RokoMotion Posted September 2, 2006 Share Posted September 2, 2006 Not a lot has been mentioned about Andre Johnson this summer, after he was so highly touted last year. What do you guys think will happen with him this year? Does Eric Moulds beside him boost his numbers, and how much? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NAUgrad Posted September 2, 2006 Share Posted September 2, 2006 I think Andre has a nice bounce back season. The o-line and running game should improve thus giving Carr more time in the backfield. He likes AJ and will throw to him a bunch. I see AJ as a #2 or good #3 WR this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HowboutthemCowboys Posted September 2, 2006 Share Posted September 2, 2006 I'm avoiding Andre this year.He's being drafted too high again IMO and until the line proves they can keep Carr on his feet I think Johnson will be a bust. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peepinmofo Posted September 2, 2006 Share Posted September 2, 2006 While he is being drafted too high (and by that I mean anything higher then round 6 IMO), I think this is the year he breaks out consitently. With Moulds on the other side, they wont be able to doube team either one of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cliaz Posted September 2, 2006 Share Posted September 2, 2006 I've seen a trend with im in the preseason - all big gains go to moulds. I drafted him in the 7th round hoping to get 1100 yards and 6 to 8 tds from him. I hope he gives that too me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spain Posted September 2, 2006 Share Posted September 2, 2006 I think Johnson will bounce back this year. Moulds should take some of the defensive pressure off Johnson and free him up more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Egret Posted September 2, 2006 Share Posted September 2, 2006 Why will he have a better year? I can't think of any reasons other than Moulds helping to even out the coverage. I can think of plenty of reasons why he won't "blow up" this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burton164 Posted September 2, 2006 Share Posted September 2, 2006 I took him at 7.08 as my 2nd WR. With Mould there now and some OL additions 7 or 8 TD's is not out of the question. as long as he stays healthy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ursa Majoris Posted September 2, 2006 Share Posted September 2, 2006 I have him in two leagues as #2 WR when others bypassed him. I took the view that he can't be worse than last year and was likely the best option left on the board. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giantsfan Posted September 2, 2006 Share Posted September 2, 2006 (edited) I took him as my # 3 WR in late round 5 in a 12 teamer. I think he will be okay. Moulds should help, the new O should help, and an improved OL should help. I wouldn't say blow up but 75-80 catches, 1200 yds, and 8 or so TD's is within reason. Edited September 2, 2006 by giantsfan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irish Posted September 2, 2006 Share Posted September 2, 2006 Why will he have a better year? I can't think of any reasons other than Moulds helping to even out the coverage. I can think of plenty of reasons why he won't "blow up" this year. And they are? I feel that a very solid year is on the way. Like 80 rec. 1250 yds 9 tds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Egret Posted September 2, 2006 Share Posted September 2, 2006 And they are? I feel that a very solid year is on the way. Like 80 rec. 1250 yds 9 tds. I honestly think, what you see is what you get. He's very talented, but he plays on a team that can't get him the ball effectively. He's already had his breakout year: 2004. Now teams have adjusted and covered him differently. I don't watch a lot of Texans games to know how that's happening, but he had a 4 ypc drop from 2004 and 2003. That seems like someone who has been catching things underneath, but not getting past a safety. He's got a QB that is hampered by an ineffective o-line. The new head coach wants to install the Denver offense. He's going to get the ball between the 20s, but not in the red zone. 80 rec 1250 yds and 9 tds would be new career highs for him in all three categories. I think he'll hover near 1000 yards with 65-75 rec and 4-5 tds. That's what his career highs have been so far. I don't see any reason to move his numbers higher other than the signing of Eric Moulds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giants56 Posted September 2, 2006 Share Posted September 2, 2006 Being drafted way too high. Will Moulds help? maybe a little But he still has David Carr as his QB and a putrid offense and team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giantsfan Posted September 2, 2006 Share Posted September 2, 2006 (edited) I honestly think, what you see is what you get. He's very talented, but he plays on a team that can't get him the ball effectively. He's already had his breakout year: 2004. Now teams have adjusted and covered him differently. I don't watch a lot of Texans games to know how that's happening, but he had a 4 ypc drop from 2004 and 2003. That seems like someone who has been catching things underneath, but not getting past a safety. He's got a QB that is hampered by an ineffective o-line. The new head coach wants to install the Denver offense. He's going to get the ball between the 20s, but not in the red zone. 80 rec 1250 yds and 9 tds would be new career highs for him in all three categories. I think he'll hover near 1000 yards with 65-75 rec and 4-5 tds. That's what his career highs have been so far. I don't see any reason to move his numbers higher other than the signing of Eric Moulds. So added Moulds, added some receiving TE's in Putzier and Daniels, have a new coaching staff with a better idea of how an O should be run, and they have improved their OL as well. To me again not a boom year but a good solid top 15-20 WR year. 75-80 catches, 1200 yards, and 8 or so TD's. Edited September 2, 2006 by giantsfan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giantsfan Posted September 2, 2006 Share Posted September 2, 2006 Being drafted way too high. Will Moulds help? maybe a little But he still has David Carr as his QB and a putrid offense and team. What is too high in your opinion? 5th or 6th round because that's the earliest I've seen him go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crispirons Posted September 2, 2006 Share Posted September 2, 2006 BOOOOOOM!!! 3rd yr wr, different offensive philosophy, moulds on the other side over.....who was it last yr? gafney??? bradford?? lol. lots of reason for optimism imo. unsettled rb situation, might be playing from behind often, not to mention the fact, he has all the tools to be a great one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chargerz Posted September 2, 2006 Share Posted September 2, 2006 I have him in two leagues as #2 WR when others bypassed him. I took the view that he can't be worse than last year and was likely the best option left on the board. I picked him in one of my leagues for the same reason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kraftykraft Posted September 2, 2006 Share Posted September 2, 2006 I'm not sure that a Houston team without much discernable progress on the O-line and without a healthy proven stud running back like Dom Davis allows for much of an improvement in the passing game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rebdog Posted September 2, 2006 Share Posted September 2, 2006 same old....same old. why is Carr given so much slack? i know the Oline isn't good, but can he make any plays? he looks the part...but looks can kill. Johnson is a beast, but he has to rely on the below-average talent around him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwolf68 Posted September 2, 2006 Share Posted September 2, 2006 Andre Johnson and Michael Clayton will be excellent rebound picks this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spain Posted September 2, 2006 Share Posted September 2, 2006 Andre Johnson and Michael Clayton will be excellent rebound picks this year. +1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spot7 Posted September 2, 2006 Share Posted September 2, 2006 Andre Johnson and Michael Clayton will be excellent rebound picks this year. I hope your right I drafted them both Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaP'N GRuNGe Posted September 2, 2006 Share Posted September 2, 2006 Any thoughts on what kind of numbers Moulds may put up. He's my 4th WR on one of my teams. Well, he and Porter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giants56 Posted September 2, 2006 Share Posted September 2, 2006 What is too high in your opinion? 5th or 6th round because that's the earliest I've seen him go. Each leagues draft flows differently so that's hard to say but 5th round is too early to me. I've seen him go ahead of Hines Ward which is ridiculous in my opinion. And I find the theory that adding a better second receiver upping someone's numbers to be poor. Washington added 2 WRs and everyone is predicting Santana Moss's numbers to go down. Same with Steve Smith and adding Keyshawn. Were Marvin Harrison's #'s better when there was no 2nd threat or after Wayne emerged? The answer is before Wayne emerged. The second threat makes a team better but doesn't increase the stud WRs numbers. If anything, it takes away from them a little bit. It may help Moulds numbers but you still have to deal with the fact that they don't have an NFL level starting QB on their roster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giantsfan Posted September 2, 2006 Share Posted September 2, 2006 Each leagues draft flows differently so that's hard to say but 5th round is too early to me. I've seen him go ahead of Hines Ward which is ridiculous in my opinion. And I find the theory that adding a better second receiver upping someone's numbers to be poor. Washington added 2 WRs and everyone is predicting Santana Moss's numbers to go down. Same with Steve Smith and adding Keyshawn. Were Marvin Harrison's #'s better when there was no 2nd threat or after Wayne emerged? The answer is before Wayne emerged. The second threat makes a team better but doesn't increase the stud WRs numbers. If anything, it takes away from them a little bit. It may help Moulds numbers but you still have to deal with the fact that they don't have an NFL level starting QB on their roster. 1. In my league I got AJ late round 5. Ward went late round 3. Overall in a 12 team league late round 5 or round 6 is IMO no way too early for AJ. At that point you should have 2 RB's and 2 WR's on your team already or 2 RB's, a top QB, and a WR already. So that is right where he should go 5th or 6th IMO. 2. As for the adding Moulds theory it works like this. When your team has NO other and I mean NO other threat at all adding another threat in Moulds, and actually 2 if you count Putzier as a small threat, should open things up and loosen up the coverage on him. In Wash Moss had Cooley to catch some passes. And people think he overacheived last season that is why adding 2 more threats is thought to lower his #'s. But he is still a 3rd or 4th round pick Same on a lesser extent with Smith. EVERY pass went to him last season. With Key there that won't be the case anymore. Plus it would be VERY difficult for Smith to be as good as last season. His #'s were insane. But he is still a late 1st early 2nd rounder. 3. But overall I agree. If Carr doesn't perform at least somewhat decently this all doesn't matter. I am tired of all this OL stuff with Carr. He needs to step up and stop hiding behind that excuse. This season he has some passing weapons, a new HC, and a little improved OL. So time to step up for him. But is he doesn't I agree AJ still struggles. With all that said AJ had NO shot the past 2 seasons. They had NO other receiver on the team that needed any attention. NO # 2 WR and NO TE at all. So adding some weapons HAS to loosen the coverage on him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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