DrSpade Posted August 19, 2006 Share Posted August 19, 2006 I was trying to find the preseason IDP rankings on the main site. I saw the deep sleeper IDP article, but could not find the overall rankings. Our draft is on the 22nd. Am I looking in the wrong place? Any info would be appreciated. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big John Posted August 19, 2006 Share Posted August 19, 2006 It is in the drop-down under Rankings. http://www.thehuddle.com/x6/pre/rank-idp.php Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrSpade Posted August 19, 2006 Author Share Posted August 19, 2006 It is in the drop-down under Rankings. http://www.thehuddle.com/x6/pre/rank-idp.php Thank you much Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Posted August 19, 2006 Share Posted August 19, 2006 It is in the drop-down under Rankings. http://www.thehuddle.com/x6/pre/rank-idp.php Those seem pretty old. Do they get updated? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtomicCEO Posted August 19, 2006 Share Posted August 19, 2006 Out of curiosity... who did those rankings? There is no author attributed to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beaumont Posted August 19, 2006 Share Posted August 19, 2006 Out of curiosity... who did those rankings? There is no author attributed to it. Sarge Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big John Posted August 19, 2006 Share Posted August 19, 2006 Those seem pretty old. Do they get updated? It said Updated August 16. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt. Ryan Posted August 20, 2006 Share Posted August 20, 2006 Those seem pretty old. Do they get updated? How do they seem old. What seems old to you. Inquiring minds want to know. Rankings have been updated twice since Aug 1, but I do not put much stock into preseason games, and re-arrange my original thoughts much based on games that are used for evaluating backups and practice squad players. If you see something that is questionable to you, send me a PM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Posted August 20, 2006 Share Posted August 20, 2006 How do they seem old. What seems old to you. Inquiring minds want to know. Rankings have been updated twice since Aug 1, but I do not put much stock into preseason games, and re-arrange my original thoughts much based on games that are used for evaluating backups and practice squad players. If you see something that is questionable to you, send me a PM. PM sent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hooknladder Posted August 25, 2006 Share Posted August 25, 2006 I love this site and I don't want to offend...but the IDP info seems a little weak. Not much content, not alot of stats or projections. There seems to be more IDP interest on this site than ever before and the Huddle has an opportunity to really step-up and become the IDP authority. Again, I love this site, and it's the main one I use for years now. It's just my observation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt770 Posted August 25, 2006 Share Posted August 25, 2006 I love this site and I don't want to offend...but the IDP info seems a little weak. Not much content, not alot of stats or projections. There seems to be more IDP interest on this site than ever before and the Huddle has an opportunity to really step-up and become the IDP authority. Again, I love this site, and it's the main one I use for years now. It's just my observation. +1 (respectfully). I'm getting more and more involved in IDP leagues. So far most of my opponents have looked at defensive players as an afterthought, so I've been able to draft a lot of studs. I have a feeling this will change over the next few years as IDP gains popularity, so it would be great to see more in-depth analysis of the middle and low tier players, similar to what we have for offensive players. A few of my league mates have surprised me with sleeper LB picks that I wasn't aware of until I did some digging. I'd like to know about those guys before my drafts! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darin3 Posted August 25, 2006 Share Posted August 25, 2006 I love this site and I don't want to offend...but the IDP info seems a little weak. Not much content, not alot of stats or projections. There seems to be more IDP interest on this site than ever before and the Huddle has an opportunity to really step-up and become the IDP authority. Again, I love this site, and it's the main one I use for years now. It's just my observation. +1 (respectfully). I'm getting more and more involved in IDP leagues. So far most of my opponents have looked at defensive players as an afterthought, so I've been able to draft a lot of studs. I have a feeling this will change over the next few years as IDP gains popularity, so it would be great to see more in-depth analysis of the middle and low tier players, similar to what we have for offensive players. A few of my league mates have surprised me with sleeper LB picks that I wasn't aware of until I did some digging. I'd like to know about those guys before my drafts! Duly noted from both of you. Appreciate your thoughts. But, aside from the lack of projected stats, I think our IDP content is virtually all-encompassing and beyond solid. Believe me, Sarge's rankings are the best on the 'net. His weekly IDP column will again be informative as heck. And matt, if you noticed the thread starter's post, you would have seen that there WAS a preseason IDP sleeper piece. And, as I did last season, I'll be preparing a weekly IDP Sleeper piece. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt. Ryan Posted August 25, 2006 Share Posted August 25, 2006 (edited) +1 (respectfully). I'm getting more and more involved in IDP leagues. So far most of my opponents have looked at defensive players as an afterthought, so I've been able to draft a lot of studs. I have a feeling this will change over the next few years as IDP gains popularity, so it would be great to see more in-depth analysis of the middle and low tier players, similar to what we have for offensive players. A few of my league mates have surprised me with sleeper LB picks that I wasn't aware of until I did some digging. I'd like to know about those guys before my drafts! Ive approached DMD last year and again this year about putting projections in the magazie, which are also posted on the site and he thought that wasnt warranted. When your boss tells you what he wants, you do it. If you want more next season, and DMD gives me /Darin the green light, we will gladly put out projections. There is already a column about deep sleepers, Im working on another one involving players you need to know about. There is also the magazie that has several nice writeups, that I believe are also posted on the site about sleepers, rookie rankings, etc. The SOFA IDP draft was posted as soon as it was completed, and is a great tool to look at players drafted whom you may not know about from the so called experts in the industy. This forum is what you guys make of it. Some post and bring info to the table, some ask questions, and some b*tch about what is not here. This forum will only be as active as its members posting here, and asking questions. Several IDP Vets have answered questions that have been posted to date, and this will continue. Edited August 25, 2006 by Sgt. Ryan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt. Ryan Posted August 25, 2006 Share Posted August 25, 2006 Beginning on Sept 6, before Opening Night, an IDP Start/Bench will be published each week in the paid material area. There will be info needed for the novice IDP player, starting only 1 player Def player per position, to the extreme IDP player that consists of 16 team leagues with up to 8 or 9 IDP players starting each week. Last year, I lost some readers with the detail of the sleepers and best bets each week, as some only wanted a ranking of each weeks best plays for the week, and thought that would be easier to use for their lineups each week. This year there will be both, a ranking each week, for those wanting that, and reasons why they are ranked where they are. Often there will be sleepers ranked higher than studs from week to week based on the matchup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darin3 Posted August 25, 2006 Share Posted August 25, 2006 The SOFA IDP draft was posted as soon as it was completed, and is a great tool to look at players drafted whom you may not know about from the so called experts in the industy. Another good tool on top of the rankings and articles... expert mock drafts. Beginning on Sept 6, before Opening Night, an IDP Start/Bench will be published each week in the paid material area. There will be info needed for the novice IDP player, starting only 1 player Def player per position, to the extreme IDP player that consists of 16 team leagues with up to 8 or 9 IDP players starting each week. Last year, I lost some readers with the detail of the sleepers and best bets each week, as some only wanted a ranking of each weeks best plays for the week, and thought that would be easier to use for their lineups each week. This year there will be both, a ranking each week, for those wanting that, and reasons why they are ranked where they are. Often there will be sleepers ranked higher than studs from week to week based on the matchup. Like I said, this'll be the cream of the crop in terms of IDP info. For those in deeper leagues, I will publish a weekly rundown of sleepers who "should" be in most leagues' free agent pools. The reason this - and other - site(s) publish projections as well as rankings for offensive positions is due to the fact that there are so many variations in terms of scoring: PPR, TD-only, etc. Most leagues with IDPs score pretty much the same. In my opinion, the necessity for defensive projections is less important due to this fact. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hooknladder Posted August 26, 2006 Share Posted August 26, 2006 I certainly hope my post is not percieved as bit@hing, and I'm not only speaking of projections, rather previous years stats and content. not necesarily deep sleeper picks, but rather a more solid position ranking. I'm not complaining about the site...just suggesting this would be a good time to pick up the IDP ball and run with it...-before the others do(other sites), as IDP becomes more popular. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt770 Posted August 26, 2006 Share Posted August 26, 2006 Sounds like some great new stuff is on the way, thanks Sarge & Darin! Looking forward to the IDP start & bench. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darin3 Posted August 26, 2006 Share Posted August 26, 2006 I certainly hope my post is not percieved as bit@hing, and I'm not only speaking of projections, rather previous years stats and content. not necesarily deep sleeper picks, but rather a more solid position ranking. I'm not complaining about the site...just suggesting this would be a good time to pick up the IDP ball and run with it...-before the others do(other sites), as IDP becomes more popular. Perhaps I'm misunderstanding you. What do you mean by "more solid position ranking"? Could you offer up some content suggestions that goes beyond rankings and sleeper lists? And again, we certainly appreciate and welcome the suggestions and eager nature to improve The Huddle's content. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gilthorp Posted August 26, 2006 Share Posted August 26, 2006 I certainly hope my post is not percieved as bit@hing, and I'm not only speaking of projections, rather previous years stats and content. not necesarily deep sleeper picks, but rather a more solid position ranking. I'm not complaining about the site...just suggesting this would be a good time to pick up the IDP ball and run with it...-before the others do(other sites), as IDP becomes more popular. With all due respect to Sarge and Darin, because I know for a fact they both work their butts off to provide good information to this site. However, I've always felt that providing IDP projections at the beginning of the year is a swag at best...that's not to say that this is only guesswork, but there's so many variables on this side of the ball. The projections for a given year would be so hard to do...the tackles might be the easiest, but sacks, turnovers, TD's...that is nearly impossible. The reason why this is the case is not because we don't know a certain scheme that the D unit will employ, but the simple fact that each week is going to be a gameplan against their next opponent's weaknesses that they see on film. Without having that unique knowledge of how a DCoordinator is scheming against a weak offense, throwing yearly projections in my opinion is just silly. When you can start to trend after a few weeks, the projections do become easier. The IDP content of this site really starts to pick up steam after the first few weeks are done, and even then, it's really about feel and educated assumptions. But if you feel there is something missing in that content, I would suggest you provide a constructive idea. If your idea is just that there needs to be Projected Stats before the season starts, I would argue with you that it is a waste of time. My simple suggestion to the player rankings would be a tiering system, much like the Huddle uses on offense...and perhaps the powers that be should get into a discussion about that. The simple fact that there aren't 15+ years of stats that tell you what a MLB does in a 4-3 compared to one of the ILB's in 3-4, especially if that 3-4 plays a Tampa Cover 2. What about the stats that employ a dime package to start the game against the NFC Central, or if a team plays 40% of the time in a dime against the St. Louis Rams? None of this exists that I know of. It's about the feel, and these guys do a good job--cut them a little slack. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrSpade Posted August 26, 2006 Author Share Posted August 26, 2006 I guess some don't place much stock into the preseason games; however, are there any sleepers which may creep into the top 10 or even top 5? Also, have any studs taken a dip so far? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hooknladder Posted August 27, 2006 Share Posted August 27, 2006 I guess one thing I would find useful is year-to-year DEF scheme changes as well as player/coaching changes like position chages, DEF coaching philosophy and new personel that could affect any given player. Maybe not so much statistical projections , which are impossible in some areas. All-in-all you guys do a great job with IDP...I'm just always trying to get my hands on more. (I know I don't have any room to b@tch, seeing as how I don't really contribute very much in the forum you have created for people like me. -not that I won't...I just usually can't. I will try to make a greater effort this year,((it is what we make it))) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darin3 Posted August 27, 2006 Share Posted August 27, 2006 coaching changes like position chages, DEF coaching philosophy and new personel that could affect any given player OK, here ya go... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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