theeohiostate Posted September 6, 2006 Share Posted September 6, 2006 Every year a few people step up and tell us someone in their league is "dumping" games. This year i am in several leagues where Mike Bells was introduced into our drafts on MFL well after the draft started and the commishes had made the call to not allow him to be picked up , but put onto week 1 waivers. Well, i was reviewing a few line ups and it sure appears like their may be an effort for a team or two to lose week one to gain the first pick and obtain him. What should be done in this circumstance or can anything be done without a written rule for submittting an obviously horrible lineup like, Starting V.Young over Bledsoe and so on. Should i ask the commish to mandate that all owners start a competitive line up and if so, how will "competitve" be determined? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LooGie Posted September 6, 2006 Share Posted September 6, 2006 wow..i find it hard to believe that someone believes in a Rb in the epitome of the RBBC so much that they would tank their first game...just because you think it's questionable, doesn't make it so. I watch Brady and Hasselbeck go in the first in one of my drafts, and I watched Rackers go in the 3rd. I've seen DD get picked up by the 4th in 3 leagues. You might have FF knowledge and where-with-all, but they might not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lkirc Posted September 6, 2006 Share Posted September 6, 2006 If someone thinks dumping a game is worth picking up a waiver wire guy, then let them do so. I don't really think it is a smart move, but you can't prevent people from being stupid. If commishes would remember this simple rule, most problems would be eliminated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raider.Nation Posted September 6, 2006 Share Posted September 6, 2006 you could make it a BEST PLAYERS week. Where you take the score using only the best players available to each team on their rosters. MFL has that function for commishes. That would avoid this all together. No matter what were to happen in week 1, you'd score your highest possible score without even submitting a lineup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ursa Majoris Posted September 6, 2006 Share Posted September 6, 2006 wow..i find it hard to believe that someone believes in a Rb in the epitome of the RBBC so much that they would tank their first game...just because you think it's questionable, doesn't make it so. I watch Brady and Hasselbeck go in the first in one of my drafts, and I watched Rackers go in the 3rd. I've seen DD get picked up by the 4th in 3 leagues. You might have FF knowledge and where-with-all, but they might not. Good info here. If someone thinks dumping a game is worth picking up a waiver wire guy, then let them do so. I don't really think it is a smart move, but you can't prevent people from being stupid. If commishes would remember this simple rule, most problems would be eliminated. More good info here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cliaz Posted September 6, 2006 Share Posted September 6, 2006 personally I'd let them take the dump. No RB is worth that. Just MHO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrTed46 Posted September 6, 2006 Share Posted September 6, 2006 Let them take a L in a 13 week season for most leagues Idiots Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theeohiostate Posted September 6, 2006 Author Share Posted September 6, 2006 Thanks fellas, i was going to speak up and post something on the league message board, but i'd rather have a crappy ass team end up with Bell, then i team that is very good and i may end up playing in the playoffs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crispirons Posted September 6, 2006 Share Posted September 6, 2006 have to agree with the sentiment here.....unproven commodity not worth the loss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KUBJPO01 Posted September 6, 2006 Share Posted September 6, 2006 have a silent auction for his pickup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theeohiostate Posted September 6, 2006 Author Share Posted September 6, 2006 Young, Vince Bell, Tatum Dayne, Ron Moats, Ryan Moss, Santana Wilson, Cedrick Watson, Ben Reed, Jeff K Patriots, DST DST NE This line up does STINK of "I'm trying to dump this week though" Burress Foster Plummer on the bench Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darin3 Posted September 6, 2006 Share Posted September 6, 2006 Young, Vince Bell, Tatum Dayne, Ron Moats, Ryan Moss, Santana Wilson, Cedrick Watson, Ben Reed, Jeff K Patriots, DST DST NE This line up does STINK of "I'm trying to dump this week though" Burress Foster Plummer on the bench Yup, it's obvious he's sandbagging to get the waiver priority. But, I must say, it was a mistake of your commish and league to not allow Bell to be drafted. That's part of fantasy football. What would you have done if, say, Dominic Rhodes sustained a season-ending injury at some point midway through your draft when Addai was still available? Make Addai not draftable? Bad choice by your commish and now it's coming back to bite you in the ass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theeohiostate Posted September 6, 2006 Author Share Posted September 6, 2006 Yup, it's obvious he's sandbagging to get the waiver priority. But, I must say, it was a mistake of your commish and league to not allow Bell to be drafted. That's part of fantasy football. What would you have done if, say, Dominic Rhodes sustained a season-ending injury at some point midway through your draft when Addai was still available? Make Addai not draftable? Bad choice by your commish and now it's coming back to bite you in the ass. This happened in a few BOTH leagues and the huddler commishes decided to not allow them to be drafted. Not to name names Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoperat Posted September 6, 2006 Share Posted September 6, 2006 I say if someone wants Bell taht bad...good luck with that. Next week, they'll be doing the same thing for Cedric Cobbs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theeohiostate Posted September 6, 2006 Author Share Posted September 6, 2006 I say if someone wants Bell taht bad...good luck with that. Next week, they'll be doing the same thing for Cedric Cobbs True Dat! The more i think about the less pissed i get and the more sorry i feel for their pathetic team Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rattsass Posted September 6, 2006 Share Posted September 6, 2006 I have to side with the "dumpers" here. I think it is a strategy that could backfire in a big way. If they are willing to risk taking a dive on the hope of landing a waiver wire player, I think you just have to let them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keggerz Posted September 6, 2006 Share Posted September 6, 2006 Young, Vince Bell, Tatum Dayne, Ron Moats, Ryan Moss, Santana Wilson, Cedrick Watson, Ben Reed, Jeff K Patriots, DST DST NE This line up does STINK of "I'm trying to dump this week though" Burress Foster Plummer on the bench i dont think a commish can make them field any particular lineup unless there is a rule in place about starting injured players or backups or something...but with that said I would probably not invite that person back in the leaue next yr either... who is starting in Tenn has it been announced? Is VY the #3 QB? Cedrick wilson with batch vs Burress... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pope Flick Posted September 6, 2006 Share Posted September 6, 2006 Yup, it's obvious he's sandbagging to get the waiver priority. But, I must say, it was a mistake of your commish and league to not allow Bell to be drafted. That's part of fantasy football. What would you have done if, say, Dominic Rhodes sustained a season-ending injury at some point midway through your draft when Addai was still available? Make Addai not draftable? Bad choice by your commish and now it's coming back to bite you in the ass. That's different/ What I believe he's referring to is that Mike Bell wasn't in the MFL database prior to Shanny's announcement. Because he wasn't an option for the first few rounds, to drop him into the pool during the draft would basically give him to the team that picks just after he was added. Addai began IN the database, so he was always there to select. I open waivers based on reverse Rd 1 draft order after the draft and before week 1. It even becomes first come first served before kickoff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theeohiostate Posted September 6, 2006 Author Share Posted September 6, 2006 That's different/ What I believe he's referring to is that Mike Bell wasn't in the MFL database prior to Shanny's announcement. Because he wasn't an option for the first few rounds, to drop him into the pool during the draft would basically give him to the team that picks just after he was added. Addai began IN the database, so he was always there to select. I open waivers based on reverse Rd 1 draft order after the draft and before week 1. It even becomes first come first served before kickoff. correct Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keggerz Posted September 6, 2006 Share Posted September 6, 2006 That's different/ What I believe he's referring to is that Mike Bell wasn't in the MFL database prior to Shanny's announcement. Because he wasn't an option for the first few rounds, to drop him into the pool during the draft would basically give him to the team that picks just after he was added. Addai began IN the database, so he was always there to select. I open waivers based on reverse Rd 1 draft order after the draft and before week 1. It even becomes first come first served before kickoff. he was on an NFL team it shouldnt matter that he wasnt listed in the MFL database.... every league I have ever been in if you wanted to draft a player not in MFL you used a placeholder FA like Jim Harbaugh and then in the comments listed the actual player anyone that wanted to draft mike bell could have done so in round 1 if they wanted to imo mfl is just a VENUE that you draft on...i would bet that not one single league has any rules stating that only players listed in MFLs database are draftable Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hollywood_69 Posted September 6, 2006 Share Posted September 6, 2006 i'm in one of theohiostate's league and thank god so far that hasnt happeneed, but i did think that before week 1 the waiver went 12-1, in most leagues, its to late now though. if i hadn't drafted jeff wilkins to back up vinny i was almost upshyt's creek, not having a week 1 kicker. but vinny is strong and i dont have to worry. also, sandbagging is a huge no, no! not only for the team that dumps, but the team that faces him shouldn't get a easy w, not that way at least. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keggerz Posted September 7, 2006 Share Posted September 7, 2006 i would love to see the guys rationale for benching those 3 players and playing the lineup he submitted Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theeohiostate Posted September 7, 2006 Author Share Posted September 7, 2006 , but i did think that before week 1 the waiver went 12-1, in most leagues, Many do have waivers from 12-1 after the draft. Many have a FCFS process and many more have a locked waivers until after week 1's game. In my 12 leagues, only 3 of them have any type of pick ups and drops open currently, the other 9 are locked until the season opens. This sucks if you have an injury. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pope Flick Posted September 7, 2006 Share Posted September 7, 2006 he was on an NFL team it shouldnt matter that he wasnt listed in the MFL database.... every league I have ever been in if you wanted to draft a player not in MFL you used a placeholder FA like Jim Harbaugh and then in the comments listed the actual player anyone that wanted to draft mike bell could have done so in round 1 if they wanted to imo mfl is just a VENUE that you draft on...i would bet that not one single league has any rules stating that only players listed in MFLs database are draftable I agree 100%. But others didn't handle it that way and are stuck with the mess. No league should ever restrict itself to what a website does, as there are workarounds for everything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keggerz Posted September 7, 2006 Share Posted September 7, 2006 I agree 100%. But others didn't handle it that way and are stuck with the mess. No league should ever restrict itself to what a website does, as there are workarounds for everything. you know what they say " you reap what you sow" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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