Front Row Posted March 23, 2006 Share Posted March 23, 2006 Deuce McAllister participated in the Saints offseason conditioning program on Monday and expects to be fully recovered from a torn ACL in time for training camp. "The ultimate goal is to be ready for training camp and hopefully, not being limited any amount at all," McAllister told the Saints' official website. McAllister is still experiencing soreness and swelling, but is working through the pain. I would be surprised if he comes back as a viable fantasy back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NAUgrad Posted March 23, 2006 Share Posted March 23, 2006 (edited) I would expect he'll be average at best. Probably maxing out at maybe 1,000 total yrds of offense. However, if your in a keeper league, he should be much better in 2007. RB's always take a full year to recover from ACL's. Edited March 23, 2006 by NAUgrad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avernus Posted March 23, 2006 Share Posted March 23, 2006 I don't like him anymore at all... I always go with the younger back or the one in a great running offense... older backs are alot more riskier...he hasn't been that effective lately...he keeps getting hurt and onlky really had 2 great years...now he looks puffy like he's been juicin' up....and he's lost a step in the speed dept. because of it... I'll rank him....but in an area where I know someone will take him before me....I'd rather have C Taylor than him.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i_am_the_swammi Posted March 23, 2006 Share Posted March 23, 2006 I'd probably consider him a Stephen Davis-type player going into the draft. Should get the TDs when the Saints are inside the 5 yard line, and may be in line for the occasional big game, but I don't see him carrying the full load he once did. I can't imagine him getting 25+ carries per game on a consistent basis. Draft-wise, I'd project him in the 16-19 range amongst RBs, and that may be generous. ONly way I'd take him is if he slipped to 20-25, and I was more than set at the position. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kpholmes Posted March 23, 2006 Share Posted March 23, 2006 After two years as a Deuce owner, stay as far away as possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitem0nkey Posted March 23, 2006 Share Posted March 23, 2006 After two years as a Deuce owner, stay as far away as possible. 1384167[/snapback] +1 Two years ago I decided to stay away from any NO player. And it was a good decision. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pedroz13 Posted March 23, 2006 Share Posted March 23, 2006 After two years as a Deuce owner, stay as far away as possible. 1384167[/snapback] I'm with you on this one. I won't touch him this year after the past 2 seasons. He's on my Jamal Lewis list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
junebugz Posted March 23, 2006 Share Posted March 23, 2006 58.9765 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avernus Posted March 23, 2006 Share Posted March 23, 2006 I'm with you on this one. I won't touch him this year after the past 2 seasons. He's on my Jamal Lewis list. 1384292[/snapback] you have one of those lists too? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheezhed Posted March 23, 2006 Share Posted March 23, 2006 I'm with you on this one. I won't touch him this year after the past 2 seasons. He's on my Jamal Lewis list. 1384292[/snapback] agreed. Coach Billick seems to be expecting huge things from JL this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avernus Posted March 23, 2006 Share Posted March 23, 2006 agreed. Coach Billick seems to be expecting huge things from JL this season. 1385305[/snapback] I might actually take a flier on him late in the 2nd round if he's there... I think he'll actually try because last year his plan backfired... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mggoilers Posted March 23, 2006 Share Posted March 23, 2006 Deuce is a horse. I think he suffered from some poor play calling the last couple of years. he also came in a bit heavy in the last years. Word is, he has last some weight with his ongoing rehab. I still think Deuce is one of a handful of everydown backs in the league. Saying that, coming off an ACL tear is tough. He should get a lot of work in the Payton's offense, but not sure if he can handle the workload initially...he should be good by fantasy playoff time. http://www.footballdocs.com/RB_injury_rule.html this is a good article on RB leg injuries Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainHook Posted March 23, 2006 Share Posted March 23, 2006 The play-calling and Aaron Brooks killed McAllister's value the last couple years. Not his conditioning. I've had him in a dynasty league for a while now, and I'm torn. I could keep him, or go with WR like Andre Johnson or RB like Tatum Bell. Right now, I'm leaning towards keeping him. If the Sainst draft Ferguson, after spending their first round pick last year on a RT, I will be even more inclined to keep him. Plus with Drew Brees coming in, I think the Saints will have a more balanced attack. I'm not expecting a monster year from him, but 1200+ total yards with 8 TD's is possible isn't it? I hope . . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avernus Posted March 23, 2006 Share Posted March 23, 2006 The play-calling and Aaron Brooks killed McAllister's value the last couple years. Not his conditioning. I've had him in a dynasty league for a while now, and I'm torn. I could keep him, or go with WR like Andre Johnson or RB like Tatum Bell. Right now, I'm leaning towards keeping him. If the Sainst draft Ferguson, after spending their first round pick last year on a RT, I will be even more inclined to keep him. Plus with Drew Brees coming in, I think the Saints will have a more balanced attack. I'm not expecting a monster year from him, but 1200+ total yards with 8 TD's is possible isn't it? I hope . . . 1385353[/snapback] I don't know if Brees is THAT much of an upgrade over Brooks...especially if he failed a physical with the Dolphins... but I think he'll be fine when the season starts... on top of that...if they draft Ferguson...he'll just replace Bentley (not position-wise obviously...but talent-wise)...and he won't have a Gates-like weapon on offense... I think Horn has shown he's on the downswing of his career last year and Stallworth still doesn't have me convinced....however, Zach Hilton could be his broke-man's version of Gates....never know... I just don't know if the offense is going to be any better, besides the 'tarded decision making of Brooks....kinda like the backward pass.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainHook Posted March 23, 2006 Share Posted March 23, 2006 on top of that...if they draft Ferguson...he'll just replace Bentley (not position-wise obviously...but talent-wise)...and he won't have a Gates-like weapon on offense1385363[/snapback] But I think having a top flight tackle is better than having a center, although I see your point. A lot definitely depends on Brees shoulder, for sure. Deuce really is a top notch back. He's got great "wiggle" for a guy his size. Plus, he catches the ball very well. It's a shame he had a high ankle sprain last year, and the ACL this year. Hopefully he can be injury free this coming season, and even better in 2007. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cordo Posted March 24, 2006 Share Posted March 24, 2006 The play-calling and Aaron Brooks killed McAllister's value the last couple years. Not his conditioning. ... 1385353[/snapback] FWIW - Deuce started the 2004 season heavier than he'd ever been, and it was very obvious that it affected his speed. And after he sprained his ankle in game 2 vs SF, he looked even heavier. Haslett had a near fetish with wanting his RBs and LBs to bulk up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainHook Posted March 24, 2006 Share Posted March 24, 2006 FWIW -Deuce started the 2004 season heavier than he'd ever been, and it was very obvious that it affected his speed. And after he sprained his ankle in game 2 vs SF, he looked even heavier. Haslett had a near fetish with wanting his RBs and LBs to bulk up. 1385415[/snapback] By conditioning, I did not mean weight, but meant his endurance though games. I did not notice a problem. BUT, I am not a Saints fan, so defer to those who are. I've already mentioned them, but the two factors that will determines McAllister's value to me are (1) whether the Saints draft Ferguson and (2) Drew Brees' health heading into the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cordo Posted March 24, 2006 Share Posted March 24, 2006 By conditioning, I did not mean weight, but meant his endurance though games. I did not notice a problem. BUT, I am not a Saints fan, so defer to those who are. I've already mentioned them, but the two factors that will determines McAllister's value to me are (1) whether the Saints draft Ferguson and (2) Drew Brees' health heading into the season. 1385417[/snapback] That's why I phrased my response like I did. Can't say that I thought it affected his overall conditioning either, but it certainly affected his speed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avernus Posted March 24, 2006 Share Posted March 24, 2006 But I think having a top flight tackle is better than having a center, although I see your point. A lot definitely depends on Brees shoulder, for sure. Deuce really is a top notch back. He's got great "wiggle" for a guy his size. Plus, he catches the ball very well. It's a shame he had a high ankle sprain last year, and the ACL this year. Hopefully he can be injury free this coming season, and even better in 2007. 1385390[/snapback] exactly...I mean, I started the Deuce bandwagon in 2002....then officially jumped ship prior to the 2005 season....actually, it was during the 2004 season... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avernus Posted March 24, 2006 Share Posted March 24, 2006 That's why I phrased my response like I did. Can't say that I thought it affected his overall conditioning either, but it certainly affected his speed. 1385462[/snapback] he definately lost a step after the 2003 season...he wasn't the same back and as I said before, he looked puffier...as if he was juicin' up... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donutrun Jellies Posted March 24, 2006 Share Posted March 24, 2006 agreed. Coach Billick seems to be expecting huge things from JL this season. 1385305[/snapback] Yep. That's what signing Mike Anderson says. Big things from Jamal. Jamal, you're staying on my Jamal Lewis list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avernus Posted March 24, 2006 Share Posted March 24, 2006 Yep. That's what signing Mike Anderson says. Big things from Jamal. Jamal, you're staying on my Jamal Lewis list. 1386979[/snapback] Anderson will play mostly FB... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOO Posted March 24, 2006 Share Posted March 24, 2006 That's why I phrased my response like I did. Can't say that I thought it affected his overall conditioning either, but it certainly affected his speed. Exactly Cordo. He was not hitting the holes near as quickly last year and it was obvious. Haslett wanted him to bulk up to withstand the pounding better. From a Saints fan - depends on how his leg holds up, but they didn't sign Bennett for nothing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avernus Posted March 25, 2006 Share Posted March 25, 2006 Exactly Cordo. He was not hitting the holes near as quickly last year and it was obvious. Haslett wanted him to bulk up to withstand the pounding better. From a Saints fan - depends on how his leg holds up, but they didn't sign Bennett for nothing. 1387023[/snapback] another point I kept forgetting to mention.... he'll be a tremendous change of pace back ....as long as he doesn't have to start... but he won't hurt Deuce's value, IMO...I'm all for sharing time as long as my back doesn't forfiet the GL TD's and a great portion of the carries....just spell him a series here and there.... it's better for the back in the longrun....and anyone who has to rely on one player doesn't deserve to win and hasn't built up a good enough fantasy team... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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