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TB seems to be doing nothing but running the ball with E. Graham (who i have never heard of) Only threw 3 passes the entire first half. What exactly are they doing/trying to work on with that strategy??

 

just currious

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TB seems to be doing nothing but running the ball with E. Graham (who i have never heard of) Only threw 3 passes the entire first half. What exactly are they doing/trying to work on with that strategy??

 

just currious

 

 

Not watching the game but Ernest Graham is a 3rd year back from Florida. On the small side, but can be effective in small doses.

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Well, he's actually listed on the Bucs site at 5'9 and 215:

 

Earnest Graham

 

And I didn't say he was small. I said he was on the small side. As in; smaller than prototypical size for an NFL RB. Which he is.

 

 

 

Well here is his profile from NFL.com (5'9 225):

 

http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/396967

 

We'll split the diff and say 220. :D

 

Either way I think Barber, Portis, Droughns, Caddy, James, Holmes, LT, Dunn, TJones, Parker, JJones, CMart have all done very well as full-time starters and are all 5'11 220 or smaller....

 

I would say that's more prototypical than over 6'0 225+ (LJ, Taylor, Jordan, R Johnson, MaGahee, Jackson). Even Alexander is right on the borderline (5'11, 225)....

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TB seems to be doing nothing but running the ball with E. Graham (who i have never heard of) Only threw 3 passes the entire first half. What exactly are they doing/trying to work on with that strategy??

 

just currious

 

 

Ernest Graham will prolly be our #3 runningback this season behind Caddy and Pittman. They are running the ball because they are trying to find the best O-Line combo they can.

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Well here is his profile from NFL.com (5'9 225):

 

http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/396967

 

We'll split the diff and say 220. :D

 

Either way I think Barber, Portis, Droughns, Caddy, James, Holmes, LT, Dunn, TJones, Parker, JJones, CMart have all done very well as full-time starters and are all 5'11 220 or smaller....

 

I would say that's more prototypical than over 6'0 225+ (LJ, Taylor, Jordan, R Johnson, MaGahee, Jackson). Even Alexander is right on the borderline (5'11, 225)....

 

 

 

OK. You're either a complete moran or you're just looking for an argument. :D I never said anything about how good of a player he was. I also never said that his height would stop him from being succesful in the NFL. What I said was he was on the small side. I'm not the only one who found this to be a fact. This is from a scouting report on him out of Florida, Oct 2002:

 

The Bad: Lacks a burst, open field speed and cannot run to daylight. Shorter than what one wants in an every down ball carrier.

 

Scout.com scouting report

 

I was giving some info to a huddler who had never even heard of the player before. I stand by what I said. He's on the small side.

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I missed most of the game - did Pennington start? How did he look? Could not have been too good seeing as their only 3 points came with Clemens in the 2-minute drill at the end of the half - just looking for some color.

 

 

Not that great. He got sacked on the 5 yard line and fumbled.

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OK. You're either a complete moran or you're just looking for an argument. :D I never said anything about how good of a player he was. I also never said that his height would stop him from being succesful in the NFL. What I said was he was on the small side. I'm not the only one who found this to be a fact. This is from a scouting report on him out of Florida, Oct 2002:

 

The Bad: Lacks a burst, open field speed and cannot run to daylight. Shorter than what one wants in an every down ball carrier.

 

Scout.com scouting report

 

I was giving some info to a huddler who had never even heard of the player before. I stand by what I said. He's on the small side.

 

 

No, I'm not here to argue. Just offering a different opinion on a player asked about.

 

When you mentioned "prototypical", I just wanted to show there are as many successful backs (if not more) under the prototypical size...

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CaptainShook, Please keep me out of your posts when not addressing me....

 

I guess differences of opinion are not tolerated here....

 

ROYALWITCHEESE you are a clown. All he said was that he was on the small side. At 5'9", that is an accurate statement. Why you want to argue about that is beyond me.

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Either way I think Barber, Portis, Droughns, Caddy, James, Holmes, LT, Dunn, TJones, Parker, JJones, CMart have all done very well as full-time starters and are all 5'11 220 or smaller....

 

I would say that's more prototypical than over 6'0 225+ (LJ, Taylor, Jordan, R Johnson, MaGahee, Jackson). Even Alexander is right on the borderline (5'11, 225)....

 

 

James is 6'.

 

IMO 5'10 - 6'0 is "protoypical". Graham is shorter than that. That makes him "on the small side".

 

You can't lump a guy that's 5'9" in with James, Martin, Droughns, Portis, and Williams. They've all got at least two inches on him.

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