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Price learning new Offense (May 23rd)


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Peerless Price started his first practice as a Bill on Monday running with the third pairing of wideouts, but had worked his way up to the first team by the end of the first practice of the Bills offseason organized team activities. "It felt good," Price told the team's official website. "I know the surroundings, I'm getting used to my teammates."

 

Price apparently played well in his first practice, but Josh Reed also made some nice catches and should fight him all offseason for the right to start opposite Lee Evans when the season opens.

 

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Man the Bills must really need help at receiver.

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Nope...The Bills are actually pretty good at WR. We might not have any HUGE superstars (yet), but the talent we have is far from hurting. If someone fits the system that was bad elsewhere, that doesnt mean theyre gonna be bad EVERY where. Ya he got cut by ATL and DAL, but he thrived in Buffalo.

 

Maybe he just likes it here.

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Nope...The Bills are actually pretty good at WR. We might not have any HUGE superstars (yet), but the talent we have is far from hurting.  If someone fits the system that was bad elsewhere, that doesnt mean theyre gonna be bad EVERY where. Ya he got cut by ATL and DAL, but he thrived in Buffalo.

 

Maybe he just likes it here.

 

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Or maybe...Peerless Price's 2002 season of 94/1252/9 was a complete anamoly. Don't forget, Bledsoe threw for over 4300 yards and Moulds has 100/1300/10...not to mention Travis Henry bursting onto the scene with 1400+. A HORRIBLE second receiver would've had 80 and 1000. "He thrived in Buffalo". For one season. Other than that 2002 season, the most balls he ever caught in a year for the Bills was 55. He also has had only one season besides 2002 IN HIS WHOLE CAREER where he has caught more than THREE TOUCHDOWNS (2001)!!!

 

Buffalo's receiver talent is "far from hurting". Why, Josh Reed?? Wasn't he taken like really high in the second round?? The guy has had more than 37 receptions ONCE! Never had 600 yards and has SIX CAREER TOUCHDOWNS. If dude was any good, he would be STARTING by now.

 

Lee Evans is real nice. Too bad he's gonna be tripled all year

 

:D sorry for the outburst, rough day at work :D

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Or maybe...Peerless Price's 2002 season of 94/1252/9 was a complete anamoly.  Don't forget, Bledsoe threw for over 4300 yards and Moulds has 100/1300/10...not to mention Travis Henry bursting onto the scene with 1400+.  A HORRIBLE second receiver would've had 80 and 1000.  "He thrived in Buffalo".  For one season.  Other than that 2002 season, the most balls he ever caught in a year for the Bills was 55.  He also has had only one season besides 2002 IN HIS WHOLE CAREER where he has caught more than THREE TOUCHDOWNS (2001)!!! 

 

Buffalo's receiver talent is "far from hurting".  Why, Josh Reed??  Wasn't he taken like really high in the second round??  The guy has had more than 37 receptions ONCE!  Never had 600 yards and has SIX CAREER TOUCHDOWNS.  If dude was any good, he would be STARTING by now.   

 

Lee Evans is real nice.  Too bad he's gonna be tripled all year

 

:D sorry for the outburst, rough day at work :D

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Id love to make an arguement here, but with the question marks at QB in Buffalo, I wont dare say to watch out for Price OR Evans this year. If we had anything that resembeled an OL, then our QB might be decent, and all WRs would benefit. I dont see that happening this year. MAYBE next year Ill make an arguement with ya. :D

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The Bills passing game looks to be one of the shakiest in the league in my opinion.

 

Lee Evans is talented but mostly from his speed game. He was brought in to be the fast complement to Eric Moulds as the possession reciever. That's why Evans had such a healthy YPC because he mostly caught long bombs. Even with Moulds there he never had more than 48 catches in a year. Last year he had six games with catches over 40 yards which is great but indicative of him being mostly a fast guy down the sideline - he still only had 743 yards on the season.

 

I think Evans is a good receiver but I am very leery of him being a #1 receiver because he has not shown to be an "over the middle, move the chains" sort of wideout. Maybe he will develop into it but until now, whatever he has done has been boosted by having Eric Moulds attract secondary attention. He will not have that now and Evans gets the big time focus by the secondary. I have concerns that he will be another guy cut out for #2 duty with the long ball miscast as a #1 (AKA Peerless Price)

 

Peerless Price had a string of games in the first half of 2002 that gave him seven TDs and most of his yardage. He only had two games over 50 yards in the final seven weeks. For some reason, ATL was impressed enough to make one of the worst acquisitions I can think of when they tried to make Price a #1 WR.

 

Josh Reed was supposed to be Price's original replacement, but that has never happened. Reed has never had more than 588 yards in a season or two scores despite being the #2 guy in BUF for two seasons. On a good day, Reed is an adequate #3 maybe.

 

With OC Steven Fairchild (from STL), hopefully this comes together for much more than it has been, but as I see it, this is one of the weaker WR units in the league with questions at QB.

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The Bills passing game looks to be one of the shakiest in the league in my opinion.

 

Lee Evans is talented but mostly from his speed game. He was brought in to be the fast complement to Eric Moulds as the possession reciever. That's why Evans had such a healthy YPC because he mostly caught long bombs. Even with Moulds there he never had more than 48 catches in a year. Last year he had six games with catches over 40 yards which is great but indicative of him being mostly a fast guy down the sideline - he still only had 743 yards on the season.

 

I think Evans is a good receiver but I am very leery of him being a #1 receiver because he has not shown to be an "over the middle, move the chains" sort of wideout. Maybe he will develop into it but until now, whatever he has done has been boosted by having Eric Moulds attract secondary attention. He will not have that now and Evans gets the big time focus by the secondary. I have concerns that he will be another guy cut out for #2 duty with the long ball miscast as a #1 (AKA Peerless Price)

 

Peerless Price had a string of games in the first half of 2002 that gave him seven TDs and most of his yardage. He only had two games over 50 yards in the final seven weeks. For some reason, ATL was impressed enough to make one of the worst acquisitions I can think of when they tried to make Price a #1 WR.

 

Josh Reed was supposed to be Price's original replacement, but that has never happened. Reed has never had more than 588 yards in a season or two scores despite being the #2 guy in BUF for two seasons. On a good day, Reed is an adequate #3 maybe.

 

With OC Steven Fairchild (from STL), hopefully this comes together for much more than it has been, but as I see it, this is one of the weaker WR units in the league with questions at QB.

 

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One thing that has to be considered too though is the fact that they have been VERY unstable at all coaching positions. They are constantly having to learn new systems, routes, etc. This team has the TALENT to be a decent to very good WR corps, but it ALL has to come together for that to happen. I dont see it happening this year, but within the next 2 years or so they should be much improved if the coaching staff stays together, and they become more stable at QB.

 

In short, I dont see the problem as the WRs so much as with the system/coaches of the past. We'll see what happens this year.

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The Bills passing game looks to be one of the shakiest in the league in my opinion.

 

Lee Evans is talented but mostly from his speed game. He was brought in to be the fast complement to Eric Moulds as the possession reciever. That's why Evans had such a healthy YPC because he mostly caught long bombs. Even with Moulds there he never had more than 48 catches in a year. Last year he had six games with catches over 40 yards which is great but indicative of him being mostly a fast guy down the sideline - he still only had 743 yards on the season.

 

I think Evans is a good receiver but I am very leery of him being a #1 receiver because he has not shown to be an "over the middle, move the chains" sort of wideout. Maybe he will develop into it but until now, whatever he has done has been boosted by having Eric Moulds attract secondary attention. He will not have that now and Evans gets the big time focus by the secondary. I have concerns that he will be another guy cut out for #2 duty with the long ball miscast as a #1 (AKA Peerless Price)

 

Peerless Price had a string of games in the first half of 2002 that gave him seven TDs and most of his yardage. He only had two games over 50 yards in the final seven weeks. For some reason, ATL was impressed enough to make one of the worst acquisitions I can think of when they tried to make Price a #1 WR.

 

Josh Reed was supposed to be Price's original replacement, but that has never happened. Reed has never had more than 588 yards in a season or two scores despite being the #2 guy in BUF for two seasons. On a good day, Reed is an adequate #3 maybe.

 

With OC Steven Fairchild (from STL), hopefully this comes together for much more than it has been, but as I see it, this is one of the weaker WR units in the league with questions at QB.

 

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Yeah. What he said.

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One thing to note with Price, was his vision impairment diagnosis.

 

He was supposed to have surgery to correct it, but I don't know if he ever did and if he did have the surgery, was it 100% successful?

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Price is not as bad as everyone makes him out to be. And far as Falcon land is concern I give him a pass. Mike Vick look TE first, then took off and ran. NO wide has done great their while Vick is at the helm.

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Price is not as bad as everyone makes him out to be.  And far as Falcon land is  concern I give him a pass.  Mike Vick look TE first, then took off and ran.  NO wide has done great their while Vick is at the helm.

 

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bad English... but good points. Price is better than he showed in ATL, but likely will never repeat his #s from 02 - esp not with the questions behind center in Buffalo.

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bad English... but good points.  Price is better than he showed in ATL, but likely will never repeat his #s from 02 - esp not with the questions behind center in Buffalo.

 

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Price reunited with Bill Parcells and Drew Bledsoe couldn't dislodge Patrick Crayton last year and he was hurt almost the entire season. The Cowboys released him at the start of December so Price didn't even make it a full season. He had a clear shot at being the slot guy in Dallas with Crayton out and only manged six catches for 96 yards. Hard to imagine the Cowboys cut Price before the season even ended if he still "has it".

 

I wouldn't personally touch him in any draft.

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Price reunited with Bill Parcells and Drew Bledsoe couldn't dislodge Patrick Crayton last year and he was hurt almost the entire season. The Cowboys released him at the start of December so Price didn't even make it a full season. He had a clear shot at being the slot guy in Dallas with Crayton out and only manged six catches for 96 yards. Hard to imagine the Cowboys cut Price before the season even ended if he still "has it".

 

I wouldn't personally touch him in any draft.

 

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Yeah I really don't see the Bills have a great year.

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Price reunited with Bill Parcells and Drew Bledsoe couldn't dislodge Patrick Crayton last year and he was hurt almost the entire season. The Cowboys released him at the start of December so Price didn't even make it a full season. He had a clear shot at being the slot guy in Dallas with Crayton out and only manged six catches for 96 yards. Hard to imagine the Cowboys cut Price before the season even ended if he still "has it".

 

I wouldn't personally touch him in any draft.

 

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Since when is Price a slot WR? In Buffalo he was opposite Moulds. Reed was in the slot.

 

Not defending Price, just saying he hasnt been in the same situation he was in in buffalo.

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Yeah I really don't see the Bills have a great year.

 

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They lost a LOT of close games last year. If they put up 5 points more in half the games they lost last year, theyd be in the playoffs last year. A lot of people might be surprised by them this year.

 

I know...Homerism, but its a fact.

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They lost a LOT of close games last year. If they put up 5 points more in half the games they lost last year, theyd be in the playoffs last year. A lot of people might be surprised by them this year.

 

I know...Homerism, but its a fact.

 

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Only reason the Bills had close games last year is because once teams got up on them (usually before the half) they went to ball control Offense & prevent Defense.

 

If the Bills ever mounted a serious come back attempt, the opposition just opened the Offense back up again and put them away.

 

The Bills were a really, really, really, bad team last year.

 

I don't hold out much hope for improvement for them this year either. The one saving grace is they at least get to play the Jets twice this year. My bet is that those two games will have to be of the lowest rated NFL games ever.

 

I don't think anyone will be surprised by the Bills this year. Everyone expects the Bills to suck and they will oblige.

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The Bills passing game looks to be one of the shakiest in the league in my opinion.

 

Lee Evans is talented but mostly from his speed game. He was brought in to be the fast complement to Eric Moulds as the possession reciever. That's why Evans had such a healthy YPC because he mostly caught long bombs. Even with Moulds there he never had more than 48 catches in a year. Last year he had six games with catches over 40 yards which is great but indicative of him being mostly a fast guy down the sideline - he still only had 743 yards on the season.

 

I think Evans is a good receiver but I am very leery of him being a #1 receiver because he has not shown to be an "over the middle, move the chains" sort of wideout. Maybe he will develop into it but until now, whatever he has done has been boosted by having Eric Moulds attract secondary attention. He will not have that now and Evans gets the big time focus by the secondary. I have concerns that he will be another guy cut out for #2 duty with the long ball miscast as a #1 (AKA Peerless Price)

 

Peerless Price had a string of games in the first half of 2002 that gave him seven TDs and most of his yardage. He only had two games over 50 yards in the final seven weeks. For some reason, ATL was impressed enough to make one of the worst acquisitions I can think of when they tried to make Price a #1 WR.

 

Josh Reed was supposed to be Price's original replacement, but that has never happened. Reed has never had more than 588 yards in a season or two scores despite being the #2 guy in BUF for two seasons. On a good day, Reed is an adequate #3 maybe.

 

With OC Steven Fairchild (from STL), hopefully this comes together for much more than it has been, but as I see it, this is one of the weaker WR units in the league with questions at QB.

 

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Your probably right with this. I'm just thinking that Losman was so bad last year that he had to impact the WR core as a whole. I wonder if Holcomb could be more consistent and thus help the WR numbers.

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Only reason the Bills had close games last year is because once teams got up on them (usually before the half) they went to ball control Offense & prevent Defense.

 

If the Bills ever mounted a serious come back attempt, the opposition just opened the Offense back up again and put them away.

 

The Bills were a really, really, really, bad team last year.

 

I don't hold out much hope for improvement for them this year either. The one saving grace is they at least get to play the Jets twice this year. My bet is that those two games will have to be of the lowest rated NFL games ever.

 

I don't think anyone will be surprised by the Bills this year. Everyone expects the Bills to suck and they will oblige.

 

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While I agree they were a horrible team last year (Defense was almost last), I dont think they will be half as bad this year. They didnt have much on offense, and their D was horrible. They drafted to fix the D, and they did. Granted there will be a learning curve for those said rookies, but they have plugged up the middle, and they now have a stud in the making (I hope) in Whitner.

 

Time will tell, and you better damn sure believe if they go 9-7 or even 8-8, Ill be the first to remind everyone just how much they werent gonna surprise us all.

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While I agree they were a horrible team last year (Defense was almost last), I dont think they will be half as bad this year. They didnt have much on offense, and their D was horrible. They drafted to fix the D, and they did. Granted there will be a learning curve for those said rookies, but they have plugged up the middle, and they now have a stud in the making (I hope) in Whitner.

 

Time will tell, and you better damn sure believe if they go 9-7 or even 8-8, Ill be the first to remind everyone just how much they werent gonna surprise us all.

 

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I think they're on the right track, but 2007 is where I expect them to really begin showing improvements.

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The Bills passing game looks to be one of the shakiest in the league in my opinion.

 

Lee Evans is talented but mostly from his speed game. He was brought in to be the fast complement to Eric Moulds as the possession reciever. That's why Evans had such a healthy YPC because he mostly caught long bombs. Even with Moulds there he never had more than 48 catches in a year. Last year he had six games with catches over 40 yards which is great but indicative of him being mostly a fast guy down the sideline - he still only had 743 yards on the season.

 

I think Evans is a good receiver but I am very leery of him being a #1 receiver because he has not shown to be an "over the middle, move the chains" sort of wideout. Maybe he will develop into it but until now, whatever he has done has been boosted by having Eric Moulds attract secondary attention. He will not have that now and Evans gets the big time focus by the secondary. I have concerns that he will be another guy cut out for #2 duty with the long ball miscast as a #1 (AKA Peerless Price)

 

Peerless Price had a string of games in the first half of 2002 that gave him seven TDs and most of his yardage. He only had two games over 50 yards in the final seven weeks. For some reason, ATL was impressed enough to make one of the worst acquisitions I can think of when they tried to make Price a #1 WR.

 

Josh Reed was supposed to be Price's original replacement, but that has never happened. Reed has never had more than 588 yards in a season or two scores despite being the #2 guy in BUF for two seasons. On a good day, Reed is an adequate #3 maybe.

 

With OC Steven Fairchild (from STL), hopefully this comes together for much more than it has been, but as I see it, this is one of the weaker WR units in the league with questions at QB.

 

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First of all, there's nothing wrong with Evans as a WR. He can do it all -- and he did, for the Badgers. To say "he never had more than 48 catches in a year" is more than unfair. The kid has only been in the league two years! :D If you say he should have improved his reception total from year one to year two, just look at the numbers he put up in the second half of last year -- 30 catches, 509 yards, 6 TDs. During that 8-game stretch, Evans was a top-10 fantasy receiver.

 

You could argue that he's learning a new offensive systems (again), but I'd argue that the Martz/Fairchild scheme is perfect for a guy like Evans. In fact, a lot of Buffalo's wideouts look like they're good fits in that offense. A lot of the routes are different than regular NFL routes -- lots of rounded corners, instead of cuts -- so a receiver with great speed and hands can consistently thrive. You don't need to be really big or even very physical. That's why Martz chose Torry Holt in the top 10 of the draft. Not a big guy, but super-fast and great hands. Bruce, in his prime, was similar. So was Az-Zahir Hakim. So is Kevin Curtis. Evans, Andre Davis, Price, and even Roscoe Parrish all have the speed, quickness, and acceleration to be contributors in that system.

 

Also, if you recall, the Martz offense almost always produced not two, but THREE viable fantasy WRs. While QB issues might prevent that this year, everybody should be paying attention to who starts opposite Evans, because that player figures to be a top-25 FF WR. The Bills still aren't much better than last year; that, combined with the generally pass-happy scheme, leads me to believe that Buffalo will be near the top of the league in pass attempts.

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