TDFFFreak Posted August 14, 2006 Share Posted August 14, 2006 (edited) Okay. Let's talk about Portis and the your fantasy draft in the most straight forward way possible. Simple question: With what we currently know now (and the assumption that the injury will not get worse) when do you draft him in your draft? My answer: 4th pick. This happened early enough and doesn't sound serious enough to hold him back in the regular season. This guy plays hurt often and will not be playing in any more preseason games. Thought he had the chance to be a top 3 RB this year and I'd still take the shot at him. So, what pick would you now take him at if he were an option for you in a draft? Edited August 14, 2006 by TDFFFreak Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Holliday Posted August 14, 2006 Share Posted August 14, 2006 Right now I would still stay 4. but I would be eyeing Betts a little higher now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avernus Posted August 14, 2006 Share Posted August 14, 2006 4th...it was 5th...but I am saying 4th... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonorator Posted August 14, 2006 Share Posted August 14, 2006 for me, he leaves the 4-5 pick land and falls into the mix with sjax, edge, caddy, brown, rudi, etc. making that group even more fun to figure out ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wolf Posted August 14, 2006 Share Posted August 14, 2006 Different spin on this...we have a one player keeper in our auction league and Portis was kept by another owner. He's a huge 'Skins homer as well. Cost was $89 out of a $300 salary cap. He called to offer him to me for $60. Told him I'd think about it...BTW, I kept LJ for $20. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Posted August 14, 2006 Share Posted August 14, 2006 I've got the 5th pick in a 1st year keeper league where we keep up to 3 but only one per position. Before the shoulder injury I was hoping Portis fell to me but now I'm cosidering SJax, Caddy or Ronnie Brown (not ness. in that order). I'm hoping to hear positive news about Portis before the draft....if so I take him....and would take him at 4 if I had that pick. I haven't heard that news yet though. Has there been anymore news on the injury saying it's nothing to worry about? I haven't seen anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage Beatings Posted August 14, 2006 Share Posted August 14, 2006 I've never thought that he was a lock at the #4 spot, but I would not drop him in my rankings at all based upon this early shoulder injury (at least not as I've heard it described so far). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avernus Posted August 14, 2006 Share Posted August 14, 2006 I've got the 5th pick in a 1st year keeper league where we keep up to 3 but only one per position. Before the shoulder injury I was hoping Portis fell to me but now I'm cosidering SJax, Caddy or Ronnie Brown (not ness. in that order). I'm hoping to hear positive news about Portis before the draft....if so I take him....and would take him at 4 if I had that pick. I haven't heard that news yet though. Has there been anymore news on the injury saying it's nothing to worry about? I haven't seen anything. I am considering the same route as you... don't know if I'd follow through with it, though....it's up in the air right now.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TDFFFreak Posted August 14, 2006 Author Share Posted August 14, 2006 I've got the 5th pick in a 1st year keeper league where we keep up to 3 but only one per position. Before the shoulder injury I was hoping Portis fell to me but now I'm cosidering SJax, Caddy or Ronnie Brown (not ness. in that order). I'm hoping to hear positive news about Portis before the draft....if so I take him....and would take him at 4 if I had that pick. I haven't heard that news yet though. Has there been anymore news on the injury saying it's nothing to worry about? I haven't seen anything. Right now I am hoping that most people take this attitude. I can understand the hesitation, but I can't help but feel he is still a #4-#5 pick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Posted August 14, 2006 Share Posted August 14, 2006 Didn't see this posted. Sorry if it was. From KFFL: KFFL Breaking News Portis injury update Ryan O'Halloran, of the Washington Times, reports Washington Redskins RB Clinton Portis (shoulder) may not miss the rest of the preseason, but head coach Joe Gibbs said, "It's going to be a while before he'll play." X-rays were negative but an MRI revealed a shoulder subluxation, a temporary and partial separation caused when the ball of the upper arm slips out of the socket. "Let's get rid of some of these preseason games," said Portis. Redskins' director of sports medicine Bubba Tyer said it will be a couple days before the team knows how long Portis will be out. Portis remained disappointed. "But even if it's not serious, to be nicked going into Week 1, how often do you think defensive coordinators are going to blitz me?" he said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mojo20 Posted August 14, 2006 Share Posted August 14, 2006 If I were a Redskins fan I would be concerned that my director of sports medicine is named Bubba Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ceezo Posted August 14, 2006 Share Posted August 14, 2006 Priority News Says: Portis said the injury felt like a right shoulder injury he suffered in high school, pointing to the scar from that surgery, although this time his shoulder slipped back into place. I Smell T-R-O-U-B-L-E Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Score 1 Posted August 14, 2006 Share Posted August 14, 2006 Priority News Says: Portis said the injury felt like a right shoulder injury he suffered in high school, pointing to the scar from that surgery, although this time his shoulder slipped back into place. I Smell T-R-O-U-B-L-E I'd agree with you if it were the right shoulder he'd injured again. But since it isn't, I'm not worried. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NAUgrad Posted August 14, 2006 Share Posted August 14, 2006 (edited) It just seems to me that when I take a shot a player going into the season with an injury, I get burned. I hope that's not completely accurate as I'm holding S. Smith in one of my leagues. But in another redraft league, I've got to move Portis down a couple of notches. I guess sholder injuries can heal pretty quick, but that seems to be where most of the pounding occurs. Edited August 14, 2006 by NAUgrad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rajncajn Posted August 14, 2006 Share Posted August 14, 2006 (edited) Given his history & Washington's inconsistancy on offense I never had him at 4 anyway. This weekend only solidified that opinion for me. I personally still like Jackson & Caddilac better, but right now even Tiki looks like a safer pick. Edited August 14, 2006 by rajncajn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Scorp Posted August 14, 2006 Share Posted August 14, 2006 (edited) I was not that high on him to begin with and was hoping some one in my leagues would draft him high and leave other players for me. I hope he doesn't slip too far. Edited August 14, 2006 by T-Scorp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoungBob Posted August 14, 2006 Share Posted August 14, 2006 I've got the 10th pick in a 14 team league and the 8th pick in a 10 team league. (Nice spots, huh?) I'm hoping Portis will be gone before my selections so I won't have to give it too much thought. However, I would probably be more likely to take him in the smaller league and load up on additional backs. Before the injury, I thought Portis was up for a big season. I'm still on board with that philosophy though I'll be keeping an eye on reports between now and my drafts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Front Row Posted August 14, 2006 Share Posted August 14, 2006 (edited) The fact that he has had surgery before sends up to many flags for me to take him in the top 10 , perhaps # 11. Edited August 15, 2006 by Front Row Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fogg Posted August 15, 2006 Share Posted August 15, 2006 The fact that he has had surgery before sends up to many flags for me to take him in the top 10 , perhaps # 11. I believe that I read earlier that he had had surgery on the other shoulder (but that thread was deleted from the board). Unless he has some sort of joint hypermobility problem I wouldn't be too concerned. It's unlikely that he would have made it this far if he had some sort of congenital connective tissue disorder that would make him prone to dislocations. People who have multiple joints prone to dislocation are people who have serious problems. One shoulder dislocating over and over? Sure, happens alot. Bilaterally? Not really that common. More likely he just plays hard and gets injured sometimes just like lots of other players. Continue to consider him a 4 or 5 especially in non PPR leagues. This is just no big deal. Fogg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheezhed Posted August 15, 2006 Share Posted August 15, 2006 I believe that I read earlier that he had had surgery on the other shoulder (but that thread was deleted from the board). Unless he has some sort of joint hypermobility problem I wouldn't be too concerned. It's unlikely that he would have made it this far if he had some sort of congenital connective tissue disorder that would make him prone to dislocations. People who have multiple joints prone to dislocation are people who have serious problems. One shoulder dislocating over and over? Sure, happens alot. Bilaterally? Not really that common. More likely he just plays hard and gets injured sometimes just like lots of other players. Continue to consider him a 4 or 5 especially in non PPR leagues. This is just no big deal. Fogg Once again, nice info Fogg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rajncajn Posted August 15, 2006 Share Posted August 15, 2006 I finally saw the hit during the halftime show & I've gotta say, even though I still don't like him as high as #4 I don't think I can blame the dislocation on anything other than a massive hit. He friggin drilled that dude and came down hard with the guy's body between his shoulder & the ground. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retrograde assault Posted August 15, 2006 Share Posted August 15, 2006 I have a couple more weeks before I start drafting, so I will wait and see. He is still high on my list from what I know now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grits and Shins Posted August 15, 2006 Share Posted August 15, 2006 In my local I had the 4th pick for a week waiting for the last roll and I will licking my chops at the prospect of drafting Portis, but now I simply do not know if I can take him in the 5th hole (where I slipped to after the last roll) if he isn't taken 4th. I need my first round pick to be there week in and week out. There are too many other good options at the 5th hole out there I see no reason to take a risk on Portis. Looking at Huddle rankings Portis is only a couple points ahead of James, 20'ish in front of Brown and 30'ish in front of SJackson. I give up those points for the safer pick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caveman_Nick Posted August 15, 2006 Share Posted August 15, 2006 In my local I had the 4th pick for a week waiting for the last roll and I will licking my chops at the prospect of drafting Portis, but now I simply do not know if I can take him in the 5th hole (where I slipped to after the last roll) if he isn't taken 4th. I need my first round pick to be there week in and week out. There are too many other good options at the 5th hole out there I see no reason to take a risk on Portis. Looking at Huddle rankings Portis is only a couple points ahead of James, 20'ish in front of Brown and 30'ish in front of SJackson. I give up those points for the safer pick. Just to devil's advocate... Jackson gets knicked. Ronnie Brown has yet to do it. Edge is in a new scheme on a team that can't produce a quality rush attack. I'm not sure what makes them 'safer'. There is risk in all of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grits and Shins Posted August 15, 2006 Share Posted August 15, 2006 Just to devil's advocate... Jackson gets knicked. Ronnie Brown has yet to do it. Edge is in a new scheme on a team that can't produce a quality rush attack. I'm not sure what makes them 'safer'. There is risk in all of them. All valid points ... but Jackson isn't nicked yet like Portis Agreed RB hasn't done it yet but I'll test those waters vs taking an injured player Agreed on Edge Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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