irish Posted May 10, 2006 Share Posted May 10, 2006 (edited) Other than his good looks and huge guns, will Quinn go #1 next year and how good is he really? Edited May 10, 2006 by irish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darin3 Posted May 10, 2006 Share Posted May 10, 2006 Unless some RB comes out and has an out-of-this-world season, Quinn will undoubtedly be the top pick. There are going to be some baaaad teams out there that will desperately need a QB. Quinn has the pedigree, coaching and overall talent to be a very good NFL QB. If the Jets fall apart (as they very well could given their young coach, old RB and shaky QB situation), you KNOW Mangini would take the Weis-coached Quinn. Heck, the Jets may trade up to the #1 to get him regardless of their record. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chavez Posted May 10, 2006 Share Posted May 10, 2006 Unless some RB comes out and has an out-of-this-world season, Quinn will undoubtedly be the top pick. There are going to be some baaaad teams out there that will desperately need a QB. Quinn has the pedigree, coaching and overall talent to be a very good NFL QB. If the Jets fall apart (as they very well could given their young coach, old RB and shaky QB situation), you KNOW Mangini would take the Weis-coached Quinn. Heck, the Jets may trade up to the #1 to get him regardless of their record. 1459359[/snapback] Eh, two words: Matt Leinart. A lot can happen in a season. He shouldn't fall out of the top 10 though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jake_the_builder Posted May 10, 2006 Share Posted May 10, 2006 #1 pick, A.Peterson... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Swerski Posted May 10, 2006 Share Posted May 10, 2006 Unless some RB comes out and has an out-of-this-world season, Quinn will undoubtedly be the top pick. 1459359[/snapback] "Undoubtedly"? Since when is Quinn a lock to go #1? A lot can happen between now and next April. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
godtomsatan Posted May 10, 2006 Share Posted May 10, 2006 Unless some RB comes out and has an out-of-this-world season, Quinn will undoubtedly be the top pick. 1459359[/snapback] Uh, who? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Footballjoe Posted May 10, 2006 Share Posted May 10, 2006 A lot will depend on who has the #1 pick and their need. I do think he will be the #1 qb taken. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chavez Posted May 10, 2006 Share Posted May 10, 2006 Uh, who? 1459388[/snapback] Who was Mario Williams on 5/9/05? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jake_the_builder Posted May 10, 2006 Share Posted May 10, 2006 Who was Mario Williams on 5/9/05? 1459393[/snapback] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piratesownninjas Posted May 10, 2006 Share Posted May 10, 2006 If Quinn continues to progress and build on everything he did last year, he'll go 1, depending on the team drafting. Huge and accurate arm, big strong frame, tall, and a natural leader. That plus two years in quarterback coach god's system will only make you better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
godtomsatan Posted May 10, 2006 Share Posted May 10, 2006 (edited) If Quinn continues to progress and build on everything he did last year, he'll go 1, depending on the team drafting. Huge and accurate arm, big strong frame, tall, and a natural leader. That plus two years in quarterback coach god's system will only make you better. 1459399[/snapback] Matt Leinart? I mean, come on, Notre Dame isn't that good. Had a great game against USC last year on a schedule vs. a bunch of big programs having down years. It's an 8 win team in '06. Edited May 10, 2006 by godtomsatan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Posted May 10, 2006 Share Posted May 10, 2006 Who was Mario Williams on 5/9/05? 1459393[/snapback] Kiper top DE's a year ago. Mario isn't even listed but Lawson is. DEFENSE End 1. Mathias Kiwanuka, Boston College 2. Manny Lawson, NC State 3. Loren Howard, Northwestern 4. Parys Haralson, Tennessee 5. Darryl Tapp, Virginia Tech Top 10 seniors May 2005. TOP 10 SENIORS 1. Matt Leinart, QB, USC: A tremendously efficient quarterback who sees the entire field and makes good decisions with the ball. Leinart has excellent pocket awareness and is precise with his ball placement, allowing receivers to make the most of the catch. 2. D'Brickashaw Ferguson, OT, Virginia: The consummate left tackle. Ferguson has long arms and great position technique, which allow him to control defensive ends in pass protection and move them in run blocking. He could stand to add a little weight to his frame, but Ferguson has no other real deficiencies. 3. Chad Greenway, OLB, Iowa: A tough, aggressive player who has tremendous size for an outside linebacker. Greenway's athleticism and sideline-to-sideline speed allow him to get to the ball quickly, making him one of the most productive defensive players in the nation. 4. DeAngelo Williams, RB, Memphis: His great instincts, balance and feet allow him to get through traffic. Williams can catch the football out of the backfield as well as any back, something that contributed to more than 20 touchdowns last season. 5. A.J. Hawk, LB, Ohio State: A starter since the first game of his college career, Hawk is a rough, tough linebacker who does a great job locating the ball and getting to where the action is. 6. Marcus McNeill, OT, Auburn: An enormous bookend, McNeill is 6-foot-8, 340 pounds, and can totally eliminate defensive linemen. His combination of size and athleticism is impressive. 7. Eric Winston, OT, Miami: The former tight end has turned himself into an impressive left tackle prospect. If Winston can recover successfully from a knee injury suffered last season, he has a chance to be a great offensive lineman. 8. Mathias Kiwanuka, DE, Boston College: One of the most productive ends in the country last season. Kiwanuka has tremendous natural ability and pass-rush instincts, and if he can become more consistent from game to game and series to series, he will only get better. 9. Rodrique Wright, DT, Texas: Started as a freshman and has been a force at times along the interior. Wright is another lineman, though, who needs to develop more consistency to maximize his potential. 10. Jimmy Williams, CB, Virginia Tech: A former safety who moved to corner last season, Williams has a rare combination of size and speed. His 6-2½, 215-pound frame is a great tool against big wideouts, and Williams can make plays in coverage and run support. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goopster24 Posted May 10, 2006 Share Posted May 10, 2006 What was Brady Quinn before Charlie Weiss? A bust in lots of people's opinions. He needs the right system to play in the NFL; of course, we could say that for a lot of players. He will be the best quarterback coming out, no doubt about that but the question is whether or not he can play in the NFL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darin3 Posted May 10, 2006 Share Posted May 10, 2006 "Undoubtedly"? Since when is Quinn a lock to go #1? A lot can happen between now and next April. 1459370[/snapback] Not that we give them 100% credence, but the folks on ESPN sure thought Quinn would be the #1 in '07. Franchise QBs are tough to pass on. Quinn is no Matt Leinart. What was Brady Quinn before Charlie Weiss? A bust in lots of people's opinions. He needs the right system to play in the NFL; of course, we could say that for a lot of players. He will be the best quarterback coming out, no doubt about that but the question is whether or not he can play in the NFL. 1459525[/snapback] A bust? Not quite. He was young and raw, but had promise. Weis has shined n' buffed him up real good. --- I've seen several mocks with the Niners getting the #1 pick; in which case they'd probably take Peterson... and Buffalo at #2, taking Quinn. That makes sense. But if for some reason Buffalo were to get the #1, they'd probably still take Quinn. Bottom line, he's easily the best QB prospect for '07. BY FAR... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragon Posted May 10, 2006 Share Posted May 10, 2006 will Quinn go #1 next year and how good is he really? 1459354[/snapback] Yes. Very, very good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loyalboyd Posted May 10, 2006 Share Posted May 10, 2006 Not that we give them 100% credence, but the folks on ESPN sure thought Quinn would be the #1 in '07. Franchise QBs are tough to pass on. Quinn is no Matt Leinart. A bust? Not quite. He was young and raw, but had promise. Weis has shined n' buffed him up real good. --- I've seen several mocks with the Niners getting the #1 pick; in which case they'd probably take Peterson... and Buffalo at #2, taking Quinn. That makes sense. But if for some reason Buffalo were to get the #1, they'd probably still take Quinn. Bottom line, he's easily the best QB prospect for '07. BY FAR... 1459625[/snapback] This I hope happens because those 2 picks alone will turn around those franchises like no other. But 49ers need a RB bad unless Gore does it. Personally, I believe they are a RB away from contention of a 8-8 team. I believe they have done alot to make their team better. 2 yrs from now we might see the 9ers and Titans making a bid for the playoffs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Swerski Posted May 10, 2006 Share Posted May 10, 2006 Not that we give them 100% credence, but the folks on ESPN sure thought Quinn would be the #1 in '07. Franchise QBs are tough to pass on. Bottom line, he's easily the best QB prospect for '07. BY FAR... 1459625[/snapback] Agreed with that last part, but the "experts" at ESPN are often pretty clueless. There are a lot of factors other than talent that determine where a player is drafted. If the #1 pick doesn't happen to need a QB and doesn't want to trade down (e.g., Houston), Quinn's automatically not the #1 pick next year. That's completely beyond his control. Some players slip down for no apparent reason. Did anyone earlier this year think that Leinart would slip all of the way to #10? That said, if Quinn has another good season, I'd be surprised if he wasn't a Top 5 pick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wcd480 Posted May 10, 2006 Share Posted May 10, 2006 Kiper top DE's a year ago. Mario isn't even listed but Lawson is. Top 10 seniors May 2005. TOP 10 SENIORS 1. Matt Leinart, QB, USC: 2. D'Brickashaw Ferguson, OT, Virginia: 3. Chad Greenway, OLB, Iowa: 4. DeAngelo Williams, RB, Memphis: 5. A.J. Hawk, LB, Ohio State: 6. Marcus McNeill, OT, Auburn: 7. Eric Winston, OT, Miami: 8. Mathias Kiwanuka, DE, Boston College: 9. Rodrique Wright, DT, Texas: 10. Jimmy Williams, CB, Virginia Tech: 1459435[/snapback] 1. Matt Leinart, QB, USC: 1st round 10th overall - 9 picks off 2. D'Brickashaw Ferguson, OT, Virginia: 1st round 4th overall - 2 picks off 3. Chad Greenway, OLB, Iowa: 1st round 17th overall - 14 picks off 4. DeAngelo Williams, RB, Memphis: 1st round 27th overall - 23 picks off 5. A.J. Hawk, LB, Ohio State: 1st round 5th overall - 0 picks off 6. Marcus McNeill, OT, Auburn: 2nd round 50th overall - 44 picks off 7. Eric Winston, OT, Miami: 3rd round 66th overall - 59 picks off 8. Mathias Kiwanuka, DE, Boston College: 1st round 32nd overall - 24 picks off 9. Rodrique Wright, DT, Texas: Miami 7th round 226th overall - 217 picks off 10. Jimmy Williams, CB, Virginia Tech: 2nd round 37th overall - 27 picks off Kiper was only off by an average of 41.9 picks per player. 24.2 if you don't count Leinart (who everyone though was number one at that time) and Wright who just skews things a ton just because he was so far off. Yep, Kiper is a genius Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goopster24 Posted May 10, 2006 Share Posted May 10, 2006 (edited) 1. Matt Leinart, QB, USC: 1st round 10th overall - 9 picks off2. D'Brickashaw Ferguson, OT, Virginia: 1st round 4th overall - 2 picks off 3. Chad Greenway, OLB, Iowa: 1st round 17th overall - 14 picks off 4. DeAngelo Williams, RB, Memphis: 1st round 27th overall - 23 picks off 5. A.J. Hawk, LB, Ohio State: 1st round 5th overall - 0 picks off 6. Marcus McNeill, OT, Auburn: 2nd round 50th overall - 44 picks off 7. Eric Winston, OT, Miami: 3rd round 66th overall - 59 picks off 8. Mathias Kiwanuka, DE, Boston College: 1st round 32nd overall - 24 picks off 9. Rodrique Wright, DT, Texas: Miami 7th round 226th overall - 217 picks off 10. Jimmy Williams, CB, Virginia Tech: 2nd round 37th overall - 27 picks off Kiper was only off by an average of 41.9 picks per player. 24.2 if you don't count Leinart (who everyone though was number one at that time) and Wright who just skews things a ton just because he was so far off. Yep, Kiper is a genius 1460356[/snapback] You need to realize that these rankings you gave are ones for just seniors and not the draft in general. These rankings should be off. Edited May 10, 2006 by Goopster24 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theprofessor Posted May 11, 2006 Share Posted May 11, 2006 Unless some RB comes out and has an out-of-this-world season, Quinn will undoubtedly be the top pick. There are going to be some baaaad teams out there that will desperately need a QB. Quinn has the pedigree, coaching and overall talent to be a very good NFL QB. If the Jets fall apart (as they very well could given their young coach, old RB and shaky QB situation), you KNOW Mangini would take the Weis-coached Quinn. Heck, the Jets may trade up to the #1 to get him regardless of their record. 1459359[/snapback] Two Words ....................................... Kellen Clemens Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTen Posted May 11, 2006 Share Posted May 11, 2006 Yep, Kiper is a genius 1460356[/snapback] Well, he is getting paid millions for talking about what we talk about here, and we pay to do it. I guess he is a genius! KNow what I mean? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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