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Great news for Chambers-Brown-McMicheal owner and Dolphin fans

 

 

 

Dolphins | Culpepper looks super

Tue, 16 May 2006 11:18:44 -0700

 

According to John Czarnecki of FOXSports.com, Miami Dolphins QB Daunte Culpepper (knee) appears to be ahead on his rehabilitation and could be ready for the start of training camp. He may not be ready for a full workload, but he should be ready to participate in most drills. Word from Miami is that he looks "super."

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Last weekend, Saban said Culpepper received an ''A-plus'' review from Dr. James Andrews after a checkup on his surgically repaired right knee.

 

Saban and others in the organization have expressed an increasingly stronger sense of confidence that Culpepper will be able to start in the season opener Sept. 7 in Pittsburgh.

 

But while there is room for optimism, knee injuries often have setbacks, according to two surgeons who have done the procedure in the past. Thus, the Dolphins might not have a complete sense of when Culpepper, who tore three ligaments, will be ready to play until after the start of training camp July 28.

 

 

 

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It is 3 ligaments and it is football we are talking about.

 

They are going to take their time bringing him back in my opinion. To them next season with a healthy Culp. is more important than this one. Winning the Superbowl is their goal, not helping fantasy fans, after all.

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Great news for Chambers-Brown-McMicheal owner and Dolphin fans

Dolphins | Culpepper looks super

Tue, 16 May 2006 11:18:44 -0700

 

According to John Czarnecki of FOXSports.com, Miami Dolphins QB Daunte Culpepper (knee) appears to be ahead on his rehabilitation and could be ready for the start of training camp. He may not be ready for a full workload, but he should be ready to participate in most drills. Word from Miami is that he looks "super."

 

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Harrington will start (and ruin) the dolphins season in 2006. :D

 

Dante will play the 2nd half most likely, but itll be too late and they might have given up on the season, so they just might let Dante heal more and sit him all year.

 

Oh the poor fishes...

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Just because he "may" get back on the field does not mean he learned how to read defenses and hold on to the ball! (See first half of 05 season)

 

He will need at least a year to TRUST his knee. I do not expect anything out of him this year. I hope someone in one of my leagues drafts him in the first 6 rounds!!

 

PS not the ravings of a bitter Viqueen fan... just a blown ACL/MCL alumni!

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If he were a RB, I'd be really worried.  But being  a QB, I think he can have an effective season in 2006.

 

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He's not a pocket QB. He's a mobile QB that made a living scrambling. He needs his knee as much as an RB does, so I'd disagree with your assessment.

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Harrington will start (and ruin) the dolphins season in 2006. :D

 

Dante will play the 2nd half most likely, but itll be too late and they might have given up on the season, so they just might let Dante heal more and sit him all year.

 

Oh the poor fishes...

 

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This Dolphins team does not 'give up on the season' see the 2005 season.

 

((Remember 3-1st Quarter TDs + a safety < 3-4th Quarter TDs + a field goal))

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It is 3 ligaments and it is football we are talking about.

 

They are going to take their time bringing him back in my opinion. To them next season with a healthy Culp. is more important than this one. Winning the Superbowl is their goal, not helping fantasy fans, after all.

 

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I'll say it again, the Dolphins will NEVER win a super bowl with Daunte as their starter

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He's not a pocket QB. He's a mobile QB that made a living scrambling. He needs his knee as much as an RB does, so I'd disagree with your assessment.

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Well, I disagree with you :D

 

Seriously though, the reason I disagree is because I don't see him being a running QB like Vick for instance. I guess what I'm trying to say is although he is grouped with "running QBs" I think he is more of a pocket passer. Not counting last year when he only played 7 games, he has only had one season as a starter where he did NOT throw for 3500+ yards. If this were Michael Vick who had the knee injury, I would agree with you but I view C-Pep as more of a pocket passer even though he does generally add 400 yards running per season. His rushing TDs have certainly decreased over the last several years but his passing numbers are always steady and tops in the league.

 

Now when you look at M. Vick you will see slightly higher rushing yardage on a yearly basis. He's going to put up between 600-900 yards yearly and has only had one season where he's thrown for more than 2500 yards. That's the number I'm looking at when trying to decipher who is and isn't a "true" running QB.

 

If you look at D. McNabb, he's another player I see more in the C-pep mold. Yes, he has been successful running and labeled as a running QB but he has also proved that he can get it done in the air. He also averages around 3500+ passing yards per season.

 

So, in summation: Michael Vick needs to run to have success. Culpepper does not need to run to have success.

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Well, I disagree with you  :D

 

Seriously though, the reason I disagree is because I don't see him being a running QB like Vick for instance.  I guess what I'm trying to say is although he is grouped with "running QBs" I think he is more of a pocket passer.  Not counting last year when he only played 7 games, he has only had one season as a starter where he did NOT throw for 3500+ yards. If this were Michael Vick who had the knee injury, I would agree with you but I view C-Pep as more of a pocket passer even though he does generally add 400 yards running per season.  His rushing TDs have certainly decreased over the last several years but his passing numbers are always steady and tops in the league.

 

Now when you look at M. Vick you will see slightly higher rushing yardage on a yearly basis.  He's going to put up between 600-900 yards yearly and has only had one season where he's thrown for more than 2500 yards.  That's the number I'm looking at when trying to decipher who is and isn't a "true" running QB.

 

If you look at D. McNabb, he's another player I see more in the C-pep mold.  Yes, he has been successful running and labeled as a running QB but he has also proved that he can get it done in the air.  He also averages around 3500+ passing yards per season.

 

So, in summation:  Michael Vick needs to run to have success.  Culpepper does not need to run to have success.

 

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I don't think the amount of passing yards have anything to do with what determines if a QB needs to run or not, the amount of rushing yards he has determines that, and CPep has historically had about 400 yards/season, which is a lot if you compare it to pocket QB's like Manning who rushes for 5.2 yards/game :D, or Bledsoe who rushes for 3.9 yards/game :D.

 

Two things made CPep succesful in Minnesota, his scrambling opened up passing opportunities, and he had Randy Moss. If he's gimpy, he'll have neither in MIA, and don't even compare Chamber to Moss.

 

Anywho, in summation, I still disagree with you. :D

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Just to keep this little disagreement between 2 fantasy gurus going, I'd like to add another thing.

 

The passing yards do matter because it is part of the overall equation. I like to look at the overall production and what % of that production comes from running.

 

When you do the math, 11% of Daunte's career production comes from running. Whereas 24% of Vick's career production is the result of running. Now compare both of those with the ultimate pocket passer P. Manning. 2% of Manning's productioin has come from running.

 

What do all these numbers tell us? Fuch if I know :D

 

Edit to add: These numbers are a result of yardage production. TDs were not factored into the equation, which is a slight oversight by me.

 

I don't think the amount of passing yards have anything to do with what determines if a QB needs to run or not, the amount of rushing yards he has determines that, and CPep has historically had about 400 yards/season, which is a lot if you compare it to pocket QB's like Manning who rushes for 5.2 yards/game :D, or Bledsoe who rushes for 3.9 yards/game :D.

 

Two things made CPep succesful in Minnesota, his scrambling opened up passing opportunities, and he had Randy Moss. If he's gimpy, he'll have neither in MIA, and don't even compare Chamber to Moss.

 

Anywho, in summation, I still disagree with you. :D

 

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Harrington will start (and ruin) the dolphins season in 2006. :D

 

Dante will play the 2nd half most likely, but itll be too late and they might have given up on the season, so they just might let Dante heal more and sit him all year.

 

Oh the poor fishes...

 

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Is this guy being serious? :D

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News Flash: Duante is a terrible QB with or without knees, and I've been saying that for years.

 

Double News Flash: NO player has EVER popped all three knee ligaments in one season and come back to not miss a beat the next.

 

Peace

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News Flash:  Duante is a terrible QB with or without knees, and I've been saying that for years.

 

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Yeah, and the Lions are gonna be good this year, right? Because you've been saying that for years too.

 

His career completion % is better than Peyton Manning. He threw for 4700 yards, 39 TD's and 11 INT's in '04. Aside from the fact that he was the Vikes QB that's thrown a beating into your Lions for the past 7 years, what makes him terrible? Does he fumble? Yes. Does he make mental mistakes? Yes. Is he a "terrible" QB? Not even close.

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This Dolphins team does not 'give up on the season' see the 2005 season.

 

((Remember 3-1st Quarter TDs + a safety < 3-4th Quarter TDs + a field goal))

 

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You are reffering to a horribly coached Buffalo team. Im GLAD we lost that game, no matter HOW embarrasing. It got us a higher draft pick and got us who we wanted.

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