Savage Beatings Posted May 26, 2006 Share Posted May 26, 2006 Both Fitgerald and Bolding will likely be ranked pretty high this coming year, but my question is, do you think both guys could make a decent #1 Fantasy WR or, do you think one of them will only be worthy of a #2 WR spot on your roster? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yo mama Posted May 26, 2006 Share Posted May 26, 2006 (edited) I think both have a shot at landing in the top 12 WRs this year. Can't say which one has the better chance, for sure; no one can at this point. But I'd happily take either of them as my #1 WR if either were still available about 32+ picks in, assuming I'd gone RB-RB already. Though, I'm more curious if either or both will be available in the early 4th round of a 12 team redraft. Edited May 26, 2006 by yo mama Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage Beatings Posted May 26, 2006 Author Share Posted May 26, 2006 No way in hell they will be available in the 4th round...drafting now in a 2 rb / 3 wr ppr league and they boith went in the 2nd round. first 14 were all rbs, then 8 out of the next 9 were wr's...only peyton broke the wr run... 1488696[/snapback] Both of them... wow! Guess that helps to answer my question. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yo mama Posted May 26, 2006 Share Posted May 26, 2006 No way in hell they will be available in the 4th round...drafting now in a 2 rb / 3 wr ppr league and they boith went in the 2nd round. first 14 were all rbs, then 8 out of the next 9 were wr's...only peyton broke the wr run... 1488696[/snapback] Seems like a reach, to me. Though, there aren't many WRs I'd take 24 picks in to begin with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMD Posted May 26, 2006 Share Posted May 26, 2006 Both of them... wow! Guess that helps to answer my question. 1488699[/snapback] Both are #1 fantasy wideouts because both always go in the first dozen WR drafted. I have been in three drafts so far and neither has made it past the third round. I have seen Fitzgerald as early as #13th overall and Boldin as early as #26. I have never seen either still on the board after the 3.07 pick. They are in one of those rare situations that either could easily have 100 catches this season. Both could have 100. Last year ARZ only had those two as offensive weapons and they ranked #1 and #6 in number of targets in the NFL last year. I cannot imagine a league where they fall into a WR2 category (short of an 8 team league or something) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage Beatings Posted May 26, 2006 Author Share Posted May 26, 2006 good wishful thinking though to be able to get 1 of them in the 4th. 1488702[/snapback] So is it also your opinion that both of them will produce as a #1 WR, or do you think one of those two owners will end up disappointed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage Beatings Posted May 26, 2006 Author Share Posted May 26, 2006 Both are #1 fantasy wideouts because both always go in the first dozen WR drafted. I have been in three drafts so far and neither has made it past the third round. I have seen Fitzgerald as early as #13th overall and Boldin as early as #26. I have never seen either still on the board after the 3.07 pick. They are in one of those rare situations that either could easily have 100 catches this season. Both could have 100. Last year ARZ only had those two as offensive weapons and they ranked #1 and #6 in number of targets in the NFL last year. I cannot imagine a league where they fall into a WR2 category (short of an 8 team league or something) 1488703[/snapback] Thank you... that's exactly what I was looking for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perchoutofwater Posted May 26, 2006 Share Posted May 26, 2006 Both are #1 fantasy wideouts because both always go in the first dozen WR drafted. I have been in three drafts so far and neither has made it past the third round. I have seen Fitzgerald as early as #13th overall and Boldin as early as #26. I have never seen either still on the board after the 3.07 pick. They are in one of those rare situations that either could easily have 100 catches this season. Both could have 100. Last year ARZ only had those two as offensive weapons and they ranked #1 and #6 in number of targets in the NFL last year. I cannot imagine a league where they fall into a WR2 category (short of an 8 team league or something) 1488703[/snapback] Doesn't it concern you that at some point during the season they are going to have a rookie QB throwing to them? This would be my biggest concern with both of them, and probably the reason I will not be drafting either of them. They may be great during the first part of the season, but as soon as they are out of the playoff picture, or as soon as Warner breaks a nail, in comes the rookie, and those WR's that may get you to the playoffs won't be nearly as productive when you need them most. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage Beatings Posted May 26, 2006 Author Share Posted May 26, 2006 Doesn't it concern you that at some point during the season they are going to have a rookie QB throwing to them? This would be my biggest concern with both of them, and probably the reason I will not be drafting either of them. They may be great during the first part of the season, but as soon as they are out of the playoff picture, or as soon as Warner breaks a nail, in comes the rookie, and those WR's that may get you to the playoffs won't be nearly as productive when you need them most. 1488785[/snapback] I'm not so sure Perch... as much as I am very eagar to talk about Denny Green's shortcomings, I think he understands the need to patiently develop a QB under an experienced vet. I think that Warner will have to miss time with a serious injury or will really have to struggle consistently in order for Green to yank him (from the starting role that is). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMD Posted May 26, 2006 Share Posted May 26, 2006 Doesn't it concern you that at some point during the season they are going to have a rookie QB throwing to them? This would be my biggest concern with both of them, and probably the reason I will not be drafting either of them. They may be great during the first part of the season, but as soon as they are out of the playoff picture, or as soon as Warner breaks a nail, in comes the rookie, and those WR's that may get you to the playoffs won't be nearly as productive when you need them most. 1488785[/snapback] That does not really concern me. I mean look what they did with just Josh McCown last year. If Leinart does play, which is no lock, he comes in after four years at USC having played in a pro offense and having played in the biggest games that the NCAA has to offer. Conversely, Vince Young came out as a junior from an offense that is unlike what he will face in the NFL. Leinart is already as seasoned as you will find for a rookie QB and he'll have that wonderful chip on his shoulder as well. I don't see a later switch to Leinart - if and when it happens - as anything worse than McCown was or Warner probably is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yo mama Posted May 26, 2006 Share Posted May 26, 2006 Doesn't it concern you that at some point during the season they are going to have a rookie QB throwing to them? This would be my biggest concern with both of them, and probably the reason I will not be drafting either of them. They may be great during the first part of the season, but as soon as they are out of the playoff picture, or as soon as Warner breaks a nail, in comes the rookie, and those WR's that may get you to the playoffs won't be nearly as productive when you need them most. 1488785[/snapback] I, for one, am a lot more concern about the existence of an actual running game in Arizona affecting their potential upside. Leinhart doesn't bother me as much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kung-fu Midgets Posted May 26, 2006 Share Posted May 26, 2006 I, for one, am a lot more concern about the existence of an actual running game in Arizona affecting their potential upside. Leinhart doesn't bother me as much. 1488816[/snapback] True, and Edge gives them a threat from the backfield just by his name and reputation. But Denny does like to throw the ball... so I don't think Fitz and Boldin's numbers will suffer too much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yo mama Posted May 26, 2006 Share Posted May 26, 2006 (edited) True, and Edge gives them a threat from the backfield just by his name and reputation. But Denny does like to throw the ball... so I don't think Fitz and Boldin's numbers will suffer too much. 1488843[/snapback] Perhaps. I guess my point was only that I'm more concerned with Edge taking away from the passing game than I am of the potential that Leinhart may be under center at some point during the season. Last year no team threw the ball more (averaged 41.9 passes per game), or ran the ball less (22.5 run plays per game) than Arizona. Wouldn't surprise me one bit if Arizona came off those extremes and tried to go for a slightly more balanced offense. Edited May 26, 2006 by yo mama Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kung-fu Midgets Posted May 26, 2006 Share Posted May 26, 2006 Perhaps. I guess my point was only that I'm more concerned with Edge taking away from the passing game than I am from the potential that Leinhart may be under center at some point during the season. Last year no team threw the ball more (averaged 41.9 passes per game), or ran the ball less (22.5 run plays per game) than Arizona. Wouldn't surprise me one bit of Arizona came off those extremes and tried to go for a slightly more balanced offense. 1488850[/snapback] Agreed. As lopsided as they were last season they have no where to go, but in a more balanced direction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Scorp Posted May 26, 2006 Share Posted May 26, 2006 (edited) So is it also your opinion that both of them will produce as a #1 WR, or do you think one of those two owners will end up disappointed? 1488704[/snapback] This is my feeling on the situation. Boldin/Fitz could be like Carter/Moss in 1999. Both had potential to catch 100 balls each. (Cunningham was coming off a MVP year and George was the backup) I know in many draft they both went top 10 WR's. Both had great years -----Moss -----Carter REC --80--------90 Yards-1412----1241 TD's---11-------12 Rush--43-------0 TD's--0---------0 Pass--27--------0 TD's---1--------0 Points Standard scoring---Moss---251-----Carter----202 Points with 1/rec -----------Moss---331-----Carter----292 I don't have fantasy stats for all recievers but I tend to believe they both finished in the top 10. Edited May 26, 2006 by T-Scorp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ABearWithFurniture Posted May 26, 2006 Share Posted May 26, 2006 ...Arizona came off those extremes and tried to go for a slightly more balanced offense... 1488850[/snapback] hmmm...Arizona and balanced offense in the same sentence...definitely getting near the end of the world as we know it... Seriously, the scenario that will pan out with most drafts is as soon as either Fitz or Boldin go, the other will follow in the next few picks. I think they are both fairly equal and I can see the strategy of waiting for the first one to go and then jumping on the 2nd one ASAP. Not that I would be doing that...Billy, Yukon, Bier, or any of you other f'kers in my leagues lurking around...in fact, er, I'll be taking Gates with my first pick...yeah, that's right...TE...he's real good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yo mama Posted May 26, 2006 Share Posted May 26, 2006 Seriously, the scenario that will pan out with most drafts is as soon as either Fitz or Boldin go, the other will follow in the next few picks. I think they are both fairly equal and I can see the strategy of waiting for the first one to go and then jumping on the 2nd one ASAP.1488862[/snapback] I'd buy that for a dollar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avernus Posted May 26, 2006 Share Posted May 26, 2006 Seems like a reach, to me. Though, there aren't many WRs I'd take 24 picks in to begin with. 1488701[/snapback] exactly...people can take their WR's in the 2nd...it'll just make my draft better... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ABearWithFurniture Posted May 26, 2006 Share Posted May 26, 2006 I'd buy that for a dollar. 1488863[/snapback] Should I PM you my address?... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yo mama Posted May 26, 2006 Share Posted May 26, 2006 (edited) Should I PM you my address?... 1488866[/snapback] Nah, it's cool. I'll just get it from I think I love you, but what am I so afraid of?. Edited May 26, 2006 by yo mama Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Posted May 26, 2006 Share Posted May 26, 2006 No way in hell they will be available in the 4th round...drafting now in a 2 rb / 3 wr ppr league and they boith went in the 2nd round. first 14 were all rbs, then 8 out of the next 9 were wr's...only peyton broke the wr run... 1488696[/snapback] I agree. They should both go in the 2nd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brentastic Posted May 26, 2006 Share Posted May 26, 2006 If we're comparing this offense to the 98 Vikings, here's my prediction: Fitz=Moss Boldin=Carter. Fitz will be the ultimate #1 in AZ, with Boldin being a great #2 on that team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peensa Posted May 29, 2006 Share Posted May 29, 2006 If we're comparing this offense to the 98 Vikings, here's my prediction: Fitz=Moss Boldin=Carter. Fitz will be the ultimate #1 in AZ, with Boldin being a great #2 on that team. 1488882[/snapback] From what I've seen there is no #1 or #2 wr on that team. I owned Fitz last year in a couple of leagues and Boldin was a HUGE pain in my rear!! I dont see that changing anytime soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TecmoBeast Posted May 29, 2006 Share Posted May 29, 2006 i think they'll both produce at a high level. Both deserve attention; they help each other. I'd take eithter, prefering Fitz due to Boldin's injury history. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Furd Posted May 31, 2006 Share Posted May 31, 2006 I'd be as happy as a little girl to get either of them as my #2 WR. I don't see how you rank either of them outside of the top 10-12 WRs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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