Clubfoothead Posted May 15, 2006 Share Posted May 15, 2006 Bobby Carpenter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whiskey Pimp Posted May 15, 2006 Share Posted May 15, 2006 http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/060512/to244.html?.v=29WHO WILL WIN 2006-07 AP NFL OFFENSIVE ROOKIE OF THE YEAR -------------------------------------------------------- Santonio Holmes 5-1 Chad Jackson 50-1 1467211[/snapback] Am I missing something here? How is Holmes so much higher than Jackson? Did the The only 6 time Super Bowl Winners and YOUR DADDY become a high powered passing offense all of a sudden? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duchess Jack Posted May 15, 2006 Share Posted May 15, 2006 How about Derek Hagan at 30-1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riffraff Posted May 15, 2006 Author Share Posted May 15, 2006 Am I missing something here? How is Holmes so much higher than Jackson? Did the The only 6 time Super Bowl Winners and YOUR DADDY become a high powered passing offense all of a sudden? 1469370[/snapback] Nope, but a few things: Holmes is much more polished than Jackson. Jackson was a combine riser, Holmes was ready for the NFL. Steelers have Cedric Wilson to beat out for playing time. Randle El moved on. New England has a new free agent in Caldwell and a returning veteran in Brown. New England spreads the ball around alot more than Pittsburgh does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whiskey Pimp Posted May 15, 2006 Share Posted May 15, 2006 Nope, but a few things: Holmes is much more polished than Jackson. Jackson was a combine riser, Holmes was ready for the NFL. Steelers have Cedric Wilson to beat out for playing time. Randle El moved on. New England has a new free agent in Caldwell and a returning veteran in Brown. New England spreads the ball around alot more than Pittsburgh does. 1470110[/snapback] OK so maybe CJ2 stays at 50-1 but Holmes as 5-1 in THAT offense? No way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riffraff Posted May 15, 2006 Author Share Posted May 15, 2006 OK so maybe CJ2 stays at 50-1 but Holmes as 5-1 in THAT offense? No way. 1470144[/snapback] Also of note, the Holmes odds are a suckers bet. But lots of bandwagon Steeler fans will bet on him since they are the Champions. People are weird like that when homerism or defending champions are involved. Can't explain how people think sometimes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhino Posted May 16, 2006 Share Posted May 16, 2006 woooh wooooh, Here comes the clue train, last stop: YouMario Williams=Defense. 1469068[/snapback] Must get sleep. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forever in debt to mo lewis Posted May 16, 2006 Share Posted May 16, 2006 Nope, but a few things: Holmes is much more polished than Jackson. Jackson was a combine riser, Holmes was ready for the NFL. Steelers have Cedric Wilson to beat out for playing time. Randle El moved on. New England has a new free agent in Caldwell and a returning veteran in Brown. New England spreads the ball around alot more than Pittsburgh does. 1470110[/snapback] jackson is just a combine riser?...the guy caught 88 balls last year in a new, and somewhat complicated,offensive system....the guy earned fantastic reviews from his coach about his willingness to learn the offense and improve cmon man...just a combine riser? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goopster24 Posted May 16, 2006 Share Posted May 16, 2006 jackson is just a combine riser?...the guy caught 88 balls last year in a new, and somewhat complicated,offensive system....the guy earned fantastic reviews from his coach about his willingness to learn the offense and improve cmon man...just a combine riser? 1471859[/snapback] Jackson was definitely labeled a combine riser because his numbers were awesome. He basically has only one year of starting expereince and he didn't always give it is all on the field. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forever in debt to mo lewis Posted May 16, 2006 Share Posted May 16, 2006 Jackson was definitely labeled a combine riser because his numbers were awesome. He basically has only one year of starting expereince and he didn't always give it is all on the field. 1471966[/snapback] i dont think jacksons draft stock was strictly based off of combine numbers....it was coupled with the fact that he showed dramatic improvement and matured under meyer...he had some problems with meyer early on and basically understood meyer was trying to turn him into the best player he could be...and jackson improved that and the fact that jackson showed the ability to play on the the outside and could work the slot and middle of the field...hell jackson only caught 29 balls as a sophomore...but racked up over 600 yards...at about 22 yards a catch....then he showed his junior year he could thrive in a more disciplined offense i just think the notion that holmes is more "polished" is kind of stupid...holmes basically fit what the steelers were looking for...a randle el type who could work in the slot...jackson fit what the patriots lost on the outside in david givens Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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