Footballjoe Posted March 16, 2006 Share Posted March 16, 2006 Now that the Saints have signed Brees, what could they get for the #2 pick? I have been listening to Mike & Mike and they keep saying for value the Saints could trade down to get what they need, but never mentioned what they could possibly get. Any idea? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avernus Posted March 16, 2006 Share Posted March 16, 2006 Now that the Saints have signed Brees, what could they get for the #2 pick? I have been listening to Mike & Mike and they keep saying for value the Saints could trade down to get what they need, but never mentioned what they could possibly get. Any idea? 1372575[/snapback] I think they want to trade down to the Jets so they can still get either Ferguson or Williams....and the Jets get their guy in Leinert... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Footballjoe Posted March 16, 2006 Author Share Posted March 16, 2006 Yeah, I realize that but what is the #2 overall pick worth in value. A #1 & #2, #2 & #3? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duchess Jack Posted March 16, 2006 Share Posted March 16, 2006 I think you take D'Brickshaw at 2 and don't look back Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avernus Posted March 16, 2006 Share Posted March 16, 2006 Yeah, I realize that but what is the #2 overall pick worth in value. A #1 & #2, #2 & #3? 1372594[/snapback] depends on where they are trading down to... they should get the Jets #1, #3 and next year's #2 for the Saints #1 and next year's #3 or something... unless.....unless...they trade John Abraham in the deal... that would make sense....they address DE and then hope Ferguson falls to them at 4... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Outshined Posted March 16, 2006 Share Posted March 16, 2006 I think you take D'Brickshaw at 2 and don't look back 1372598[/snapback] I agree... I don't think too many tems will be willing to trade up, too exspensive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Posted March 16, 2006 Share Posted March 16, 2006 Yeah, I realize that but what is the #2 overall pick worth in value. A #1 & #2, #2 & #3? 1372594[/snapback] Mike Mayock has a value board and says to move up 2 spots you would get a 2nd and 3rd round pick based on value. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOO Posted March 16, 2006 Share Posted March 16, 2006 that would make sense....they address DE and then hope Ferguson falls to them at 4... I've mentioned this many times before, but with the Saints - one of the few strengths on the team is DE. We don't need a DE. We have Will Smith and Charles Grant - two first rounders that are doing well. We are looking at Ferguson or Hawk in the early first - that should be it. If we trade down any further, we'll look at DT or TE maybe. Did I mention that we don't need a DE? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avernus Posted March 16, 2006 Share Posted March 16, 2006 I've mentioned this many times before, but with the Saints - one of the few strengths on the team is DE. We don't need a DE. We have Will Smith and Charles Grant - two first rounders that are doing well. We are looking at Ferguson or Hawk in the early first - that should be it. If we trade down any further, we'll look at DT or TE maybe. Did I mention that we don't need a DE? 1372615[/snapback] ahh...then how did you guys work that out with Howard in there as well? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOO Posted March 16, 2006 Share Posted March 16, 2006 ahh...then how did you guys work that out with Howard in there as well? Well Smith was a rookie so we rotated him in with Howard and Grant last year. We didn't even want Howard last year but franchised him to try and trade him (didn't work obviously). We didn't feel we were being offered fair value for Howard. He ended up mad and tanked most of the year last year. Just because we had Darren Howard on the roster last year doesn't mean we need another DE this year. Basically we have 2 A- / B+ DE's on the roster. We have 35 year old Wayne Gandy at LT and I dare you to name our MLB. Why? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Posted March 16, 2006 Share Posted March 16, 2006 I hope you grab Hawk. He would do well in that defense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOO Posted March 16, 2006 Share Posted March 16, 2006 I'm happy with Hawk or Ferguson - either one. I wouldn't terribly mind trading back a little further and getting one of the DT's and adding more picks, but Hawk or Ferguson is my preference. Ironically, we'd have 3 starting white linebackers if we took Hawk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cordo Posted March 16, 2006 Share Posted March 16, 2006 Yeah, I realize that but what is the #2 overall pick worth in value. A #1 & #2, #2 & #3? 1372594[/snapback] Talked about it here. Couple of pick value charts out there, the one I found was on theredzone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cordo Posted March 16, 2006 Share Posted March 16, 2006 Well Smith was a rookie so we rotated him in with Howard and Grant last year. We didn't even want Howard last year but franchised him to try and trade him (didn't work obviously). We didn't feel we were being offered fair value for Howard. He ended up mad and tanked most of the year last year. ... 1372867[/snapback] Plus Grant played inside some with all three on the field at the same time, or Grant and Howard at DE, and Will Smith as an OLB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azazello1313 Posted March 16, 2006 Share Posted March 16, 2006 Ironically, we'd have 3 starting white linebackers if we took Hawk. 1372939[/snapback] ironic? because it's a "chocolate city"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOO Posted March 16, 2006 Share Posted March 16, 2006 Cordo - I remember Howard shifting down to DT last year on 3rd and long, but don't remember Grant doing it that much. I'm sure they both did though. Az - I guess so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bengal Mania Posted March 16, 2006 Share Posted March 16, 2006 I love this time of year (draft anticipation)! Methinks there could be a serious poker match here. Jets can play it that they'd get a QB anyway after Saints pick a non-QB, so they don't offer much to move up. If they like all 3 QBs this is the smart play. But if they absolutely don't want one of them, it's a risk. 'Cuz if the Saints find another trade partner, the Jets would be out of luck getting a QB they want. Saints can play this in reverse, saying Jets better "pony up" or they will trade further back, and the Jets will be screwed. It seems to me you could probably pull this trade sooner rather than later (which would probably let the Saints focus on other issues), but it probably won't happen until the Saints are on the clock. Too bad it's not the Vikings at #2, or else the Jets may get their pick first anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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