Perchoutofwater Posted May 22, 2006 Share Posted May 22, 2006 For years I've said McNappy is over-rated. This year, I think he may be a little under-rated. People seem to have forgotten that he was a top 3 QB the two years before he got TO. I think that he may be a steal in the mid rounds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMD Posted May 22, 2006 Share Posted May 22, 2006 It depends on the scoring system you use, but the "Huddle Standard" has McNabb as #3 with TO in 2004 but then: 2003 - 13th 2002 - 11th 2001 - 8th 2000 - 5th In 2000, he ranked so high because he also had 629 rushing yards and six rushing touchdowns. He does not run anywhere near that much anymore, much less coming off an injury. In 2001, he had 3233/25 TD passing and 482 rushing with 2 more TDs. But without TO, he has really only been a marginal FF QB who in his best season was 5th - or about average in a league of 12. Without TO, he has never thrown for more than 3365 yards in a season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Posted May 22, 2006 Share Posted May 22, 2006 Who are your top 5, if we can get a slight preview. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMD Posted May 22, 2006 Share Posted May 22, 2006 Who are your top 5, if we can get a slight preview. 1482065[/snapback] I am still wrapping up "the process" as it were. Manning = 1 then a grouping led by Mr. AllWorld, "the other one", "No relation to Arnold" and then Tim's brother. But it is hardly finalized quite yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Posted May 23, 2006 Share Posted May 23, 2006 I am still wrapping up "the process" as it were. Manning = 1 then a grouping led by Mr. AllWorld, "the other one", "No relation to Arnold" and then Tim's brother. But it is hardly finalized quite yet. 1482095[/snapback] Brady and Hasselbeck? Good choices. I was curious about your top 5. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goopster24 Posted May 23, 2006 Share Posted May 23, 2006 I think McNabb can be a top 10 quarterback this year. He was solid before Owens and many expect Reggie Brown to take into his own this year. He is better than any of the other receivers the Eagles have had besides Owens. I love him to death but I still wouldn't take a quarterback as early as I have seen McNabb being taken in some mock drafts lately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PantherDave Posted May 23, 2006 Share Posted May 23, 2006 I am still wrapping up "the process" as it were. Manning = 1 then a grouping led by Mr. AllWorld, "the other one", "No relation to Arnold" and then Tim's brother. But it is hardly finalized quite yet. 1482095[/snapback] So, your off the cusp five is... 1-PManning 2-Brady 3-EManning 4-Palmer 5-Hasselbeck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMD Posted May 23, 2006 Share Posted May 23, 2006 I did not say that. Not actually. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spain Posted May 23, 2006 Share Posted May 23, 2006 I did not say that. Not actually. 1482219[/snapback] When compiling your rankings, lets not forget about that QB that single handedly gave the Longhorns their first national championship in 30 years... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Posted May 23, 2006 Share Posted May 23, 2006 When compiling your rankings, lets not forget about that QB that single handedly gave the Longhorns their first national championship in 30 years... 1482254[/snapback] You mean the guy running the option? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMD Posted May 23, 2006 Share Posted May 23, 2006 When compiling your rankings, lets not forget about that QB that single handedly gave the Longhorns their first national championship in 30 years... 1482254[/snapback] Oh yes, he is definitely there. May have to scroll a bit to get there, but he is definitely there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Holliday Posted May 23, 2006 Share Posted May 23, 2006 You mean the guy running the option? 1482259[/snapback] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avernus Posted May 23, 2006 Share Posted May 23, 2006 So, your off the cusp five is... 1-PManning 2-Brady 3-EManning 4-Palmer 5-Hasselbeck 1482198[/snapback] I like all of this except Hasselbeck... McNabb can be justified as a top 5.... he's slimmed down tremendously and I think he'll run more if he has to.....he has more to prove this year than any other year....period... he has to shut up the black community that has turned against him (lmao) and the philly fans who question him now.... McNabb at 5th here instead of Hass is about right...IMO, of course.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rebdog Posted May 23, 2006 Share Posted May 23, 2006 i wouldn't touch McNabb. he doesn't run anymore and he no longer has a legitimate #1 WR. the teams in the NFC East have gotten better as well. i think his upside is 25 TDs at best. that's not bad if he gets that many but i'd rather gamble on some guys who'll be available at a lesser price. McNabb is now one dimensional and he has no big-play threat at WR. So what makes him a better prospect than 15 other QBs out there? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i_am_the_swammi Posted May 23, 2006 Share Posted May 23, 2006 I posted a responce to the C. Palmer thred, but these rankings are the same 5 as mine, only you have Hass and Eli flip-flopped. Without a true, big play target (and Burress isn't it), Eli is no better than 5-6. And his time is running out the having a RB (Barber) who can open up the pass, so even though he is young, and many have him ranked especially high for dynasty leagues, the NYG better get a future stud RB to tote the rock, the way James has for Manning, and the way Alexander does for Hass. I too have Palmer #4, but only because I wonder if he will be the same QB, even when "healthy". I have McNabb as #8, behind the five mentioned here, and Bulger & Delhomme. My top 10: Peyton Brady Hass Palmer Eli Bulger Delhomme McNabb Vick Culpepper No offense intended Mssrs. Brees, Roethlisberger, Bledsoe, Green and Warner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avernus Posted May 23, 2006 Share Posted May 23, 2006 I posted a responce to the C. Palmer thred, but these rankings are the same 5 as mine, only you have Hass and Eli flip-flopped. Without a true, big play target (and Burress isn't it), Eli is no better than 5-6. And his time is running out the having a RB (Barber) who can open up the pass, so even though he is young, and many have him ranked especially high for dynasty leagues, the NYG better get a future stud RB to tote the rock, the way James has for Manning, and the way Alexander does for Hass. I too have Palmer #4, but only because I wonder if he will be the same QB, even when "healthy". I have McNabb as #8, behind the five mentioned here, and Bulger & Delhomme. My top 10: Peyton Brady Hass Palmer Eli Bulger Delhomme McNabb Vick Culpepper No offense intended Mssrs. Brees, Roethlisberger, Bledsoe, Green and Warner. 1482912[/snapback] the only one's that should be in the top 10 that weren't are maybe Bledsoe and Warner... Vick and Culpepper should not be top 10... Culpepper makes my top 10 if he's playing by week 3...and if so...it's a tremendous leap... here's mine.... 1. P Manning 2. Palmer 3. Brady 4. E Manning 5. McNabb 6. Delhomme 7. Hasselbeck 8. Warner 9. Bulger 10. Bledsoe/Culpepper if alot healthier..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMD Posted May 23, 2006 Share Posted May 23, 2006 I posted a responce to the C. Palmer thred, but these rankings are the same 5 as mine, only you have Hass and Eli flip-flopped. Without a true, big play target (and Burress isn't it), Eli is no better than 5-6. And his time is running out the having a RB (Barber) who can open up the pass, so even though he is young, and many have him ranked especially high for dynasty leagues, the NYG better get a future stud RB to tote the rock, the way James has for Manning, and the way Alexander does for Hass. 1482912[/snapback] Eli had 3762 yards and 25 TDs in only his second season. He's only going to get better and he will have a big play target this year (at least for a few long plays) in Sinorice Moss. Add in Buress, Toomer, Shockey (one of the elite TE's) and Barber and he has plenty of targets in the NFC East where it should be fairly brutal trying to run this year. Hass is a great FF QB too, but he has capped out around 3500 yards and 24 TDs. He has Alexander and a soft schedule which means the run takes the majority of FF value there IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avernus Posted May 23, 2006 Share Posted May 23, 2006 Eli had 3762 yards and 25 TDs in only his second season. He's only going to get better and he will have a big play target this year (at least for a few long plays) in Sinorice Moss. Add in Buress, Toomer, Shockey (one of the elite TE's) and Barber and he has plenty of targets in the NFC East where it should be fairly brutal trying to run this year. Hass is a great FF QB too, but he has capped out around 3500 yards and 24 TDs. He has Alexander and a soft schedule which means the run takes the majority of FF value there IMO. 1482960[/snapback] I agree about Hass and I think both aspects of their offense will be ineffective this season.... plus you have the trend of the SB loser falling off the face of the earth the following season.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Posted May 23, 2006 Share Posted May 23, 2006 Eli had 3762 yards and 25 TDs in only his second season. He's only going to get better and he will have a big play target this year (at least for a few long plays) in Sinorice Moss. Add in Buress, Toomer, Shockey (one of the elite TE's) and Barber and he has plenty of targets in the NFC East where it should be fairly brutal trying to run this year. Hass is a great FF QB too, but he has capped out around 3500 yards and 24 TDs. He has Alexander and a soft schedule which means the run takes the majority of FF value there IMO. 1482960[/snapback] PRETTY SOON THE MANNINGS MAY BE #1 AND #2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pope Flick Posted May 23, 2006 Share Posted May 23, 2006 For years I've said McNappy is over-rated. People seem to have forgotten that he was a top 3 QB the two years before he got TO. 1481890[/snapback] So if he's not the clear cut #1 he's overrated? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaP'N GRuNGe Posted May 24, 2006 Share Posted May 24, 2006 Don't forget to squeeze Tarvaris Jackson in there somewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TDFFFreak Posted May 24, 2006 Share Posted May 24, 2006 So if he's not the clear cut #1 he's overrated? 1483513[/snapback] There are a lot of haters out there.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fitzkek Posted May 24, 2006 Share Posted May 24, 2006 So, your off the cusp five is... 1-PManning 2-Brady 3-EManning 4-Palmer 5-Hasselbeck 1482198[/snapback] You have to be kidding me, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muck Posted May 24, 2006 Share Posted May 24, 2006 ...I noticed that, too... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Posted May 24, 2006 Share Posted May 24, 2006 You have to be kidding me, right? 1485195[/snapback] Yeah. I'd drop him to 5 or 6. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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