ebartender Posted September 3, 2006 Share Posted September 3, 2006 I am in a keeper league (roster in signature - keep 7 players) and our keepers were due yesterday by 5PM. I had my roster cut to 8 players for a few weeks but couldn't decide who to keep between Jerry Porter & Chris Brown. I thought I put in the drop request for Porter yesterday before I went out. When I got home late last night I had an email from the co-commish who said since I had 8 players and Porter was listed as "active" he dropped Chris Brown. Now I don't know why Porter was active since I didn't start him in the championship last year, but does he have the right to pick which one I keep without even giving me a call? I already have an email in to the other commish. I know this is between Porter & Brown so who cares, but it is the point that he decided who my last keeper was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peepinmofo Posted September 3, 2006 Share Posted September 3, 2006 I think it should be decided by him if you havent declared by the deadline, but he should have kept the obvious one, and that is Brown. You might want to have them add something in the rules for this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grits and Shins Posted September 3, 2006 Share Posted September 3, 2006 You put yourself in this boat by not meeting the specified deadline. How do the rules say the commissioner should address a situation where keepers are not declared by the deadline? Bottom line ... you should have declared your keepers prior to the deadline and this predictament is your fault. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebartender Posted September 3, 2006 Author Share Posted September 3, 2006 I think it should be decided by him if you havent declared by the deadline, but he should have kept the obvious one, and that is Brown. You might want to have them add something in the rules for this. But if he had time to send me an email, couldn't he give me a call before he did it. I mean what if I didn't drop anyone because I couldn't get to my PC in time? Would he just choose all my keepers for me without calling? I think that decision was bush-league. Hopefully the other commish allows me to keep Brown instead. It's not like I was purposely holding off putting in my keepers for some reason. I just forgot to drop the one guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebartender Posted September 3, 2006 Author Share Posted September 3, 2006 (edited) You put yourself in this boat by not meeting the specified deadline. How do the rules say the commissioner should address a situation where keepers are not declared by the deadline? Bottom line ... you should have declared your keepers prior to the deadline and this predictament is your fault. There is no rule that states that the commish can add/drop any players for other teams. I understand I should have made sure, but like I said I thought I put in the drop request. The fact that he thought it was important enough to send me an email, but not to call me is what pisses me off. I don't have time to check my email every 10 minutes, but I do answer my cell phone. Edited September 3, 2006 by ebartender Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebartender Posted September 3, 2006 Author Share Posted September 3, 2006 BTW, I just founf out that one other team had 1 extra player still and another team had all their players still. This guy called both of those owners but only sent me an email. Now I am even more pissed off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGrunt Posted September 3, 2006 Share Posted September 3, 2006 Bottom line ... you should have declared your keepers prior to the deadline and this predictament is your fault. +1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebartender Posted September 3, 2006 Author Share Posted September 3, 2006 Like I said, I declared all keepers but one, two weeks or so prior to the deadline. I thought I made the request to drop Porter as my last player to drop hours before the deadline but apparently I did not. I understand what the rules are (even though there are no rules for this situation), but there are multiple posts on the league site with owners putting in their keeper lists after the 5PM deadline - including one team who didn't drop a single player until after the 5PM deadline. Deadline was 5PM and some owners sent there keepers in after 7PM. So why are some owners allowed to get around the deadline but I cannot? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramhock Posted September 3, 2006 Share Posted September 3, 2006 (edited) You sent the email to drop Porter and didn't change your sig? Sounds Edited September 3, 2006 by Ramhock Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steelhead Posted September 3, 2006 Share Posted September 3, 2006 You put yourself in this boat by not meeting the specified deadline. How do the rules say the commissioner should address a situation where keepers are not declared by the deadline? Bottom line ... you should have declared your keepers prior to the deadline and this predictament is your fault. 100% correct Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebartender Posted September 3, 2006 Author Share Posted September 3, 2006 (edited) You sent the email to drop Porter and didn't change your sig? Sounds I thought I sent the drop request through the website yesterday before I went out for the night. I will change my sig once we draft on Thursday. I original changed my sig when I cut my roster to 8 in case I had any trade or draft questions. Edited September 3, 2006 by ebartender Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebartender Posted September 3, 2006 Author Share Posted September 3, 2006 Does anyone think it is odd that other owners were allowed to declare their keepers after the deadline but they decided to choose my keeper for me? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGrunt Posted September 3, 2006 Share Posted September 3, 2006 Does anyone think it is odd that other owners were allowed to declare their keepers after the deadline but they decided to choose my keeper for me? It depends on if they have seperate keeper deadlines for each team. If your team deadline ended, and you still had more than the allowed amount of keepers, IMO your commish had every right to select a keeper for you. Although if the deadline for everyone ended, and he selected a keeper for you but still allowed other people to make a keeper choice who had not yet made their final decisions then you might have a problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramhock Posted September 3, 2006 Share Posted September 3, 2006 (edited) Why won't he make the change, is he jealous of your avatar? If the commish can do that, why didn't he remove Alexander from your squad? Edited September 3, 2006 by Ramhock Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theeohiostate Posted September 3, 2006 Share Posted September 3, 2006 (edited) If a deadline was set for keepers, then it's on you. How else did you think the keepers would be determined if people didn't make the deadline? I had this happen in a keeper league this season, i sent at least 5 emails in the weeks leading to the deadline, still someone had an extra player on their team and i used my judgement to make their drop to meet the deadline. The only thing i fault your commish for is he should have consulted the other co-commish and made the decision with him. I would bring that up on your behalf, can't believe he would have the FF IQ to give you Porter over Brown though Edited September 3, 2006 by theeohiostate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ursa Majoris Posted September 3, 2006 Share Posted September 3, 2006 But if he had time to send me an email, couldn't he give me a call before he did it. I mean what if I didn't drop anyone because I couldn't get to my PC in time How much do you pay this guy? Answer - probably nothing. Why should he go out of his way to bend the rules for you? As for the "get to the PC in time" - didn't you say you have been mulling this over for weeks? I commish a league too and I have no time for those that can't follow simple instructions or read rules. Sorry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ursa Majoris Posted September 3, 2006 Share Posted September 3, 2006 Does anyone think it is odd that other owners were allowed to declare their keepers after the deadline but they decided to choose my keeper for me? Now THAT would be wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebartender Posted September 3, 2006 Author Share Posted September 3, 2006 Now THAT would be wrong. That is my problem. I understand that it was my fault for not confirming that I dropped Porter. I never questioned that. But I have two problems with how it was handled: 1 - Since all keepers were due at 5PM yesterday, why were some owners allowed to send their keepers in after the deadline but the commish decided to pick my last keeper for me? At 7:31 PM there were two teams that needed to cut one player each and one team that had yet to cut anyone. Why were they allowed to choose their keepers after the deadline but my decision was made for me. 2 - Why would he pick Brown to drop out of my remaining roster? Like someone said, why not pick Alexander? We do not pay anyone to commish anything, but they volunteered to do this. I am co-commish in one league and if there is an important situation with deadlines involved I always call the people involved because I know there are delays with email responses. It is just as easy to call someone as it is to email, plus you usually get an immediate respone. I know this is only Chris Brown vs. Jerry Porter and I don't want to make a hugh deal of this. My concern is the way the decision was made and the fact that some teams were given extensions but I was not. I don't like the precedent this sets for future decisions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramhock Posted September 3, 2006 Share Posted September 3, 2006 You still need to take Brown off your sig. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i_am_the_swammi Posted September 4, 2006 Share Posted September 4, 2006 But if he had time to send me an email, couldn't he give me a call before he did it. I mean what if I didn't drop anyone because I couldn't get to my PC in time? Uh, haven't you had about 7 months to make this decision? Another guy trying to be cute with the deadline. If your decision was down to Porter and Brown, how in the heck did it take you 7 months to decide? Your own fault here, chum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TDFFFreak Posted September 4, 2006 Share Posted September 4, 2006 (edited) You put yourself in this boat by not meeting the specified deadline. How do the rules say the commissioner should address a situation where keepers are not declared by the deadline? Bottom line ... you should have declared your keepers prior to the deadline and this predictament is your fault. While ultimately that may be the case, I think the commish has a responsibility to keep the guy he feels is the better player. In this case IMO, it was Brown and not Porter. It's a judgement call so the gray area is large. I can see both sides of the arguement. Heck. Drop both if need be... Edited September 4, 2006 by TDFFFreak Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
House of Pain Posted September 4, 2006 Share Posted September 4, 2006 My eyes are blurry.... Is that Bunz and Czar in his avatar ? If so, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raider.Nation Posted September 4, 2006 Share Posted September 4, 2006 But if he had time to send me an email, couldn't he give me a call before he did it. I mean what if I didn't drop anyone because I couldn't get to my PC in time? Would he just choose all my keepers for me without calling? I think that decision was bush-league. Hopefully the other commish allows me to keep Brown instead. It's not like I was purposely holding off putting in my keepers for some reason. I just forgot to drop the one guy. How could you possibly not have enough time to get to a PC by the deadline. Every deadline in any FF league is declared well before the actual date. You screwed up, time to eat your lumps on this one. However, you should actually just lose the ability to keep that 8th guy. He shouldn't be the one picking it for you. So IMHO you should feel lucky to have anyone in that 8th spot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riffraff Posted September 4, 2006 Share Posted September 4, 2006 You had 6 months to make the cut. You brought it upon yourself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crispirons Posted September 4, 2006 Share Posted September 4, 2006 is he being that big of a p rick about it? he should just change it, looking at a simple adp tool. anyway, it is your fault for missing the deadline, hard to argue with that. the fact that the other people made there picks late is whats b.s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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