T-Scorp Posted July 6, 2006 Share Posted July 6, 2006 Our redraft league is drafting on Sept 9, which is after the first NFL game. Miami vs Pittsburgh Anyone have any thoughts on what to do with the players who have already played on Thursday? Should an owner who drafts a Dolphin or Steeler be allowed to start them? (especially if it is a sleeper type player) Our fear is that a defense/kicker/sleeper could have a huge game and effect that weeks scoring. The other fear is that Big Ben, Ward, R Brown, Chambers etc could have horrible games and owners will bench them when they probably wouldn't have. We are debating not being able to start a Dolphin or Steeler not drafted in the first 10 rounds of the 16 round draft. This would allow an owner to have a full squad including defense and kicker but if you want to start or bench a Dolphin/Steeler it will force you to draft accordingly. Any thoughts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage Beatings Posted July 6, 2006 Share Posted July 6, 2006 (edited) I think you might have to scrap all of week 1... maybe that's just the price for drafting so late. I don't think it's fair to penalize people that want to draft the best available player, but will have to pass over all Dolphins and Steelers if they want a starter for week 1. But it's also not fair letting someone start players when they know the outcome of their performance. I think week 1 is a wash for this league. Maybe you can make it up with a double-header later in the season. Edited July 6, 2006 by Savage Beatings Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushwacked Posted July 6, 2006 Share Posted July 6, 2006 (edited) Just let them start the players from the Thursday night game. If Willie Parker gets 2 TD's and 150 yards and someone decides to draft him in the 1st round because of it, then so be it. We've drafted in our local 2 times after the first game and it really didn't effect anything. Everyone realizes the FF season is a marathon. EDA....I'm pretty sure this is what they do in the WCOFF also. Edited July 6, 2006 by bushwacked Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Country Posted July 6, 2006 Share Posted July 6, 2006 Just do what WCOFF does, which also drafts after week one.... award the points... it is just one game, and if an owner drastically alters strategy based on one game (other than for injuries), then they are making a HUGH mistake. THis happened last year when the TE for Oakland had 2 TDs... all of a sudden he was going very early in the WCOFF drafts.... he did nothing the rest of the year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WJW Posted July 6, 2006 Share Posted July 6, 2006 The WCOFF has done this for the past two seasons. With over 100 leagues I've never seen or heard of the Thursday game greatly impacting a draft or league outcome. Don't try to micro-manage for completely unknown situations. Draft 'em, play 'em and let the chips fall where they may. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twiley Posted July 6, 2006 Share Posted July 6, 2006 Just do what WCOFF does, which also drafts after week one.... award the points... it is just one game, and if an owner drastically alters strategy based on one game (other than for injuries), then they are making a HUGH mistake. THis happened last year when the TE for Oakland had 2 TDs... all of a sudden he was going very early in the WCOFF drafts.... he did nothing the rest of the year. Courtney Anderson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Country Posted July 6, 2006 Share Posted July 6, 2006 Courtney Anderson Yup.. that was him.. saw him going regularly in the 4th and 5th rounds.... I can almost guarantee none of those teams made the money.. or at least didn't get very far in the money rounds as they were scrambling the whole year to make up for that wasted early pick. Now, in this case, if ROnnie Brown goes off, I would consider putting him ahead of say Cadillac on my board, but thats only ecause I already have the two of them ranked very close together.. I wouldnt move Brown over say ALexander or LT or LJ just because he has a nive Thursday night game... that would be foolish and what I would want my opponents to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushwacked Posted July 6, 2006 Share Posted July 6, 2006 Yup.. that was him.. saw him going regularly in the 4th and 5th rounds.... Wow, Just think if that one WR from Cleveland would have went off on a Thursday night game.....what Chris Frisman or whatever? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bengal Mania Posted July 6, 2006 Share Posted July 6, 2006 Agree w/ above notes to not over-analyze.... ....However, it's easy to say in week one, you MUST start your Mia/Pitt player if they are the first "starters" selected for your team (1st QB, 1st 2 RBs, etc), and that you CANNOT start them if they are not, regardless of performance. I love the idea of the draft the night before opening day, and FFL is another major reason (but not the only) why I think a Thursday opener is a STUPID idea. (Same way I think a Sunday night opener in baseball is stupid). Opening day should be for ALL games (except the one monday nighter)! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big John Posted July 6, 2006 Share Posted July 6, 2006 what Chris Frisman or whatever? Frisman Jackson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralph Furley Posted July 6, 2006 Share Posted July 6, 2006 I say you should still be allowed to decide if you want to start or bench them. How can you draft Ronnie Brown and then not be allowed to start him the first week? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrFancyPants Posted July 6, 2006 Share Posted July 6, 2006 For three years running we have drafted after the Thursday game (not ideal, but such is life). After much gnashing of teeth to determine how to deal with this the first year - it has turned out to be a huge non-issue to allow teams to activate (or not) anyone from the Thursday game after knowing the results. Basically - since everyone knows the results, everyone has an equal chance to tweak their cheat sheets accordingly - so it is still fair. Think it's a big deal that so-and-so had a good game? Bump him up. think it's meaningless? Leave him be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Scorp Posted July 6, 2006 Author Share Posted July 6, 2006 I say you should still be allowed to decide if you want to start or bench them. How can you draft Ronnie Brown and then not be allowed to start him the first week? Our thought is that a player like Brown would go in the first 10 rounds so you could start him. We may be over analizing this but knowing the owners if someone lost a game by 2 points because of a player in the Miami/Pitt game there wil be belly aching so we are trying to head it off at the pass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage Beatings Posted July 6, 2006 Share Posted July 6, 2006 Our thought is that a player like Brown would go in the first 10 rounds so you could start him. We may be over analizing this but knowing the owners if someone lost a game by 2 points because of a player in the Miami/Pitt game there wil be belly aching so we are trying to head it off at the pass. Maybe you'll get lucky and both teams will suck Thursday night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whiskey Pimp Posted July 6, 2006 Share Posted July 6, 2006 Make a decision that only the following players will be mandatory starters for the teams that drafted them and all other players stay on the bench regardless of their stats: Mia - Culpepper, R. Brown, Chambers, McMichael, PK, D Pit - Ben, FWP, Ward, Miller, PK, D Do either team have anyone else that would even be considered a starter in week 1 of a fantasy league? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PantherDave Posted July 7, 2006 Share Posted July 7, 2006 The palyers on the Phins and Steelers can be drafted-of course, but owners lose those points for week one, and then treat it like a bye week for the players drafted-use your fillers for Brown/Chambers/ McMichael, Roth/ Parker/Ward etc. in week one. Sucketh though, of course, you could still draft them and get the points, as I don't think a savvy FFer will bump someone up to high just to garner a good week in one game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Posted July 7, 2006 Share Posted July 7, 2006 I say you draft and keep the points. When everyone knows they are allowed it beomes part of strategy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushwacked Posted July 7, 2006 Share Posted July 7, 2006 I say you draft and keep the points. When everyone knows they are allowed it beomes part of strategy. Based on personal experience, it never really became part of a strategy. I could see people overvaluing like Big Country mentioned in the Courtney Anderson case....but I've never seen it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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