Jackass Posted May 1, 2006 Share Posted May 1, 2006 Seeing his carries are going to be limited, he will not be used much at the goal line presumably, and with Deuce still on the roster and apparently not going anywhere anytime soon, what do you see as his max output of td's and yards, best case scenario in say 2 or 3 years? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Score 1 Posted May 1, 2006 Share Posted May 1, 2006 Seeing his carries are going to be limited, he will not be used much at the goal line presumably, and with Deuce still on the roster and apparently not going anywhere anytime soon, what do you see as his max output of td's and yards, best case scenario in say 2 or 3 years?1446611[/snapback] Best case scenario in 2 to 3 years for Bush would be a Top 5 RB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
godtomsatan Posted May 1, 2006 Share Posted May 1, 2006 Seeing his carries are going to be limited, he will not be used much at the goal line presumably, and with Deuce still on the roster and apparently not going anywhere anytime soon, what do you see as his max output of td's and yards, best case scenario in say 2 or 3 years? 1446611[/snapback] Best case says he's the best offensive player in the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGrunt Posted May 1, 2006 Share Posted May 1, 2006 Best case scenario in 2 to 3 years for Bush would be a Top 5 RB 1446631[/snapback] I agree, this might take him a couple of years to get to the top, and especially with FF leagues. I see him making some great plays this year and being a very productive player but I wonder how much of a TD man he will be this year? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yukon Cornelius Posted May 1, 2006 Share Posted May 1, 2006 I agree, this might take him a couple of years to get to the top, and especially with FF leagues. I see him making some great plays this year and being a very productive player but I wonder how much of a TD man he will be this year? 1446886[/snapback] 3 if hes lucky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Posted May 1, 2006 Share Posted May 1, 2006 I agree, this might take him a couple of years to get to the top, and especially with FF leagues. I see him making some great plays this year and being a very productive player but I wonder how much of a TD man he will be this year? 1446886[/snapback] He could put up and extra 3 or 4 kick rturn TD's as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGrunt Posted May 1, 2006 Share Posted May 1, 2006 (edited) 3 if hes lucky 1446888[/snapback] Sadly, that is actually possible. It's too bad, but I really think the Saints drafted pretty well this year and I'm hopeful this team starts to do much better in the next few years. He could put up and extra 3 or 4 kick rturn TD's as well. 1446895[/snapback] This is true. But where does one see him getting drafted in FF leagues now? This could make things very tricky for many people thinking of drafting him first overall. Edited May 1, 2006 by TheGrunt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Posted May 1, 2006 Share Posted May 1, 2006 Sadly, that is actually possible. It's too bad, but I really think the Saints drafted pretty well this year and I'm hopeful this team starts to do much better in the next few years.This is true. But where does one see him getting drafted in FF leagues now? This could make things very tricky for many people thinking of drafting him first overall. 1446897[/snapback] In redraft I would go the same as Cadillac last year(3rd round) but many may grab him in the 2nd. Keeper or rookie leagues would be higher. I am picking him #1 I think in keeper rookie draft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perchoutofwater Posted May 1, 2006 Share Posted May 1, 2006 How productive are most 3rd down backs? Add 25% because he is a little better than most and for is KR and PR abilities and there you have it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGrunt Posted May 1, 2006 Share Posted May 1, 2006 (edited) How productive are most 3rd down backs? Add 25% because he is a little better than most and for is KR and PR abilities and there you have it. 1446929[/snapback] It probably depends on the size of the back. Look at Mike Anderson last year sharing carries with Tatum Bell. So, if you consider Bell the 3rd down back, they don't do so well, but Anderson was a TD machine last year. Edit: But this IS the Broncos, so the TD's might be skewed a little higher than most other teams. Edited May 1, 2006 by TheGrunt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perchoutofwater Posted May 1, 2006 Share Posted May 1, 2006 It probably depends on the size of the back. Look at Mike Anderson last year sharing carries with Tatum Bell. So, if you consider Bell the 3rd down back, they don't do so well, but Anderson was a TD machine last year. Edit: But this IS the Broncos, so the TD's might be skewed a little higher than most other teams. 1446944[/snapback] In size, who does Bush resemble more, Mike Anderson, or Tinker Bell? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loyalboyd Posted May 1, 2006 Share Posted May 1, 2006 In size, who does Bush resemble more, Mike Anderson, or Tinker Bell? 1446950[/snapback] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGrunt Posted May 1, 2006 Share Posted May 1, 2006 In size, who does Bush resemble more, Mike Anderson, or Tinker Bell? 1446950[/snapback] Okay, but they are also two different RB's with much different talant. I still feel Bush will eventually become a very productive NFL RB, and hopefully a productive FF RB as well. It will be interesting to see how well he does on special teams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushwacked Posted May 1, 2006 Share Posted May 1, 2006 In size, who does Bush resemble more, Mike Anderson, or Tinker Bell? 1446950[/snapback] Tiki Barber. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackass Posted May 1, 2006 Author Share Posted May 1, 2006 Tiki Barber. 1446961[/snapback] what i don't really get is he is about barber's size and only 10 pounds smaller than faulk. yet the way people are talking you'd think he was a midget. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perchoutofwater Posted May 1, 2006 Share Posted May 1, 2006 Tiki Barber. 1446961[/snapback] what i don't really get is he is about barber's size and only 10 pounds smaller than faulk. yet the way people are talking you'd think he was a midget. 1447057[/snapback] And Tiki really wasn't a consistent performer until he had the right package around him. It wasn't until Shockey came aboard and made the safetys pay attention to the TE, that he really started to explode. Until the last two years, he was a middle of the road RB, with a fumbling problem. Do you spend the 1.1 or 1.2 on a guy that might end up being very productive in his 8th or 9th season, when you already have a very productive RB? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgcoach Posted May 1, 2006 Share Posted May 1, 2006 (edited) And Tiki really wasn't a consistent performer until he had the right package around him. It wasn't until Shockey came aboard and made the safetys pay attention to the TE, that he really started to explode. Until the last two years, he was a middle of the road RB, with a fumbling problem. Do you spend the 1.1 or 1.2 on a guy that might end up being very productive in his 8th or 9th season, when you already have a very productive RB? 1447069[/snapback] Granted, the face of the off. changed but so did his offseason conditioning. It wasn't as much the change of some players that took Tiki up a notch as it was his conditioning and workouts in the offseason. I've watched it firsthand and haven't seen anything else like it with the exception of P.Holmes. The man is posessed while working out. Edit to add: Natural talent and athletic ability will only take you so far, ala' Vick and a host of others. Edited May 1, 2006 by jgcoach Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGrunt Posted May 2, 2006 Share Posted May 2, 2006 what i don't really get is he is about barber's size and only 10 pounds smaller than faulk. yet the way people are talking you'd think he was a midget. 1447057[/snapback] Yeah, I doubt that. He's a big guy with a lot of talant. He will do just fine, everyone will see soon enough. I think the Saints had a great draft and I'll continue to say (unless the Saints prove me wrong next year) that they will have a huge year next year, at least compared to last year they will. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muck Posted May 2, 2006 Share Posted May 2, 2006 Bush will have some HUGH games ... and a bunch of games where nothing much happens. People will start him at all the wrong times all year long. He will get way over valued by someone in nearly every league. I wouldn't be surprised to see him get picked in the first round in more than a few redrafter leagues...and the sooner the draft the more likely it is that he'll be drafted too early (assuming Deuce is still healthy and on the team). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yitbos69 Posted May 2, 2006 Share Posted May 2, 2006 In size, who does Bush resemble more, Mike Anderson, or Tinker Bell? 1446950[/snapback] "Bush" has already been in the NFL for two years.......his name is Chris Perry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perchoutofwater Posted May 2, 2006 Share Posted May 2, 2006 "Bush" has already been in the NFL for two years.......his name is Chris Perry 1448000[/snapback] That is close to how he will be used, but Perry isn't is fast, however, Perry is much stronger. I really see Bush as the second coming of David Meggett. A pretty good 3rd down back and punt and kick off returner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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