooks with out the headache, and an overall better QB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raider.Nation Posted March 13, 2006 Share Posted March 13, 2006 It would be a excellent move for you guys IMO. Kitna has quite a few things that you guys can use. 1. As we both agree he would be a Bargain. 2. He is experienced 3.He does not cause headaches for his coaches(as he showed after having a great year in Cincy and then being benched) 4.He has played under bad circumstances and has shown he can stay healthy. 5.He has played under bad circumstances and held his own as a QB IMO(I feel he will be playing in similar circumstances as he did in Seattle so this is a big 1 to me) 1365843[/snapback] Here's the problem though. I don't think Jon Kitna fits the style offense that Al Davis wants. And hate it or love it, Davis loves to have a QB who can sling that ball down field. And a guy like Cpepp fits the bill. Does Kitna? I'm not 100% sure there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kpholmes Posted March 13, 2006 Author Share Posted March 13, 2006 Here's the problem though. I don't think Jon Kitna fits the style offense that Al Davis wants. And hate it or love it, Davis loves to have a QB who can sling that ball down field. And a guy like Cpepp fits the bill. Does Kitna? I'm not 100% sure there. 1365850[/snapback] Yup out of 1667 completed passes, only 31 were for 40+ yards. Not too great in the eyes of Big Al. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Holliday Posted March 13, 2006 Share Posted March 13, 2006 Here's the problem though. I don't think Jon Kitna fits the style offense that Al Davis wants. And hate it or love it, Davis loves to have a QB who can sling that ball down field. And a guy like Cpepp fits the bill. Does Kitna? I'm not 100% sure there. 1365850[/snapback] He cannot sling the ball down the field like Culpepper, but he can throw on the run as good or better then Culpepper. Not to mention he has played in a number of different types off offenses and IMO will be able to adapt alot better than Culpepper. Look at all the fumbles Culpepper has had in his career, and that was behind a good line and QB friendly schemes. imagine how much he will fumble when he gets behind Oaklands line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kpholmes Posted March 13, 2006 Author Share Posted March 13, 2006 Imagine how much he will fumble when he gets behind Oaklands line. 1365867[/snapback] Don't be bagging on Oakland's line. They have had problems, but are young, and getting much better. I would take them over the Vikings line last year. Or the Lions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Holliday Posted March 13, 2006 Share Posted March 13, 2006 Don't be bagging on Oakland's line. They have had problems, but are young, and getting much better. I would take them over the Vikings line last year. Or the Lions. 1365874[/snapback] Looks like the difference between us is 1 of us knows our line is bad and the other of us does not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raider.Nation Posted March 13, 2006 Share Posted March 13, 2006 Yup out of 1667 completed passes, only 31 were for 40+ yards. Not too great in the eyes of Big Al. 1365861[/snapback] Well I don't know if that's sarcasm or not... But food for thought there Cpepps numbers Of 1678 passes completed, 57 were for 40+ yards, and 258 for 20+ yards. Where as Kitna's numbers Of 1667 completed passes only 31 were for 40+ yards, and 182 for 20+ yards. I'm not saying I don't want Kitna, just being realistic considering the owner of our team... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raider.Nation Posted March 13, 2006 Share Posted March 13, 2006 Looks like the difference between us is 1 of us knows our line is bad and the other of us does not. 1365877[/snapback] OAK has had O-line problems last season. Not worried though. They are young, and have some talent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Holliday Posted March 13, 2006 Share Posted March 13, 2006 Well I don't know if that's sarcasm or not... But food for thought there Cpepps numbers Of 1678 passes completed, 57 were for 40+ yards, and 258 for 20+ yards. Where as Kitna's numbers Of 1667 completed passes only 31 were for 40+ yards, and 182 for 20+ yards. I'm not saying I don't want Kitna, just being realistic considering the owner of our team... 1365882[/snapback] You got to wonder how many of those long passes Carter and Moss turned into long passes. Kitna never got the chance to have a Moss. That being said I completely understand your train of thought here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flip_Side Posted March 13, 2006 Share Posted March 13, 2006 Can't wait to see what happens. I would love to see Brees signed but not at that cost. I like Cpep but, Brees just a little bit better, but it might be fitting if Cpep finds his way home again in Florida and plays for the Phins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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