vansmack32 Posted March 19, 2006 Share Posted March 19, 2006 I just cannot believe this guy is going the be the man in Denver this year. That said, it appears to be the case. A lot of positive talk about him on Sirius NFL channel recently, and, if they've truly soured on Tatum Bell, Dayne might get more work than Anderson did when he was healthy last year. If he goes into the season as the #1, dare we consider Dayne a top 15 back next year (12 TD's/1200 yards)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peensa Posted March 19, 2006 Share Posted March 19, 2006 I just cannot believe this guy is going the be the man in Denver this year. That said, it appears to be the case. A lot of positive talk about him on Sirius NFL channel recently, and, if they've truly soured on Tatum Bell, Dayne might get more work than Anderson did when he was healthy last year. If he goes into the season as the #1, dare we consider Dayne a top 15 back next year (12 TD's/1200 yards)? 1376816[/snapback] He wont be the man Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Furd Posted March 19, 2006 Share Posted March 19, 2006 I think that Dayne will be a stiff even in the vaunted Denver running game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Vatican Hitsquad Posted March 19, 2006 Share Posted March 19, 2006 Denver needs only do 1 thing and one thign only to turn Ron Dayne into a TD scoring premiere RB in the NFL this season: Keep a gigantic pile of Whoppers in the endzone for him, and let him know they're there. That was NY's mistake, they wouldn't leave the WHoppers within his line of vision and he never really reached his potential.. or the Whoppers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Dick Posted March 19, 2006 Share Posted March 19, 2006 Denver will do like they always do. Draft someone you never heard of in the 5th round and run him for 1500 yards this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kpholmes Posted March 19, 2006 Share Posted March 19, 2006 Denver will do like they always do. Draft someone you never heard of in the 5th round and run him for 1500 yards this year. 1376846[/snapback] +1 And it will piss the rest of us in the AFC West off like hell, because no one has ever heard of the kid before, while our 1-5th round picks arn't nearly as amazing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Vatican Hitsquad Posted March 19, 2006 Share Posted March 19, 2006 +1 And it will piss the rest of us in the AFC West off like hell, because no one has ever heard of the kid before, while our 1-5th round picks arn't nearly as amazing. 1376973[/snapback] Every 3 years or so they do this, and it drives me crazy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Holliday Posted March 19, 2006 Share Posted March 19, 2006 I just cannot believe this guy is going the be the man in Denver this year. That said, it appears to be the case. A lot of positive talk about him on Sirius NFL channel recently, and, if they've truly soured on Tatum Bell, Dayne might get more work than Anderson did when he was healthy last year. If he goes into the season as the #1, dare we consider Dayne a top 15 back next year (12 TD's/1200 yards)? 1376816[/snapback] He may end up the starter, but someone else will get a majority of the carries. I don't feel the starting RB for them is on the roster yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ursa Majoris Posted March 19, 2006 Share Posted March 19, 2006 So is it worth hanging on to Bell in a three keeper league and using a 6th round pick to do so? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackass Posted March 19, 2006 Share Posted March 19, 2006 I just cannot believe this guy is going the be the man in Denver this year. That said, it appears to be the case. A lot of positive talk about him on Sirius NFL channel recently, and, if they've truly soured on Tatum Bell, Dayne might get more work than Anderson did when he was healthy last year. If he goes into the season as the #1, dare we consider Dayne a top 15 back next year (12 TD's/1200 yards)? 1376816[/snapback] Dayne blows. The broncos will probably draft someone in the 2nd or 3rd round, throw him in with Bell and Dayne and throw Athenae at the wall until it sticks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popeye Posted March 19, 2006 Share Posted March 19, 2006 I think there is an outside chance that R. Williams will be in Denver if he is cleared to play. The Broncos were interested in him before his drug test came back positive and I believe they still will be if he is cleared. He would definitely be a great fit with the Bronco's system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swiss Cheezhead Posted March 19, 2006 Share Posted March 19, 2006 I'm really not sure where I stand on this issue. I own Dayne and Bell in GMX, so I do have some vested interest, but it's kind of unclear right now. Given the Clarett situation and the Ricky W rumors, Shanahan seems to be extremely interested in reclamation projects. Dayne would fit that description. Plus, since Shanny knows his running game was still extremely productive last year without a true #1 guy, I could definitely see him entering 2006 with just Dayne and Bell getting almost all of the carries. Don't forget -- Dayne ran in a zone-blocking system in college, so if he suddenly thrived in Denver, I wouldn't be surprised. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avernus Posted March 19, 2006 Share Posted March 19, 2006 Denver will do like they always do. Draft someone you never heard of in the 5th round and run him for 1500 yards this year. 1376846[/snapback] exactly what I am waiting for... the question is, who is the handcuff?...Bell or Dayne? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avernus Posted March 19, 2006 Share Posted March 19, 2006 I'm really not sure where I stand on this issue. I own Dayne and Bell in GMX, so I do have some vested interest, but it's kind of unclear right now. Given the Clarett situation and the Ricky W rumors, Shanahan seems to be extremely interested in reclamation projects. Dayne would fit that description. Plus, since Shanny knows his running game was still extremely productive last year without a true #1 guy, I could definitely see him entering 2006 with just Dayne and Bell getting almost all of the carries. Don't forget -- Dayne ran in a zone-blocking system in college, so if he suddenly thrived in Denver, I wouldn't be surprised. 1377151[/snapback] Dayne lacks the breakaway speed that is needed for a productive back in the Denver system... the fact that Dayne or Bell couldn't unseat Anderson who was once the FB because there was someone better only tells me that the starter in Denver won't appear until weeks 3-5.... and he'll still get 1400+ yds and 8+ TD's Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kpholmes Posted March 19, 2006 Share Posted March 19, 2006 Dayne lacks the breakaway speed that is needed for a productive back in the Denver system... 1377155[/snapback] Which we saw against Dallas with the 55 yarder... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avernus Posted March 19, 2006 Share Posted March 19, 2006 Which we saw against Dallas with the 55 yarder... 1377190[/snapback] yeah...how often did he play?...a couple carries every 3 games? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swiss Cheezhead Posted March 19, 2006 Share Posted March 19, 2006 Dayne lacks the breakaway speed that is needed for a productive back in the Denver system... 1377155[/snapback] Okay, that was just an asinine statement, buddy. So, suddenly Terrell Davis, Mike Anderson, Olandis Gary, and Mike Anderson (again) all had "breakaway speed"? There have been only two RBs in that system with that kind of speed -- Portis and Bell. Portis was a big departure from Shanahan's normal drafting strategy. He likes bigger backs and he likes to take them later than the 2nd round. He tried to groom another "speed back" with Bell, but he doesn't like the results so far. Hence, Dayne getting a shot. Shanny's going back to his original strategy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avernus Posted March 19, 2006 Share Posted March 19, 2006 (edited) Okay, that was just an asinine statement, buddy. So, suddenly Terrell Davis, Mike Anderson, Olandis Gary, and Mike Anderson (again) all had "breakaway speed"? There have been only two RBs in that system with that kind of speed -- Portis and Bell. Portis was a big departure from Shanahan's normal drafting strategy. He likes bigger backs and he likes to take them later than the 2nd round. He tried to groom another "speed back" with Bell, but he doesn't like the results so far. Hence, Dayne getting a shot. Shanny's going back to his original strategy. 1377207[/snapback] so you're comparing Davis, Gary and Anderson to Dayne?...I didn't say you had to be fast like Portis...but as fat as he is, I doubt he'd be productive for more than 7 or 8 games tops with a lag in between them....halfway into the season, he won't have what it takes to finish the season... he's just way too fat.....asinine?...lmao...rethink your position.. edit: also, I know you'll likely try to flip this, so I'll restate what I said...Gary is no better than Dayne when it comes to running the ball...but he was faster and took advantage of hitting the hole just even a split second faster than Dayne would... staypuffed marshmellow man would get busted 4 weeks into the season.. Edited March 19, 2006 by Avernus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pedroz13 Posted March 19, 2006 Share Posted March 19, 2006 How did Bell lose his job as #2 behind Mike Anderson in the off-season? He had a very high YPC and played very well with the carries he got. I must have missed something, when did Dayne surpass Bell and how? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avernus Posted March 19, 2006 Share Posted March 19, 2006 How did Bell lose his job as #2 behind Mike Anderson in the off-season? He had a very high YPC and played very well with the carries he got. I must have missed something, when did Dayne surpass Bell and how? 1377219[/snapback] the style of running he does and Bell's inability to stay healthy... on top of that, Skeletor likes to motivate young talent that hasn't lived up to expectations... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazysight Posted March 19, 2006 Share Posted March 19, 2006 Dayne has breakaway speed he just has poor acceleration, which is why he never worked out as a goal=line back. His gears run high but when he does get his 250 pound frame into 5th gear he becomes very difficult to take down. The key is whether Denver can get him into 5th gear consistently enough... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
broncosn05 Posted March 19, 2006 Share Posted March 19, 2006 Ron Dayne is the man in Denver. GET THE flip OUT OF HERE!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swiss Cheezhead Posted March 19, 2006 Share Posted March 19, 2006 so you're comparing Davis, Gary and Anderson to Dayne? 1377217[/snapback] No -- I don't need to. Your comment was that Dayne wouldn't succeed in Denver because he lacked breakaway speed. I listed a bunch of RBs without breakaway speed who succeeded in Denver. You implied speed was necessary in the scheme, but it's just not the case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avernus Posted March 19, 2006 Share Posted March 19, 2006 No -- I don't need to. Your comment was that Dayne wouldn't succeed in Denver because he lacked breakaway speed. I listed a bunch of RBs without breakaway speed who succeeded in Denver. You implied speed was necessary in the scheme, but it's just not the case. 1377297[/snapback] it's not...you misinterpreted my statement... he lacks the breakaway speed to succeed anywhere and he's not a powerback, despite his size...he's not the starter in Denver.....well, he's named that now...in March lol...we have another 6 months until it holds weight...in this case, literally.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swiss Cheezhead Posted March 20, 2006 Share Posted March 20, 2006 it's not...you misinterpreted my statement... 1377305[/snapback] Dayne lacks the breakaway speed that is needed for a productive back in the Denver system... 1377155[/snapback] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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