Swiss Cheezhead Posted March 22, 2006 Share Posted March 22, 2006 (edited) According to Chris Mortensen, via ESPN radio, Vince Young just ran a 4.58-second forty-yard dash on Texas's "fast track". EDIT: It's .2 seconds faster than Cutler's 4.77. My bad. Edited March 22, 2006 by Swiss Cheezhead Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theeohiostate Posted March 22, 2006 Share Posted March 22, 2006 According to Chris Mortensen, via ESPN radio, Vince Young just ran a 4.58-second forty-yard dash on Texas's "fast track". 1383198[/snapback] I've seen a few reports on 4.49 to 4.58, regardless he's in a free fall right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swiss Cheezhead Posted March 22, 2006 Author Share Posted March 22, 2006 Also, according to the scout Mort spoke with, Young wasn't asked to "make certain throws or execute certain drops". What a dumbass. Vince -- meet Aaron Rodgers. He'll talk you off the ledge on draft day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spain Posted March 22, 2006 Share Posted March 22, 2006 (edited) John McClain from the Houston Chronicle attended Young's workout today. He said on the radio that Young absolutely blew everyone away with his arm strength and accuracy. He said that Young made one throw where he rolled left and threw a 60 yard strike down the sideline hitting the wr in stride that only folks like Elway and Favre can make. He said that Young's workout was fabulous. edit: I have no link, thats just what I heard McClain say on the radio. He said the Titans have brought their own wr corps down there and will spend alot of time tomorrow with Young. I dont know why everyone has Young in a free fall now, other than the Wonderlic test. McClain says that Young has been administered all sorts of pyschological tests by the Titans and others. I still believe the Titans will take Young unless Leinart is still on the board at 1.3... Edited March 22, 2006 by spain Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swiss Cheezhead Posted March 22, 2006 Author Share Posted March 22, 2006 John McClain from the Houston Chronicle attended Young's workout today. He said on the radio that Young absolutely blew everyone away with his arm strength and accuracy. He said that Young made one throw where he rolled left and threw a 60 yard strike down the sideline hitting the wr in stride that only folks like Elway and Favre can make. He said that Young's workout was fabulous. 1383206[/snapback] Hmmm...that's certainly a different take, albeit from a reporter not a scout. I guess we'll have to wait and hear from more witnesses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theeohiostate Posted March 22, 2006 Share Posted March 22, 2006 I read a report he completed 55 of 57 passes, so that confirms his accuracy as Spain stated. I'm not a Young fan by any means, but any team(in needs of a future QB) that doesn't trade up for him if he falls out of the top 7 is flat out crazy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spain Posted March 22, 2006 Share Posted March 22, 2006 (edited) Hmmm...that's certainly a different take, albeit from a reporter not a scout. I guess we'll have to wait and hear from more witnesses. 1383208[/snapback] Agreed. But McClain usually does a pretty good job. Although he is the NFL beat writer for the Houston Chronicle, he is a weekly guest on sports radio here in Nashville and has done that since the Oilers arrived. He covered the Oilers for the Chronicle for something like 20 years and is very knowledgeable and entertaining about the NFL. I give alot more credit to what he says than Chris Mortenson, but not as much as I would to a scout. But McClain was reporting what some of the scouts there were telling him and according to him, the scouts were absolutely blown away by Youngs performance. Edited March 22, 2006 by spain Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mggoilers Posted March 22, 2006 Share Posted March 22, 2006 McClain is very close to both front offices of the Texans and Oilers err Titans. 4.5 isn't too bad for a 6-5 QB who weighs around 225. Young is a freak on the football field. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whiskey Pimp Posted March 22, 2006 Share Posted March 22, 2006 I still believe the Titans will take Young unless Leinart is still on the board at 1.3... 1383206[/snapback] If the Titans like Young so much, maybe if Bush goes 1, D'Brick 2 to NO (assuming no trade is worked out with Jets) then would TEN swap spots with the Jets knowing the Jets would take Leinart and they could get the 29th overall too possibly? Or do they only take Young if Leinart is gone and Leinart is their main guy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spain Posted March 22, 2006 Share Posted March 22, 2006 If the Titans like Young so much, maybe if Bush goes 1, D'Brick 2 to NO (assuming no trade is worked out with Jets) then would TEN swap spots with the Jets knowing the Jets would take Leinart and they could get the 29th overall too possibly? Or do they only take Young if Leinart is gone and Leinart is their main guy? 1383219[/snapback] I have no idea, but I do know that Floyd Reese loves to trade down and get more picks. I think that Young's workout today may have elevated him above Leinart but I really dont know. We will have to see what reports are of Leinarts workout. His workout is next week I believe, so I am sure that the Titans still havent completed their evaluations. Rest assured, Tennessee will be taking a QB with a high pick. Which one and if they are willing to trade down any is difficult to say right now... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Posted March 22, 2006 Share Posted March 22, 2006 Young 'impressive' at workout for NFL scouts By CHAREAN WILLIAMS STAR-TELEGRAM STAFF WRITER AUSTIN – Quarterback Vince Young had an “impressive” workout for the NFL scouts on Wednesday at the University of Texas. Young, who is bypassing his senior season with the Longhorns to enter the draft, measured 6-foot-4½ inches and weighed 228 pounds. He ran one 40-yard dash in a hand-held 4.58 seconds. The Longhorns’ Pro Day attracted 130 scouts and 85 media members. Young threw 55 passes with five incomplete and one drop. He used four wide receivers. They were Texas teammates David Thomas, Ahmard Hall, Brian Carter and former high school teammate and Idaho player Daniel Smith. Young caught one pass on a trick play. “I feel like I did a good job. I stayed relaxed, poised and had fun,” Young said. “You hear so much that 'Vince is not working out. Vince is not doing this and that.' I wanted to go out and show them that I am working out.” The Houston Texans, who have the No. 1 overall pick in April’s draft, sent 10 representatives, including head coach Gary Kubiak. The Tennessee Titans, who pick third overall, sent seven representatives. “I love this guy. He’s got a big arm,” Kubiak said. “He was very impressive.” Kubiak said he will attend only two college pro days. The other will be at Southern Cal on April 2. Other notables attending the workouts were Miami coach Nick Saban, Green Bay coach Mike McCarthy and Cowboys quarterback coach Chris Palmer. Another coach, Tennessee’s Jeff Fisher, is scheduled to fly to Austin later tonight and visit with Young. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azazello1313 Posted March 22, 2006 Share Posted March 22, 2006 If the Titans like Young so much, maybe if Bush goes 1, D'Brick 2 to NO (assuming no trade is worked out with Jets) then would TEN swap spots with the Jets knowing the Jets would take Leinart and they could get the 29th overall too possibly? Or do they only take Young if Leinart is gone and Leinart is their main guy? 1383219[/snapback] well let's see, why on earth would the jets make that trade? if the titans call offering to swap picks, you know it's because they value young over leinart. if they wanted leinart, they wouldn't even make that call. so if you're the jets what do you have to gain by paying a premium to swap places? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
broncosn05 Posted March 22, 2006 Share Posted March 22, 2006 Also, according to the scout Mort spoke with, Young wasn't asked to "make certain throws or execute certain drops". What a dumbass. Vince -- meet Aaron Rodgers. He'll talk you off the ledge on draft day. 1383205[/snapback] Give him 3 plays just like in Texas and he'll be fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt. Ryan Posted March 22, 2006 Share Posted March 22, 2006 well let's see, why on earth would the jets make that trade? if the titans call offering to swap picks, you know it's because they value young over leinart. if they wanted leinart, they wouldn't even make that call. so if you're the jets what do you have to gain by paying a premium to swap places? 1383275[/snapback] Because Tenn could trade down a few spots and still get young or Cutler, and leinart doesnt fall to the Jets at #4. But this is a moot point, Leinart is going #2, either by NY by moving up, or another team moving up to get him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt. Ryan Posted March 22, 2006 Share Posted March 22, 2006 Id love to see Young end up in Dallas. Jerry, get it done...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azazello1313 Posted March 22, 2006 Share Posted March 22, 2006 Because Tenn could trade down a few spots1383293[/snapback] he was talking about the titans swapping picks with the jets, at 3 and 4 respectively. it would make sense for the titans, if young and leinart are on the the board and they prefer young...but it would make none whatsoever for the jets, and that was my point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spain Posted March 22, 2006 Share Posted March 22, 2006 Id love to see Young end up in Dallas. Jerry, get it done...... 1383294[/snapback] That aint going to happen unless Jerry can trade up to 1.1 or 1.2... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keggerz Posted March 22, 2006 Share Posted March 22, 2006 he was talking about the titans swapping picks with the jets, at 3 and 4 respectively. it would make sense for the titans, if young and leinart are on the the board and they prefer young...but it would make none whatsoever for the jets, and that was my point. 1383298[/snapback] well you would have to sell the fact that you have another trade partner i guess and that you arent looking QB but if I was NY and i didnt trade up to 2 i would stay put at #4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mggoilers Posted March 22, 2006 Share Posted March 22, 2006 Mort needed to get off his fat hindquarter and see for himself. Everyone else seemed pretty impressed...sounds like if he keeps his nose clean till the draft he'll still be a top 10 pick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swiss Cheezhead Posted March 23, 2006 Author Share Posted March 23, 2006 Well, so far, I'm betting the reality of Young's workout is somewhere in between the unfavorable picture painted by Mort (relayed by ESPN Radio) and the totally glowing report from McClain. So, in essence, his workout probably didn't change anything at all. I'm sure teams will be a little disappointed that he didn't run in the 4.4s, but they'll just remind themselves that he runs a lot tougher than guys who are faster. If he really showed a big arm and good accuracy, he's still probably a top-10 pick. That said, there's no denying it will take some patience from a coaching staff to acclimate Young to the NFL. If it's true that he didn't take enough under-center snaps at his workout, I'd be more than a little concerned about how long it will take for him to learn it. I'll be honest, though -- I'm rooting for Young to succeed. I'd still take Cutler before Young (and Leinart, for that matter), but I like Young for who he is. He seems like a good kid with great heart and solid character. Plus, he's fun as hell to watch. This is going to be a great draft to watch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
policyvote Posted March 23, 2006 Share Posted March 23, 2006 Write it down now: Vince Young = BUST. Peace policy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big John Posted March 23, 2006 Share Posted March 23, 2006 EDIT: It's .2 seconds faster than Cutler's 4.77. My bad. 1383198[/snapback] fixed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spain Posted March 23, 2006 Share Posted March 23, 2006 Write it down now: Vince Young = BUST. Peace policy 1383451[/snapback] If anyone knows quarterback busts, its a Lions fan! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keggerz Posted March 23, 2006 Share Posted March 23, 2006 If anyone knows quarterback busts, its a Lions fan! 1383467[/snapback] they have to have someone for the QB to throw it to Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pope Flick Posted March 23, 2006 Share Posted March 23, 2006 he was talking about the titans swapping picks with the jets, at 3 and 4 respectively. it would make sense for the titans, if young and leinart are on the the board and they prefer young...but it would make none whatsoever for the jets, and that was my point. 1383298[/snapback] I think regardless that there is not a NO/NYJ trade. I'll make a small wager (20) with anyone who feels otherwise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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