Randall Posted May 12, 2006 Share Posted May 12, 2006 No, there are many others I would hope get in first like Art Monk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duchess Jack Posted May 12, 2006 Share Posted May 12, 2006 chances are probably slightly less than 50/50 1465099[/snapback] something like 40/40? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexgaddis Posted May 12, 2006 Share Posted May 12, 2006 something like 40/40? 1465377[/snapback] I would say about 25/36 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swiss Cheezhead Posted May 12, 2006 Share Posted May 12, 2006 Just as long as Monk gets in first, Jimmy can be admitted. 1465229[/snapback] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Irish Doggy Posted May 12, 2006 Share Posted May 12, 2006 I can't be held down by such arbitrary yes and no choices. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azazello1313 Posted May 12, 2006 Share Posted May 12, 2006 something like 40/40? 1465377[/snapback] whatever you say, yogi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Swerski Posted May 12, 2006 Share Posted May 12, 2006 (edited) 116 catches for 1636 yards doesn't do it for ya, huh? 1465108[/snapback] One year's worth of incredible stats doesn't make a HOFer. Who are you? Jimmy's coke dealer? Edited May 12, 2006 by Bill Swerski Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clubfoothead Posted May 12, 2006 Share Posted May 12, 2006 something like 40/40? 1465377[/snapback] depends on if thecerwin is doing the math or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donutrun Jellies Posted May 12, 2006 Share Posted May 12, 2006 Good player, some great spells, never dominant or prominent. No HoF ... but worthy of Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loyalboyd Posted May 12, 2006 Share Posted May 12, 2006 Hate 2 say but may take 15 yrs for him to get in at this rate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revhookem Posted May 12, 2006 Share Posted May 12, 2006 As I said in another thread on this same subject, he has the #s... but the NFL HOF, unlike the MLB HOF, is not all about #s. I don't think he makes it - and there is no comparison between him and Irvin, who has 3 SB rings (as a non-biased Dallas homer ). I don't think, as someone suggested, that it hurt Smith to be quiet and professional (as cp. to TO, Chad, Irvin, etc) -- but it hurts him that he played on largely less-than-stellar teams, and that he was not the kind of WR that struck fear in the hearts of opponents. Extremely good, yes - and I'd have loved for him to have stayed in Dallas... but HOF, no. Close, but not quite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
broncosn05 Posted May 12, 2006 Share Posted May 12, 2006 More catches than any WR currently in the Hall? (Well, that will change soon...). But heck, if Art Monk is not in... Jimmy Smith? I voted yes, btw... thinking Monk will eventually get in, and Smith may slip in at some point. 1465067[/snapback] +1 one in a big way agree with everything you said but with the year he retired he should be a lock because not many big names hung up the cleats this year IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaxfactor Posted May 12, 2006 Share Posted May 12, 2006 Hate 2 say but may take 15 yrs for him to get in at this rate. 1465679[/snapback] I agree, but in 15 years there may be alot more on the list with similar or better stats. Remember the rules have changed so CBs don't have the same freedoms they used to have when lining up against WRs. The NFL has become more pass-friendly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chavez Posted May 12, 2006 Share Posted May 12, 2006 As I said in another thread on this same subject, he has the #s... but the NFL HOF, unlike the MLB HOF, is not all about #s. I don't think he makes it - and there is no comparison between him and Irvin, who has 3 SB rings (as a non-biased Dallas homer ). I don't think, as someone suggested, that it hurt Smith to be quiet and professional (as cp. to TO, Chad, Irvin, etc) -- but it hurts him that he played on largely less-than-stellar teams, and that he was not the kind of WR that struck fear in the hearts of opponents. 1465693[/snapback] I think Jimmy Smith DID strike fear into opponents. I love the crap out of Smith, but Hall of Fame? I don't know, he just seems to be lacking some je nais sais qua. I guess I think Henry Ellard belongs, and his numbers are comparable to Ellard's. By the same token, I STRONGLY believe his career was played at a time when offensive stats became highly inflated (check out the # of 1000 yd rushers compared to the 80s; 1000 yd WRs and 4000 yd passers are completely through the roof). I'd guess that he gets put on the back burner until guys who are no-brainers from the same era, like Harrison, Moss, and Torry Holt are done to compare apples-to-apples. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piratesownninjas Posted May 13, 2006 Share Posted May 13, 2006 Michael Irvin, Art Monk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainHook Posted May 13, 2006 Share Posted May 13, 2006 If you had to choose one, who would be in the Hall of Fame: Jimmy Smith OR Dan Pastorini? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brentastic Posted May 13, 2006 Share Posted May 13, 2006 I say yes. If a blowhard like Irvin can get in, so should Smith. 1464987[/snapback] Yeah, but Irvin's got rings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piratesownninjas Posted May 13, 2006 Share Posted May 13, 2006 Yeah, but Irvin's got rings. 1466279[/snapback] three of them. If Aikman can get in, why doesnt Irvin. Its not Troy put up amazing stats... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TDFFFreak Posted May 13, 2006 Share Posted May 13, 2006 Irvin didn't get in. 1465068[/snapback] He will. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billay Posted May 13, 2006 Share Posted May 13, 2006 (edited) I'll echo the Art Monk sentiments. Art was my boy! And a class act if ever there was one... Edited May 13, 2006 by billay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Score 1 Posted May 13, 2006 Author Share Posted May 13, 2006 Jimmy Smith +--------------------------+ Receiving +----------+-----+-------------------------+| Year TM | G | Rec Yards Y/R TD |+----------+-----+-------------------------+| 1992 dal | 7 | 0 0 0.0 0 || 1994 phi | 1 | 0 0 0.0 0 || 1995 jax | 16 | 22 288 13.1 3 || 1996 jax | 16 | 83 1244 15.0 7 || 1997 jax | 16 | 82 1324 16.1 4 || 1998 jax | 16 | 78 1182 15.2 8 || 1999 jax | 16 | 116 1636 14.1 6 || 2000 jax | 15 | 91 1213 13.3 8 || 2001 jax | 16 | 112 1373 12.3 8 || 2002 jax | 16 | 80 1027 12.8 7 || 2003 jax | 12 | 54 805 14.9 4 || 2004 jax | 16 | 74 1172 15.8 6 || 2005 jax | 16 | 70 1023 14.6 6 |+----------+-----+-------------------------+| TOTAL | 179 | 862 12287 14.3 67 |+----------+-----+-------------------------+ Isaac Bruce +-------------------------+ Receiving +----------+-----+-------------------------+| Year TM | G | Rec Yards Y/R TD |+----------+-----+-------------------------+| 1994 ram | 12 | 21 272 13.0 3 || 1995 ram | 16 | 119 1781 15.0 13 || 1996 ram | 16 | 84 1338 15.9 7 || 1997 ram | 12 | 56 815 14.6 5 || 1998 ram | 5 | 32 457 14.3 1 || 1999 ram | 16 | 77 1165 15.1 12 || 2000 ram | 16 | 87 1471 16.9 9 || 2001 ram | 16 | 64 1106 17.3 6 || 2002 ram | 16 | 79 1075 13.6 7 || 2003 ram | 15 | 69 981 14.2 5 || 2004 ram | 16 | 89 1292 14.5 6 || 2005 ram | 11 | 36 525 14.6 3 |+----------+-----+-------------------------+| TOTAL | 167 | 813 12278 15.1 77 |+----------+-----+-------------------------+ If Jimmy Smith gets in, then Isaac Bruce is a stone cold, lead pipe lock to get in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Swerski Posted May 13, 2006 Share Posted May 13, 2006 If Jimmy Smith gets in, then Isaac Bruce is a stone cold, lead pipe lock to get in. 1466859[/snapback] Bruce will get in (assuming he plays for another two or three seasons), but it probably won't be on the first ballot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azazello1313 Posted May 13, 2006 Share Posted May 13, 2006 If Jimmy Smith gets in, then Isaac Bruce is a stone cold, lead pipe lock to get in. 1466859[/snapback] assuming bruce just has another 500 or so yard season and then retires, i don't see how he's jumps ahead of smith in the queue. i'd see them about even. bruce was one of those guys who benefitted ENORMOUSLY from the system he played in, especially 1999-2002 or so. the jags had some decent offenses for a few years there as well, but nothing like the 1999 rams. and statistically bruce still hasn't even caught jimmy yet in receptions or yards. i don't see how you put one guy "clearly" ahead of the other. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainHook Posted May 13, 2006 Share Posted May 13, 2006 and statistically bruce still hasn't even caught jimmy yet in receptions or yards. i don't see how you put one guy "clearly" ahead of the other. 1467148[/snapback] He's 9 yards behind. He has 10 more touchdowns. He has a higher YPC. He won a Super Bowl. He's not retired yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Swerski Posted May 13, 2006 Share Posted May 13, 2006 assuming bruce just has another 500 or so yard season and then retires, i don't see how he's jumps ahead of smith in the queue. i'd see them about even. bruce was one of those guys who benefitted ENORMOUSLY from the system he played in, especially 1999-2002 or so. the jags had some decent offenses for a few years there as well, but nothing like the 1999 rams. and statistically bruce still hasn't even caught jimmy yet in receptions or yards. i don't see how you put one guy "clearly" ahead of the other. 1467148[/snapback] Um, yeah, I think that Bruce can manage 500 yards this season. Consider also that Bruce has a 119/1781/13 season under his belt (with Chris freaking Miller throwing him the ball) and caught the winning TD in a Super Bowl. Right or wrong, the latter point means a lot in the eyes of voters. Your Jimmy Smith knob-slobbing is laughable. If he hadn't been a complete pu$$y during the first three years of his career or quit while he was still productive, he might've actually had a chance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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