Randall Posted March 22, 2006 Share Posted March 22, 2006 LORD FAVRE IS COMING BACK Although there's been no official announcement, we've been told that Packers quarterback Brett Favre has informed the team that he'll be returning for the 2006 season. The move means that the Packers almost certainly will not take a quarterback with the fifth overall pick in the draft. Previously, we'd heard that the team would potentially be interested in selecting Matt Leinart, if Favre were to walk away. Since 2002, the question of whether Favre would or wouldn't retire has been the subject of rampant and regular scrutiny. His return for 2006 means that, barring an unequivocal statement before, during, or after the coming season, we'll get to spend another 12 months or so periodically addressing the same, old, tired issue. http://www.profootballtalk.com/rumormill.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitem0nkey Posted March 22, 2006 Share Posted March 22, 2006 great news! I think he still can play at a high level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huddled Masses Posted March 22, 2006 Share Posted March 22, 2006 LORD FAVRE IS COMING BACK The move means that the Packers almost certainly will not take a quarterback with the fifth overall pick in the draft. Previously, we'd heard that the team would potentially be interested in selecting Matt Leinart, if Favre were to walk away. 1382551[/snapback] They've already given up on Rodgers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VikesGuy Posted March 22, 2006 Share Posted March 22, 2006 great news! I think he still can play at a high level. 1382568[/snapback] Your right do you think he will top 29 TD and 20 INTS this year. Wait that was 20 TDs and 29 INTS last year wasn't it. The D'Backs the North are going to the licking there chops this again year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swiss Cheezhead Posted March 22, 2006 Share Posted March 22, 2006 I knew it all along. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gdawg Posted March 22, 2006 Share Posted March 22, 2006 Wasnt someone betting people money Favre was gong to retire about a week ago? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big John Posted March 22, 2006 Share Posted March 22, 2006 Wasnt someone betting people money Favre was gong to retire about a week ago? 1382615[/snapback] Brentastic was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gdawg Posted March 22, 2006 Share Posted March 22, 2006 Thanks Big John. I thought so... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pope Flick Posted March 22, 2006 Share Posted March 22, 2006 Thanks Big John. I thought so... 1382638[/snapback] I'd say this is 50/50 - as pft does nothing but monger in rumours with a pretty poor track record..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gdawg Posted March 22, 2006 Share Posted March 22, 2006 I'd say this is 50/50 - as pft does nothing but monger in rumours with a pretty poor track record..... 1382661[/snapback] I was only saying that I thought someone was betting people with regard to Favre coming back...not that I thought Favre WAS coming back... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whiskey Pimp Posted March 22, 2006 Share Posted March 22, 2006 The move means that the Packers almost certainly will not take a quarterback with the fifth overall pick in the draft. Previously, we'd heard that the team would potentially be interested in selecting Matt Leinart, if Favre were to walk away. 1382551[/snapback] If the Jets are trying to move from 4 to 2 to get him, how would the Pack consider him at 5? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd1 Posted March 22, 2006 Share Posted March 22, 2006 Leinert!?!?? Are we the Detroit Lions now? At least you can play 3 WR sets, but unless you have a Slash/Vick kinda QB, it's darn hard to put two on the field at the same time!!! Oh yeah, neither Rodgers or Leinert have any "slash" in them.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swiss Cheezhead Posted March 22, 2006 Share Posted March 22, 2006 Don't believe the Leinart crap. They had a source several weeks ago that said something about how Aaron Rodgers hadn't blown anyone away in his first year (under the Sherman staff). PFT took that, along with reports that the Packers have scouted Leinart, to mean that they'd consider taking a QB with their first pick. Still, I wouldn't say PFT has "a poor track record". They don't just make stuff up; there's a good reason for this report, regardless of whether it ends up being true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MojoMan Posted March 22, 2006 Share Posted March 22, 2006 Favre is soooo 1997-8. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
policyvote Posted March 22, 2006 Share Posted March 22, 2006 I'd say this is 50/50 - as pft does nothing but monger in rumours with a pretty poor track record..... 1382661[/snapback] Pretty poor track record??? For starters, PFT reports ALL the details on stories that most national media won't touch. When they blew open the case of Randy Moss's agent getting busted for pulling a Tyrone Biggums-style crack party, I thought it was going to be huge . . . I never heard a peep from the national media. For seconds, a lot of the stuff they post is openly marked as pure speculation on their part, so I'm not going to hold them to "accuracy" standards. Finally, where else can you get this stuff? Every time some guy signs a contract, the doofi over at ESPN are still all like "OMG TEN YEAR YEAL 100 MILLION DOLLARS BIGGEST CONTRACT EVER" and PFT is like "well, we got a copy of the contract, and once you discount everything the agent told the media, you see there's a $10M roster bonus due before the fifth year, so it's basically a four-year deal worth $10M guaranteed up front and $25M total . . ." If you want to continue to get spoonfed the team- and league-approved versions of stories, two or three days after the fact, go ahead and read ESPN or watch Total Access. But if you want to know what's about to happen or what could happen, you have to read PFT. Peace policy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goopster24 Posted March 22, 2006 Share Posted March 22, 2006 Can't wait to see him get drilled one last time at Soldier Field. Hats off to him either way, respect the hell out of him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Posted March 22, 2006 Author Share Posted March 22, 2006 Pretty poor track record??? For starters, PFT reports ALL the details on stories that most national media won't touch. When they blew open the case of Randy Moss's agent getting busted for pulling a Tyrone Biggums-style crack party, I thought it was going to be huge . . . I never heard a peep from the national media. For seconds, a lot of the stuff they post is openly marked as pure speculation on their part, so I'm not going to hold them to "accuracy" standards.... Peace policy 1383165[/snapback] That section was labeled rumor. Here Favre's agent says he hasn't decided yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MojoMan Posted March 22, 2006 Share Posted March 22, 2006 How is the shoulder? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Posted March 22, 2006 Author Share Posted March 22, 2006 How is the shoulder? 1383223[/snapback] Me? It was worse then they thought. A 1 centimeter tear turned out to be 1 inch and they shaved down some bone. Very painful yesterday, but after a month or two it could be worth it. It was so painful last night I don't think I would let them do it again. Should be better tomorrow. Thanks for asking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MojoMan Posted March 22, 2006 Share Posted March 22, 2006 Opioids my friend. Opioids. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Posted March 22, 2006 Author Share Posted March 22, 2006 Opioids my friend. Opioids. 1383232[/snapback] Thank God for Vicodin. It got me through the night last night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swiss Cheezhead Posted March 23, 2006 Share Posted March 23, 2006 Pretty poor track record??? For starters, PFT reports ALL the details on stories that most national media won't touch. When they blew open the case of Randy Moss's agent getting busted for pulling a Tyrone Biggums-style crack party, I thought it was going to be huge . . . I never heard a peep from the national media. For seconds, a lot of the stuff they post is openly marked as pure speculation on their part, so I'm not going to hold them to "accuracy" standards. Finally, where else can you get this stuff? Every time some guy signs a contract, the doofi over at ESPN are still all like "OMG TEN YEAR YEAL 100 MILLION DOLLARS BIGGEST CONTRACT EVER" and PFT is like "well, we got a copy of the contract, and once you discount everything the agent told the media, you see there's a $10M roster bonus due before the fifth year, so it's basically a four-year deal worth $10M guaranteed up front and $25M total . . ." If you want to continue to get spoonfed the team- and league-approved versions of stories, two or three days after the fact, go ahead and read ESPN or watch Total Access. But if you want to know what's about to happen or what could happen, you have to read PFT. Peace policy 1383165[/snapback] I've been telling these dorks the same thing for months now, policy. Still, every time a PFT report surfaces on this board, some Megan Fox has to come along and tell us that it's "just a rumor-mongering website". Whatever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Posted March 23, 2006 Author Share Posted March 23, 2006 Their response PACKERS SANDBAGGING ON LORD FAVRE RETURN We reported on Wednesday that Packers quarterback Brett Favre has told the team that he'll play again in 2006, but that no public announcement has been made. Our report caused a mini-commotion. ESPN.com ran a story attempting to debunk it. Adam Schefter of the NFL Network asked Favre's agent, Bus Cook, about it. Said Cook: "That's news to me -- and I spoke to Brett an hour ago." G.M. Ted Thompson declined to address the matter, according to the Green Bay Press-Gazette. "It's not our policy to respond, confirm or non-confirm things on a Web site," Thompson said. "We'd spend all of our day doing that." The Wisconsin State Journal writes that Thompson "laughed off" the report. "I don't comment on Internet reports," Thompson said Wednesday. "Especially Internet reports." Of course, a good follow up question would have gone something like this: "But, Ted, this is a site that has broken major stories, just in the past month, including the Vikings' efforts to trade Daunte Culpepper, the retirement of the Commissioner, the Vince Young Wonderlic score, the financial details of the Edgerrin James contract, the offer sheet signed by Steve Hutchinson with the Vikings, and the existence of the 'poison pill' in that offer sheet. Still no comment?" Then again, that question wasn't necessary. Thompson knows about us, and he knows that we're much more than just some sports site that simply scours the web for stories reported by others. So why wouldn't Thompson respond? Because, in our view, he knows the report is right on the money. Though we're not sure whether the Packers are trying to keep guessing the other teams who are or who might be inclined to get in front of them on draft day or whether the Packers want to allow Favre to create the impression that he wasn't pushed into making a decision or whether the team wants the fans and the media to ultimately conclude that the organization did enough to improve the team in the offseason since the end result prompted Brett to come back, Thompson's reaction tells us everything we need to know. Favre is coming back, and the team and the player are keeping it under wraps. Here's the best circumstantial evidence that, in our view, supports the fact that something is happening. In Thursday's Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel, Tom Silverstein writes that the trigger for Favre's roster bonus has again been bumped, this time from March 22 to April 1. In that same article, however, Silverstein writes that the roster bonus "is mostly artificial because under the terms of the contract Favre doesn't receive the money until September if he returns and doesn't receive it at all if he retires." Mostly artificial? If Silverstein is right on that, the deadline for the bonus is completely artificial. All the team had to do was to exercise the roster bonus and then sit back and wait. If Favre retires, they don't pay it. If he plays, they pay. So this whole roster bonus postponement thing is part of the smokescreen. Favre is coming back. He knows it. His agent knows it. The team knows it. And everyone involved has decided, for whatever reason, to keep it under wraps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexgaddis Posted March 23, 2006 Share Posted March 23, 2006 He wants that Interception record BADLY... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Score 1 Posted March 23, 2006 Share Posted March 23, 2006 Here's the best circumstantial evidence that, in our view, supports the fact that something is happening. In Thursday's Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel, Tom Silverstein writes that the trigger for Favre's roster bonus has again been bumped, this time from March 22 to April 1. In that same article, however, Silverstein writes that the roster bonus "is mostly artificial because under the terms of the contract Favre doesn't receive the money until September if he returns and doesn't receive it at all if he retires." Mostly artificial? If Silverstein is right on that, the deadline for the bonus is completely artificial. All the team had to do was to exercise the roster bonus and then sit back and wait. If Favre retires, they don't pay it. If he plays, they pay. The above seems to be sound circumstantial evidence, until you find out that PFT didn't include this; Under terms of the contract, Favre would become an unrestricted free agent if the Packers do not pay the bonus. But all along, the sides had an understanding that the payment deadline would be pushed back if Favre needed more time to decide on his future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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