Jackass Posted March 25, 2006 Share Posted March 25, 2006 Reggie Bush, 5-11, 200, Southern California Laurence Maroney, 5-11, 200, Minnesota DeAngelo Williams, 5-10, 205, Memphis (XL) LenDale White, 6-2, 225, Southern California Ok. LenDale is a big back but the other top rb's are all around the same size. I understand he wasnt used between the tackles a ton in college but perhaps his size is being overplayed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Posted March 25, 2006 Share Posted March 25, 2006 Reggie Bush, 5-11, 200, Southern CaliforniaLaurence Maroney, 5-11, 200, Minnesota DeAngelo Williams, 5-10, 205, Memphis (XL) LenDale White, 6-2, 225, Southern California Ok. LenDale is a big back but the other top rb's are all around the same size. I understand he wasnt used between the tackles a ton in college but perhaps his size is being overplayed? 1387899[/snapback] Sure, it is a little, but I think he can do what LT has done. I heard he put on about 8-10 pounds too. He will be versatile, making a great catch out of the backfield, a lot like LT. I think if Houston grabs him, improves their O line and plays Reggie with Dom they can see if he can carry the load alone. If he can't pair him with a bg back who can also block. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swiss Cheezhead Posted March 25, 2006 Share Posted March 25, 2006 This thread makes a lot more sense if you take your figures at face value. Since your numbers are wrong, though, it doesn't make much sense. D. Williams is 5-8 1/2, 215. He's not skinny at all. Maroney is now up to 217. It's all about "bulk". 200 lbs for a 5-11 kid is definitely on the skinny side for a RB. It would be decent size for a WR or a CB, not a 25-carry workhorse, which is the point of this discussion. Also, Bush has admitted that he's been trying to gain weight for a while with almost no success at all. He says his metabolism is just too fast, which makes sense considering the way the kid plays. He's a speed machine. Unfortunately, Bush probably won't get up to 215-220 until he's 27 or 28 and, by that time, some of his speed will be gone, too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGrunt Posted March 25, 2006 Share Posted March 25, 2006 This thread makes a lot more sense if you take your figures at face value. Since your numbers are wrong, though, it doesn't make much sense. D. Williams is 5-8 1/2, 215. He's not skinny at all. Maroney is now up to 217. It's all about "bulk". 200 lbs for a 5-11 kid is definitely on the skinny side for a RB. It would be decent size for a WR or a CB, not a 25-carry workhorse, which is the point of this discussion. Also, Bush has admitted that he's been trying to gain weight for a while with almost no success at all. He says his metabolism is just too fast, which makes sense considering the way the kid plays. He's a speed machine. Unfortunately, Bush probably won't get up to 215-220 until he's 27 or 28 and, by that time, some of his speed will be gone, too. 1387913[/snapback] I'd take insane speed over a few extra pounds any day. Just as long as the FB carried those extra pounds to pick up the blocking game. Anyone pay attention to Neal block for LT last year? That guy is an ideal blocking FB... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMD Posted March 25, 2006 Share Posted March 25, 2006 It is not how they compare to each other, but how the rookies compare to successful NFL tailbacks. Most teams prefer RBs around 220 because it gives them enough bulk for short yardage. Bush is more sized like Tiki Barber who is the same weight as Brian Westbrook. 2005 weights of NFL RBs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brentastic Posted March 25, 2006 Share Posted March 25, 2006 He's certainly no different than LT2, M. Faulk or Portis when they came out of college. I think those guys are doing fine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swiss Cheezhead Posted March 25, 2006 Share Posted March 25, 2006 If I were a GM, I don't think his size would affect where I drafted him -- just how I used him. Barber is one of the few exceptions of a light RB who can regularly handle 20 carries in a game. Westbrook isn't suited for it. LT has always been at least 215 (and 2 inches shorter), Portis is 215 now (and slightly shorter), and Faulk has always been around 210 (and he only had a couple of heavy-carry seasons, sprinkled with several seasons where he missed games). Bush just is NOT a workhorse back. That's what scouts are saying. He's still a high-impact player. With his receiving and return ability, he can change games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spain Posted March 25, 2006 Share Posted March 25, 2006 Am I the only guy who believes that DeAngelo Williams will be the best NFL rb in this draft class? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMD Posted March 25, 2006 Share Posted March 25, 2006 Am I the only guy who believes that DeAngelo Williams will be the best NFL rb in this draft class? 1387970[/snapback] A lot depends on where a player ends up and what their situation is. I have heard good things about DeAngleo but never have actually seen him play - just film clips (and everybody looks good in a film clip). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brentastic Posted March 25, 2006 Share Posted March 25, 2006 just film clips (and everybody looks good in a film clip). 1387975[/snapback] Oh, so you're saying that they don't go out of their way to show missed blocks and low-yardage runs in film clips Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
polksalet Posted March 25, 2006 Share Posted March 25, 2006 A lot depends on where a player ends up and what their situation is. I have heard good things about DeAngleo but never have actually seen him play - just film clips (and everybody looks good in a film clip). 1387975[/snapback] He will be either the second coming of Barry Sanders or Leland Mcelroy. My money is on Sanders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swiss Cheezhead Posted March 25, 2006 Share Posted March 25, 2006 Am I the only guy who believes that DeAngelo Williams will be the best NFL rb in this draft class? 1387970[/snapback] No. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
polksalet Posted March 25, 2006 Share Posted March 25, 2006 I would trade big Ben for him in a second. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOO Posted March 26, 2006 Share Posted March 26, 2006 I think Maroney is the best in this class myself. Bush is electric though (and Williams too for that matter). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
URLACHERisGOD Posted March 26, 2006 Share Posted March 26, 2006 tsk tsk You said "small bush" *giggle* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazysight Posted March 26, 2006 Share Posted March 26, 2006 Other than his brain I wouldn't say he's very small. Oh wait...are we talking about REGGIE Bush? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGrunt Posted March 26, 2006 Share Posted March 26, 2006 I dunno... there has never been a small RB who has made a career in the NFL. I mean look at Barry Sanders, he had to retire early! Haha, I'm just being facetious, don't mind me. Barry Sanders IS one of the best ever and I'm pretty sure if Reggie Bush gets on a team with the proper supporting cast he'll be up there too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackass Posted March 26, 2006 Author Share Posted March 26, 2006 I dunno... there has never been a small RB who has made a career in the NFL. I mean look at Barry Sanders, he had to retire early! Haha, I'm just being facetious, don't mind me. Barry Sanders IS one of the best ever and I'm pretty sure if Reggie Bush gets on a team with the proper supporting cast he'll be up there too. 1388072[/snapback] But Sanders never did score that much and thus was never a top fantasy back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Los Gigantes Posted March 26, 2006 Share Posted March 26, 2006 bush is the worst president ever!!! oh wait,... wrong forum someone on a board we won't mention calls him marshall faulk with a 5th gear. Is he really that good? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGrunt Posted March 26, 2006 Share Posted March 26, 2006 But Sanders never did score that much and thus was never a top fantasy back. 1388245[/snapback] Lets see: Year Yards TD 1989 1470 14 1990 1304 13 + 3 TD passing 1991 1548 16 + 1 TD passing 1992 1352 9 + 1 TD passing 1993 1115 3 1994 1883 7 + 1 TD passing 1995 1500 11 + 1 TD passing 1996 1553 11 1997 2053 11 + 3 TD passing 1998 1491 4 He might not have been the BEST RB fantasy-wise but he was also stuck on Detroit. Either way I would have taken him on my fantasy team, maybe not first though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swiss Cheezhead Posted March 26, 2006 Share Posted March 26, 2006 I think Maroney is the best in this class myself. Bush is electric though (and Williams too for that matter). 1388059[/snapback] What do you like so much about Maroney? Did you see those holes he ran through in college? I mean, in another zone-blocking system (Denver, Atlanta, Green Bay) he could be great, but otherwise, he's mediocre. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robash Posted March 26, 2006 Share Posted March 26, 2006 I dunno... there has never been a small RB who has made a career in the NFL. I mean look at Barry Sanders, he had to retire early! Haha, I'm just being facetious, don't mind me. Barry Sanders IS one of the best ever and I'm pretty sure if Reggie Bush gets on a team with the proper supporting cast he'll be up there too. 1388072[/snapback] your right dunn barber and thurman thomas were nothing spectacular Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOO Posted March 26, 2006 Share Posted March 26, 2006 What do you like so much about Maroney? Did you see those holes he ran through in college? I mean, in another zone-blocking system (Denver, Atlanta, Green Bay) he could be great, but otherwise, he's mediocre. To me he is an NFL back. He runs with power, has good speed, and didn't seem to get hit with solid licks. And yeah, he had a very good line, but that isn't his fault, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swiss Cheezhead Posted March 26, 2006 Share Posted March 26, 2006 To me he is an NFL back. He runs with power, has good speed, and didn't seem to get hit with solid licks. And yeah, he had a very good line, but that isn't his fault, right? 1388401[/snapback] Well, it's not really about assigning "fault", now is it? JJ Arrington ran through huge holes at Cal two years ago, too, and it wasn't his fault. My point is that I don't think Maroney will succeed as a RB who needs to create yards on his own. He's not all that fluid on the field, but he can make that first cut very nicely and explode straight ahead. He's a perfect back for a zone-blocking scheme. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chavez Posted March 26, 2006 Share Posted March 26, 2006 But Sanders never did score that much and thus was never a top fantasy back. 1388245[/snapback] Is being you like being high all the time? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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