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They were defenitly middle of the pack last year. 38 sacks allowed ranked 18th (tied with bills). IIRC Chris Samuels was a 1st round draft pick who hasnt quite lived up to his potential. I think the addition of Al Saunders will have this OL playing up to its full potential (barring injury). I'm predicting top 5 in rushing yards and sacks allowed.

 

Fantasy wise, players I wouldent mind having:

 

Clinton Portis- Will start the season, will get 1200+ yards, will get 15+TD's, will wear funny outfits on Thursdays. :D

 

Chris Cooley- 2005 (3rd season) 71/774/10 is defenitly money in TE man. leagues and would make a solid #3 wr. I see an uptick in his stats with the addition of Saunders (see Gonzalez).

 

Santana Moss- 2005 84/1483/9 Lower tier #1wr awesome #2. I see a pretty big drop off in production for him this year in yardage. The Skins wont be playing from behind as much as last year and they have a solid chain mover in RandelEl.

 

Redskins Team D- They are flying all over the field this pre-season. Had a bit of a drop-off last year but in 2004 they were a top 5 fantasy D in my league. I see a return to '04 form this year. Expect a lot of picks and fumbles caused by this secondary: CB's Carlos Rodgers/Sean Springs S's Adam Archuletta/Sean Taylor. All big hitters. I see many dropped passes/forced fumbles/interceptions. Shorter fields means more points for everyone.

 

Brandon Lloyd- He has always been the #1 wr on a team with no running game and no other wr threats. We've all seen his many highlight reel grabs. Without the constant double teams I think he has the chance to steal the #1 spot. I will be targeting him as my #4/5 wr flier.

 

So for you to lump this offense in with the Jets and the Texans is obviously utter nonsense and I accept your apology sir. :D

 

 

Yes, I realize that there is upside in the Redskins offense. No sh!t, Sherlock. Thanks for the tip.

 

But there's a sh!tload of risk as well. If you want to roll the dice on an injury-prone Brunell playing a full season, go ahead. And if you feel comfortable with Todd Collins and/or Jason Campbell potentially playing much of this season behind center, go ahead.

 

BTW, I never EQUATED the Redskins to the Jets and Texans. I simply said that I'm "not high on them." Try reading next time, pea brain.

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Yes, I realize that there is upside in the Redskins offense. No sh!t, Sherlock. Thanks for the tip.

 

But there's a sh!tload of risk as well. If you want to roll the dice on an injury-prone Brunell playing a full season, go ahead. And if you feel comfortable with Todd Collins and/or Jason Campbell potentially playing much of this season behind center, go ahead.

 

BTW, I equated the Redskins to the Jets and Texans. I simply said that I'm "not high on them." Try reading next time, pea brain.

 

 

Apology accepted.

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Minnesota should be on your hot list---especially since Chester went 9 for 18 the other nite & the K-rob troubles

 

The hits just keep on comming for the Vikes.

 

Add their #1 pick OLB Greenway being lost for the season to an as yet to be defined knee injury and Safety Tank Williams being placed on IR with a busted knee cap. :D

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I'm in a couple of 16 team dynasty leagues.... so, Jets like Coles, Cotchery (who has taken over from McCariens as the #2 WR) and Tim Dwight are draftable players. Houston is worth a late round flyer/sleeper pick.

 

It's silly to say that one would swear off any team's players. Driver will be a stud, even if GB is horrible. Looks like Antonio Bryant could be a good #4 WR this year. Write off any team, and you will field a weaker roster because of it.

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I'm in a couple of 16 team dynasty leagues.... so, Jets like Coles, Cotchery (who has taken over from McCariens as the #2 WR) and Tim Dwight are draftable players. Houston is worth a late round flyer/sleeper pick.

 

It's silly to say that one would swear off any team's players. Driver will be a stud, even if GB is horrible. Looks like Antonio Bryant could be a good #4 WR this year. Write off any team, and you will field a weaker roster because of it.

 

 

 

Naw, I disagree- enough quality players, good offensive teams you can avoid some horrible teams and field a great team. I will have no part of most guys from SF, NYJ, Chi, Buff, Cle- and be just fine. A guy like Driver is a stud, no question, but I still think you downgrade him a bit, and all things being equal, I like other WR over him at his spot in most drafts.

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Naw, I disagree- enough quality players, good offensive teams you can avoid some horrible teams and field a great team. I will have no part of most guys from SF, NYJ, Chi, Buff, Cle- and be just fine. A guy like Driver is a stud, no question, but I still think you downgrade him a bit, and all things being equal, I like other WR over him at his spot in most drafts.

 

 

 

I think its all about where you draft these guys and where you are counting on them to contribute. If you draft Coles as your Number 1 WR you are asking for a trip to the basement, but if you can get him as a number 3 or number 4 WR, I cant imagine that would be a horrible situation. Fact is, he is the number 1 WR on a Jets team that isnt going to put up a lot of points, but need a play maker badly and he is the best they have. So you can still count on 5-6 receptions per game and 5-7 TDs from the only difference maker on the squad.

 

The worst teams still do score points and TDs, just not as much as the others.

 

I feel this is a really obvious statement to make, but you obviously would take Coles before you drafted someone like Brandon Stokely. If not, I will make a spot for you in my league any time.

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I think its all about where you draft these guys and where you are counting on them to contribute. If you draft Coles as your Number 1 WR you are asking for a trip to the basement, but if you can get him as a number 3 or number 4 WR, I cant imagine that would be a horrible situation. Fact is, he is the number 1 WR on a Jets team that isnt going to put up a lot of points, but need a play maker badly and he is the best they have. So you can still count on 5-6 receptions per game and 5-7 TDs from the only difference maker on the squad.

 

The worst teams still do score points and TDs, just not as much as the others.

 

I feel this is a really obvious statement to make, but you obviously would take Coles before you drafted someone like Brandon Stokely. If not, I will make a spot for you in my league any time.

 

 

 

Of course, I am talking in relation to where they are picked. There are places where those guys are a good value, - But we all know Coles is not going anywhere near a WR3,4 in any drafts- period.

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Of course, I am talking in relation to where they are picked. There are places where those guys are a good value, - But we all know Coles is not going anywhere near a WR3,4 in any drafts- period.

 

 

I wouldn't say that. Coles is a low Tier 3 WR. He'd make a good #4 and a decent #3 in deeper leagues. Brandon Lloyd and Antonio Bryant were on horrible offenses last season and either would've made a halfway decent #3 in a 12-team league.

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Of course, I am talking in relation to where they are picked. There are places where those guys are a good value, - But we all know Coles is not going anywhere near a WR3,4 in any drafts- period.

 

 

Have to disagree strongly here.... Coles looks good for 75-900-6. Possibly better than that, depending. If that isn't "anywhere near WR 3 or 4", it's a five team league. I'd suggest you revisit your rankings.

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Have to disagree strongly here.... Coles looks good for 75-900-6. Possibly better than that, depending. If that isn't "anywhere near WR 3 or 4", it's a five team league. I'd suggest you revisit your rankings.

 

 

 

To be clear- I agree on your #'s for Coles. I think he is a solid #2, at worst a WR3- and is gone in most drafts before you ever get to WR3,4. My point was just that depending on who is on the board, there are other WR I would grab b4 Coles just based off the NYJ offense, if they are basically a toss-up. But if he would happen to slide- yeah, I would grab him np.

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Santana Moss, Brandon Lloyd, Randel EL, Cooley AND Portis outa the backfield.... who do you double?

 

Moss maybe in certain situations but none of the others damand a double and that's good for the defense. If Brunell can stay healthy/mobile and Portis comes back strong the Skins will be fine.

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