DaFreak Posted June 29, 2006 Share Posted June 29, 2006 Bears get a rid of a problem, pick up a much needed receiver (I know, Lelie but the Bears could use him) and also get a backup RB....Denver gets a good running back while getting rid of their problem(s).... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hat Trick Posted June 29, 2006 Share Posted June 29, 2006 Stop throwing around ideas that make sense Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azazello1313 Posted June 29, 2006 Share Posted June 29, 2006 lelie AND bell? pass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronco Billy Posted June 29, 2006 Share Posted June 29, 2006 (edited) Why won't anyone believe that Shanahan is going to go into this year with Dayne as his #1 RB? He has always liked Dayne since before the Giants drafted him and he fits the DEN system very well, with some strong similarity to the Wisconsin rushing game. Add to that Shanahan loving to take other team's high draft pick rejects and turn them into productive players, and I have no problem seeing Dayne as the top RB with Bell being the CoP RB & getting plenty of work in that role. Add either Cobbs and/or Mike Bell to the roster and you have a pretty strong & deep RBBC. There's a lot of people that need to set aside their Dayne-hate. How can FF owners not look at the low draft picks (TD & Anderson) and the RBs who failed miserably with other teams (Gary, Droughns) and how they performed with DEN to know that Dayne is a legit threat to be a very solid FF RB if he's the guy that Shanahan believes in? The only real failure Shanahan has had with picking a starting RB was Q Griffin, and that wasn't all that hard to see coming, with Griffin's size and that he lost yardage or had no to very small gains on way too high of a percentage of his runs to be Shanahan's lead dog. Edited June 29, 2006 by Bronco Billy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azazello1313 Posted June 29, 2006 Share Posted June 29, 2006 i was with you BB until you mentioned Q-Griff and that gave me some nasty bronco billy flashbacks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronco Billy Posted June 29, 2006 Share Posted June 29, 2006 i was with you BB until you mentioned Q-Griff and that gave me some nasty bronco billy flashbacks :confused: I was down on Griffin even when he was putting up huge numbers vs IND & KC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikesVikes Posted June 29, 2006 Share Posted June 29, 2006 The Broncos will win the time of possession. Every scoring drive would be 15 plays 80 yards, elapsed time 9 minutes. Unless Dayne breaks one, that would only be four. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Holliday Posted June 29, 2006 Share Posted June 29, 2006 I was down on Griffin even when he was putting up huge numbers vs IND & KC. This is pretty much the same way I feel about Bell right now. He takes way to many losses at the line of scrimmage just like Griffin did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skilly Posted June 29, 2006 Share Posted June 29, 2006 The Broncos don't have to do anything with Lelie, let alone trade him PLUS another player. I'm worried about Walker not being healthy, or reinjuring himself, and then they are stuck with only Rod Smith. Their backups have not proven anything on the field to indicate that they could step in---hell, they couldn't beat out Lelie, and he's no prize. Honestly, I would have liked to see Denver go after Keyshawn. Rod, Key, and Javon would have made a formidable receiving trio. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtomicCEO Posted June 30, 2006 Share Posted June 30, 2006 (edited) I think that the Bears problems have revolved around the QB, not the WRs. Mushin, Bradley, and Gage are no slouches. I don't think Hakim... I mean, Lelie... adds anything to that. Edited June 30, 2006 by AtomicCEO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaFreak Posted July 27, 2006 Author Share Posted July 27, 2006 July 26, 2006 10:17 AM ET Bears: Lelie conversations have taken place The News The Bears have been in contact with the Broncos regarding disgruntled wide receiver Ashley Lelie, who would fit a need in Chicago's inexperienced receiving corps. However, according to the Chicago Sun-Times, Bears general manager Jerry Angelo is not eager to trade away mid-round draft picks and believes the team's young wideouts can step up. Our View Lelie isn't much of anything but a deep threat, but that's precisely what the Bears are looking for opposite Muhsin Muhammad. Still, it's unlikely they will pony up for a guy who hasn't shown much and will be a free agent after this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoungBob Posted July 27, 2006 Share Posted July 27, 2006 I think that the Bears problems have revolved around the QB, not the WRs. Mushin, Bradley, and Gage are no slouches. No slouches? Have you ever actually seen the Bears play? IMO, The Bears ignored a glaring need at WR2 this offseason and will pay the price with another lackluster offense all year. If the Bears wanted to take the next step, they needed to cowboy the f*ck up at WR...and they didn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheezhed Posted July 27, 2006 Share Posted July 27, 2006 Heard talks today on Sirius about Lelie for Barlow!? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Posted July 27, 2006 Share Posted July 27, 2006 lelie AND bell? pass. Exactly. Too much for someone that will be given away soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Posted July 27, 2006 Share Posted July 27, 2006 No slouches? Have you ever actually seen the Bears play? IMO, The Bears ignored a glaring need at WR2 this offseason and will pay the price with another lackluster offense all year. If the Bears wanted to take the next step, they needed to cowboy the f*ck up at WR...and they didn't. Ignoring the TE was a bigger problem. Des Clark? Atomic is right though. Without a decent QB how can the WR's even be evaluated fairly? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackass Posted July 27, 2006 Share Posted July 27, 2006 Heard talks today on Sirius about Lelie for Barlow!? hmmm. i do remember shanny absolutely raving about Barlow when he was drafted. not sure SF would do this and leave the running game solely in Gore's hands. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loyalboyd Posted July 27, 2006 Share Posted July 27, 2006 hmmm. i do remember shanny absolutely raving about Barlow when he was drafted. not sure SF would do this and leave the running game solely in Gore's hands. This i really dont see happening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
URLACHERisGOD Posted July 27, 2006 Share Posted July 27, 2006 Our workman's comp insurance would go through the roof! Grossman and Bell...give me a break (no pun intended). We've got no use for Lelie and his problems. We've already got Manning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raider.Nation Posted July 27, 2006 Share Posted July 27, 2006 Doesn't make sense for Denver. They have the exact same backfield as last season (Dayne is pretty close to Anderson behind that OLine IMHO)... Lelie is still decent insurance for Walker like it was stated previously. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghengis_chan Posted July 27, 2006 Share Posted July 27, 2006 No slouches? Have you ever actually seen the Bears play? IMO, The Bears ignored a glaring need at WR2 this offseason and will pay the price with another lackluster offense all year. If the Bears wanted to take the next step, they needed to cowboy the f*ck up at WR...and they didn't. As a Die-hard Bears fan I have just about gave up on their draft mentality... Here you have the NFL's best defense and what do the Bears do with their first 5 picks...Safety, CB/KR, DT.OLB. DE....They could have gotten Greg Jennings (52) or Sinorice Moss (44)....Why improve the Defense when the Offense (esp the passing game) has sucked for as long as I can remember?... Those 5 yd screen passes don't work without someone to spread the field... I was even upset last year when they took Benson instead of a real QB or WR at pick3....Jones and Thomas were more than serviceable RB's.....If I wasn't raised near Chicago I'd be a Packer Fan..Blasphemy...At least they are not afraid to throw the ball !!!.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaP'N GRuNGe Posted July 27, 2006 Share Posted July 27, 2006 I wouldn't mind seeing Lelie in Minnesota, but don't see the Vikings have much trade bait other than draft picks and I doubt they'd want to part with any. KRob - could relapse anytime TWill - unproven MRob - one dimensional TTaylor - meh, OK depth Another guy like Lelie sure wouldn't hurt IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
broncosn05 Posted July 27, 2006 Share Posted July 27, 2006 Why won't anyone believe that Shanahan is going to go into this year with Dayne as his #1 RB? He has always liked Dayne since before the Giants drafted him and he fits the DEN system very well, with some strong similarity to the Wisconsin rushing game. Add to that Shanahan loving to take other team's high draft pick rejects and turn them into productive players, and I have no problem seeing Dayne as the top RB with Bell being the CoP RB & getting plenty of work in that role. Add either Cobbs and/or Mike Bell to the roster and you have a pretty strong & deep RBBC. There's a lot of people that need to set aside their Dayne-hate. How can FF owners not look at the low draft picks (TD & Anderson) and the RBs who failed miserably with other teams (Gary, Droughns) and how they performed with DEN to know that Dayne is a legit threat to be a very solid FF RB if he's the guy that Shanahan believes in? The only real failure Shanahan has had with picking a starting RB was Q Griffin, and that wasn't all that hard to see coming, with Griffin's size and that he lost yardage or had no to very small gains on way too high of a percentage of his runs to be Shanahan's lead dog. So f'n true you've pointed this out in numerous threads and they still don't get it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoungBob Posted July 27, 2006 Share Posted July 27, 2006 Atomic is right though. Without a decent QB how can the WR's even be evaluated fairly? ...and without quality WR's with the skill set to run precise routes, separate from DB's, and hold onto the ball, how do you evaluate the QB's fairly? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaFreak Posted July 28, 2006 Author Share Posted July 28, 2006 With the apparent offer of Lelie for TJ it begs the question, do NFL teams read my posts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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