Randall Posted August 4, 2006 Share Posted August 4, 2006 I would say Art Monk Ray Guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronco Billy Posted August 4, 2006 Share Posted August 4, 2006 (edited) When LB Randy Gradishar started 10 years with the Broncos and averaged better per-game career stats in almost every significant statistical category than Ray Lewis, but still can't get into the HoF, that's a travesty & quite frankly a sick joke that tyhe voters apparently think is funny for some unfathomable reason. Edited August 4, 2006 by Bronco Billy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikesVikes Posted August 4, 2006 Share Posted August 4, 2006 Jim Marshall. Dude played, what, 19 years and never missed a game? And now a kicker breaks his record that will never be broken or even touched by any position player, ever. Let's talk about records that will never be broken by a non-kicker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikesVikes Posted August 4, 2006 Share Posted August 4, 2006 Which dude on this list isn't in the Hall? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulOttCarruth Posted August 4, 2006 Share Posted August 4, 2006 Homer vote for Sterling Sharpe. If you're going to put Gale Sayers in, you should put Sharpe in. Here's a comparison of their numbers: Sayers | Year TM | G | Att Yards Y/A TD | Rec Yards Y/R TD | 1965 chi | 14 | 166 867 5.2 14 | 29 507 17.5 6 || 1966 chi | 14 | 229 1231 5.4 8 | 34 447 13.1 2 || 1967 chi | 13 | 186 880 4.7 7 | 16 126 7.9 1 || 1968 chi | 9 | 138 856 6.2 2 | 15 117 7.8 0 || 1969 chi | 14 | 236 1032 4.4 8 | 17 116 6.8 0 || 1970 chi | 2 | 23 52 2.3 0 | 1 -6 -6.0 0 || 1971 chi | 2 | 13 38 2.9 0 | 0 0 0.0 0 |+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+| TOTAL | 68 | 991 4956 5.0 39 | 112 1307 11.7 9 Sharpe | Year TM | G | Att Yards Y/A TD | Rec Yards Y/R TD | 1988 gnb | 16 | 4 -2 -0.5 0 | 55 791 14.4 1 || 1989 gnb | 16 | 2 25 12.5 0 | 90 1423 15.8 12 || 1990 gnb | 16 | 2 14 7.0 0 | 67 1105 16.5 6 || 1991 gnb | 16 | 4 4 1.0 0 | 69 961 13.9 4 || 1992 gnb | 16 | 4 8 2.0 0 | 108 1461 13.5 13 || 1993 gnb | 16 | 4 8 2.0 0 | 112 1274 11.4 11 || 1994 gnb | 16 | 3 15 5.0 0 | 94 1119 11.9 18 |+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+| TOTAL | 112 | 23 72 3.1 0 | 595 8134 13.7 65 Same number of seasons. Sharpe had more yardage and more touchdowns. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronco Billy Posted August 4, 2006 Share Posted August 4, 2006 Oh, and then there's this guy named Jerry Kramer. He was the state-of-the-art at OG for GB during their 60s dynasty - leading the Packer sweep and was the guy who Starr followed for their victory in te Ice Bowl vs DAL. He also played a good part of his career with a huge wooden splinter in him that he had from a childhood accident. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronco Billy Posted August 4, 2006 Share Posted August 4, 2006 (edited) If Gale Sayers is the minimum standard for RBs, then Terrell Davis ought to be a lock for the HoF, but he doesn't have a snowball's chance in Hell of making it. Edited August 4, 2006 by Bronco Billy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big John Posted August 4, 2006 Share Posted August 4, 2006 Which dude on this list isn't in the Hall? 3 of them Marshall is the only one of those 3 eligable for induction as of now for the 5-year rule. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chavez Posted August 5, 2006 Share Posted August 5, 2006 Dan Reeves - 200+ wins as HC, 5 SB appearances, and he doesn't make it? C'mon... Karl Mecklenberg Jeff Van Note - Iron Man center for some bad Atlanta teams Henry Ellard - for my $ I'd have rather had him than Art Monk in the mid-80s to mid-90s And a hearty second to Marshall and Sharpe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chavez Posted August 5, 2006 Share Posted August 5, 2006 Homer vote for Sterling Sharpe. If you're going to put Gale Sayers in, you should put Sharpe in. Same number of seasons. Sharpe had more yardage and more touchdowns. My man-love for Sharpe is obvious here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chavez Posted August 5, 2006 Share Posted August 5, 2006 Which dude on this list isn't in the Hall? Hornung probably doesn't belong in the Hall - at best a two-year wonder whose rep FAR outstrips his accomplishments. Anderson IMO was a journeyman whose main asset was longevity. I think you can make an argument that Sayers, though a transcendent player, wasn't really dominant; he gets in due to highlight reel footage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Score 1 Posted August 5, 2006 Share Posted August 5, 2006 I think Troy Aikman should go in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spain Posted August 5, 2006 Share Posted August 5, 2006 Muck should definitely be in... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azazello1313 Posted August 5, 2006 Share Posted August 5, 2006 art monk and randy gradishar, and NOT john madden. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hat Trick Posted August 5, 2006 Share Posted August 5, 2006 (edited) Art Monk for sure. Of course the reason I started watching football, DT! "Pass rusher extraordinaire spent 11 glorious seasons in a Kansas City uniform … Served as the heart and soul of the Chiefs franchise during that span … Known simply as “D.T.” ... Was not only a bona fide star in terms of his contributions on the field, but also illuminated countless lives through his charitable efforts … Received the ‘93 NFL Man of the Year Award, the ‘95 Byron “Whizzer” White Award and was named former President George Bush’s “832nd Point of Light” ... On the field, was one of the most dominant defensive players of his day thanks to his patented sack-and-strip maneuver … Established Chiefs career records for sacks (126.5), safeties (3), fumble recoveries (18) and forced fumbles (45) ... His 126.5 sacks were the fourth-highest total ever by a linebacker at the time of his death … Produced a club-record 20.0 sacks in ‘90, included an NFL-record seven sacks in a single game … The only player in Chiefs history to see action in three different decades with his final contest coming on January 2, 2000 … Saw duty in 169 games (158) starts and owns a share of another franchise mark with 10 career playoff appearances … Won the Mack Lee Hill Award as a rookie in ‘89 … Produced nine consecutive Pro Bowl berths from ‘89-97, the most of any player in Chiefs history … Was the initial two-time winner (’91, 94) of the club’s MVP trophy which now bears his name … Born January 1, 1967 in Miami, Florida and died on February 8, 2000 in Miami, Florida following a serious auto accident on January 23, 2000 in Kansas City." Edited August 5, 2006 by Hat Trick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikesVikes Posted August 5, 2006 Share Posted August 5, 2006 3 of them Marshall is the only one of those 3 eligable for induction as of now for the 5-year rule. Gary Andersen may or not make it. Very tough for a kicker to make the HOF. Btw, I'd prefer him to miss about 20 FGs during regular season if he could just make one more during the playoffs. BJ, did you mean eligible? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big John Posted August 5, 2006 Share Posted August 5, 2006 BJ, did you mean eligible? I have had a bad case of yukonitis lately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skins Posted August 5, 2006 Share Posted August 5, 2006 Art Monk belongs in the Hall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muck Posted August 5, 2006 Share Posted August 5, 2006 Muck should definitely be in... Man, that'd be sweet! Thanks for the write in vote! Wait ... are you talking about the NFL HoF, or something else? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebartender Posted August 5, 2006 Share Posted August 5, 2006 I think anyone who does not make it in their first year of eligibility should never make it. It's not like they are improving their stats so how can they not make it one year and then all of a sudden make it 3 years later or whatever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Swerski Posted August 5, 2006 Share Posted August 5, 2006 Same number of seasons. Sharpe had more yardage and more touchdowns. Nothing but respect for Sterling here, but the "Sayers Precedent" doesn't really hold anymore. If it did, Terrell Davis and Priest Holmes would be enshrined. Art Monk is a no-brainer. And I'm still puzzled why Dan Hampton is in, but Richard Dent isn't. Dent was a better player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bengal Mania Posted August 5, 2006 Share Posted August 5, 2006 Kenny Anderson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Swerski Posted August 5, 2006 Share Posted August 5, 2006 (edited) and NOT john madden. Given what Madden accomplished as a coach and how much the popularity of the NFL soared because of his work as a broadcaster and the popularity of his video game, they'd be stupid to NOT induct him. Edited August 5, 2006 by Bill Swerski Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaP'N GRuNGe Posted August 5, 2006 Share Posted August 5, 2006 Blair Thomas & Todd Marinovich Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Posted August 5, 2006 Author Share Posted August 5, 2006 Nothing but respect for Sterling here, but the "Sayers Precedent" doesn't really hold anymore. If it did, Terrell Davis and Priest Holmes would be enshrined. Yeah, but I would like to see them in(TD and Holmes). Dominance over several years means more to me than longevity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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