BeeR Posted July 14, 2006 Share Posted July 14, 2006 Last year I was happy to get Plummer cheaply as a backup in my 10-team lg - unfortunately he ended up being my starter thx to Favre sucking so bad, but as backups go, he was OK. Anyway I'd settle for him as a cheap backup this year, but hope to do a bit better with a more upside kinda guy - Brooks IMO would be ideal. Warner might be worth it also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolv Posted July 14, 2006 Share Posted July 14, 2006 I'm looking to grab Brooks, Warner, or Kitna. So far in 10 man mocks Brooks and Warner have been Rd 9-11 picks while Kitna has been largely ignored. Hope it stays that way Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goopster24 Posted July 14, 2006 Share Posted July 14, 2006 I think Kitna will be great. He has a lot of weapons that he can use and he is more than capable of putting up solid numbers. This team could be interesting to watch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yo mama Posted July 14, 2006 Share Posted July 14, 2006 Depends on who my starter is. I'll wait on a back up a whole lot longer if P. Manning is my #1 that I will if my #1 QB is someone who gets hurt a lot, like Bulger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loyalboyd Posted July 14, 2006 Share Posted July 14, 2006 I'm looking to grab Brooks, Warner, or Kitna. So far in 10 man mocks Brooks and Warner have been Rd 9-11 picks while Kitna has been largely ignored. Hope it stays that way Any of those would be me laugh if I was able to have them and a true no.1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoungBob Posted July 14, 2006 Share Posted July 14, 2006 I'm looking to grab Brooks, Warner, or Kitna. So far in 10 man mocks Brooks and Warner have been Rd 9-11 picks while Kitna has been largely ignored. Hope it stays that way I would go with Warner, Leftwich or Kitna/McCown long before I settled for Brooks. As a matter of fact, I honestly don't see a scenerio in which I would draft Brooks. He's unreliable, prone to turnovers, and a poor decision maker. I also keep reading where Andrew Walter could easily take over at QB if Brooks doesn't start of well. Too many strikes against him to land on my rosters this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yo mama Posted July 14, 2006 Share Posted July 14, 2006 FWIW, I consider Delhomme and Warner as top 12 QB options, and therefore, not back up options. (Clearly, if they were available as such, I'd nab them). As far as QB that I rank outside the top 12, I like these QBs as EARLY back ups: - Bledsoe, Brees, Culpepper As far as LATE back up QBs, I like: - Chris Simms, McNair, Brunnell, and depending on how things in camp shake out, *maybe* Brooks (who is generally better for fantasy than he is for NFL purposes). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoungBob Posted July 14, 2006 Share Posted July 14, 2006 FWIW, I consider Delhomme and Warner as top 12 QB options, and therefore, not back up options. (Clearly, if they were available as such, I'd nab them). I believe this thread started with discussions about a 10 team league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clubfoothead Posted July 14, 2006 Share Posted July 14, 2006 Unless Culpepper is in my plans, I'm not sure it matters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Posted July 14, 2006 Share Posted July 14, 2006 Grabbed Trent Green and Brooks in one draft Trent Green and McNair in another. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yo mama Posted July 14, 2006 Share Posted July 14, 2006 I believe this thread started with discussions about a 10 team league. You are correct, sir. My appolgies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seahawks21 Posted July 16, 2006 Share Posted July 16, 2006 If I can't nab Eli or Hass, I'm gonna wait in my local keeper and gamble on young RB's instead. I'll probably end up taking 4 QBs late. Culpepper, Kitna, Bledsoe, Warner, Brees, Brooks. A couple of those guys are gonna have a big year, so I think I'll be okay sliding on a QB and drafting them hard a bit later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Holliday Posted July 17, 2006 Share Posted July 17, 2006 Plummer, Warner , Leftwich,Rivers would be 4 guys I would love to see as my number 2 QB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonorator Posted July 17, 2006 Share Posted July 17, 2006 As far as QB that I rank outside the top 12, I like these QBs as EARLY back ups: - Bledsoe, Brees, Culpepper i believe bledsoe had solid top 10 numbers last season. add TO this year and i would think he is a lock for top 10. i'd have no problem with him as my #1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chargerz Posted July 17, 2006 Share Posted July 17, 2006 Rivers of course!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kpholmes Posted July 17, 2006 Share Posted July 17, 2006 I will be taking Vinny Testaverde with my final pick. I dont even care if he plays for a team, i always like to have a class act verteran QB to serve as a player/coach/mentor for my team. This is fantasy football, not your Madden team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Posted July 17, 2006 Share Posted July 17, 2006 Rivers of course!! He may go pretty early, especially in your local. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeeR Posted July 17, 2006 Author Share Posted July 17, 2006 Any of those would be me laugh if I was able to have them and a true no.1 You REALLY need to start drinking much later in the day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeeR Posted July 17, 2006 Author Share Posted July 17, 2006 (edited) FWIW, I consider Delhomme and Warner as top 12 QB options, and therefore, not back up options. (Clearly, if they were available as such, I'd nab them). As far as QB that I rank outside the top 12, I like these QBs as EARLY back ups: - Bledsoe, Brees, Culpepper As far as LATE back up QBs, I like: - Chris Simms, McNair, Brunnell, and depending on how things in camp shake out, *maybe* Brooks (who is generally better for fantasy than he is for NFL purposes). First off no big on the 10 vs 12 team league thing - the general idea is just talking backup QBs - But watdaeffover w/taking schleps like McNair or Brunell over Brooks? Check Brooks' career, never mind that he has a lot of weapons to throw to (and oh btw one of them is Moss) - odds of him putting up solid numbers or even better are much more likely than the guys you listed. McNair will never stay healthy, Brunell is also ancient and not exactly a passing machine.....Simms? lol. I'd trust him for production like I'd trust Virginia weather. Bledsoe and Brees I like as backups (esp Bledsoe, who I agree may go as a cheaper option starter to someone), not Culp who I also don't trust due to injury thing (plus he sucked so bad w/o Moss). Edited July 17, 2006 by BeeR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yo mama Posted July 17, 2006 Share Posted July 17, 2006 (edited) But confuse me more!o w/taking schleps like McNair or Brunell over Brooks? Check Brooks' career, never mind that he has a lot of weapons to throw to (and oh btw one of them is Moss) - odds of him putting up solid numbers or even better are much more likely than the guys you listed. McNair will never stay healthy, Brunell is also ancient and not exactly a passing machine.....Simms? lol. I'd trust him for production like I'd trust Virginia weather. Bledsoe and Brees I like as backups (esp Bledsoe, who I agree may go as a cheaper option starter to someone), not Culp who I also don't trust due to injury thing (plus he sucked so bad w/o Moss). Surprisingly, Brunell was tied with Vick as the overall #12 fantasy QB last year. Ironically, Brunnell and Brooks were tied with the same average points per game. So I really think Brunnell is a late-round back up QB who offers tremendous "bargain bin" value. Few people are going to target him, despite the fact that he'll likely produce. Plus, this year he has added receiving weapons and Portis is poised to have his best year as a Redskin (at least IMO). And Brunnell's scheudle is pretty middle of the road. McNair didn't play the whole year, and when he did it was for a Titans team adrift in craptacularness. He had a pretty respectable average points per game: about the same as Delhomme and Green. And of the regular starters last year, he had the 10th best completion percentage - a nice 61.3%. Now, consider what his surrounding cast looked like in TEN, and the fact that he'll: (1) be reunited with Mason; (2) now has access to an elite TE in Todd Heap; (3) is behind an offensive line that is capable of giving him a little more protection. All in all, McNair is (IMO, at least) a guy that will far farther than he should, which makes him another "bargin bin" back up QB that should produce better than his average draft position. And like I said earlier, Brooks has always been better for fantasy than he has for NFL. I know tons of people that won't draft the guy, no matter how far he falls. So for the rest of us that means he'll (once again) likely fall farther than he should, too. I've upped my estimates of Bledsoe, FYI. I'd probably take him in front of Trent Green and Delhomme if the draft were today. But I betcha that a lot of people are still going to be able to find him as a #2 QB on their rosters this year, which would be fortuitous. Brees is an enigma this year, with the new team, injuries, and all. I've pimped him the last two years pretty hard. But I just won't be able to get comfortable with the guy until I see him in action during preseason. Until then, I'm remaining cautiosly optomistic on him. Edited July 17, 2006 by yo mama Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeeR Posted July 17, 2006 Author Share Posted July 17, 2006 (edited) Ironically, Brunnell and Brooks were tied with the same average points per game. ? You ignore that it was Brunell's best FF year (maybe 2d best) ever and best in a long time....while Brooks' was his worst. Do you really think those 2 extremes will happen again for both QBs? So I really think Brunnell is a late-round back up QB who offers tremendous "bargain bin" value.For a QB who would be very lucky to make it through the season unscathed and has put up 20+ TDs only 3 times in 11 years, I can't imagine why. Course if it's between him and Frye... Few people are going to target himFor good reason. This year he has added receiving weapons Lloyd? Randy L? Sorry I'm not exactly impressed (OK Lloyd could make some noise - but consider Brooks' targets) McNair didn't play the whole yearHe never does. (OK rarely anyway) So you expect this ancient, creaky QB to suddenly play a whole year? of the regular starters last year, he had the 10th best completion percentage - a nice 61.3%. which most leagues don't give points for. Now, consider what his surrounding cast looked like in TEN, and the fact that he'll: (1) be reunited with Mason; (2) now has access to an elite TE in Todd Heap; (3) is behind an offensive line that is capable of giving him a little more protection. All true enough. I just don't see having an interest in a QB who is on the verge of going down any given week. And like I said earlier, Brooks has always been better for fantasy than he has for NFL. er I thought that's what we were talking about..... I've upped my estimates of Bledsoe, FYI. I'd probably take him in front of Trent Green and Delhomme if the draft were today. Wow. I wouldn't go that far, but with Owens it's not a ridiculous (although riskier) play. Brees is an enigma this year, with the new team, injuries, and all. I've pimped him the last two years pretty hard. But I just won't be able to get comfortable with the guy until I see him in action during preseason. Until then, I'm remaining cautiosly optomistic on him. Yep agree. I doubt I will pull the trigger as I expect a very erratic year from him at best, but if there isn't much else avail late in the draft, I might have to take a chance. Edited July 17, 2006 by BeeR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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