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Anyone else really starting to like Roy Williams?


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The Lions' Roy Williams apparently doesn't play to win the game. He'd rather strike a pose.

 

Williams' celebration after his first catch of Sunday's game against the Bears drew ire from the Chicago crowd and had Detroit Free Press columnist Mitch Albom scratching his head.

 

When Albom asked Williams why he celebrated a reception with his team already trailing by two scores, Williams responded, "I celebrate first downs all the time. I'm not gonna stop that. I'm an exciting player. If I do something exciting, I'm gonna show my actions."

 

Albom responded, "But you were losing, 10-0."

 

"What does that mean? ... That means nothing to me. The score means nothing," Williams told Albom.

 

Williams had angered the Bears by guaranteeing a Lions victory during the week. Detroit, however, was no match for Chicago in a lopsided 34-7 defeat.

 

Afterward, Williams said he didn't regret making the guarantee.

 

"No, because everyone believes what I said," he told Albom.

 

Williams caught six passes for 71 yards in the loss -- and he issued another guarantee afterward.

 

"You can all run with this: We will win the [next] game," he told reporters. "I don't care who it's against. We will win the game as long as we do what we're supposed to do. That's my comment for the whole week."

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"What does that mean? ... That means nothing to me. The score means nothing," Williams told Albom.

 

 

 

 

 

Coming from the guy who said "we were so close to scoring 40 it was stupid" when all they got was 2 FGs it doesn't surprise me at all.

 

I do like him, he pprovided a lot of ancillary entertainment to an excellent football game this weekend.

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I can't believe Albom was trying to make a big deal about the fact that Roy celebrated a first down when his team was down 10-0 early in the game. It's not like the Lions were down big late in the game & Roy was celebrating a garbage time play. He had just made a play to keep a drive alive while his team was showing some signs of life - for all we know he was trying to get the offence pumped up against the tough Bears D, not engaging in self-congratulatory behavior. What did Albom expect Roy & the Lions O to do when down 10-0 - quit on themselves & accept the "inevitable" Bears victory? So in a sense, Roy was right when he replied that "the score means nothing" - at that point in the game it did mean nothing except that the Lions O needed to execute, make some plays, keep their drives alive, & try to put some points on the board. Anyone who thinks that 10 points is a safe lead in the NFL has apparently never watched any of the myriad comebacks of recent memory - witness the Giants' win in OT against the Eagles this week.

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I can't believe Albom was trying to make a big deal about the fact that Roy celebrated a first down when his team was down 10-0 early in the game. It's not like the Lions were down big late in the game & Roy was celebrating a garbage time play. He had just made a play to keep a drive alive while his team was showing some signs of life - for all we know he was trying to get the offence pumped up against the tough Bears D, not engaging in self-congratulatory behavior. What did Albom expect Roy & the Lions O to do when down 10-0 - quit on themselves & accept the "inevitable" Bears victory? So in a sense, Roy was right when he replied that "the score means nothing" - at that point in the game it did mean nothing except that the Lions O needed to execute, make some plays, keep their drives alive, & try to put some points on the board. Anyone who thinks that 10 points is a safe lead in the NFL has apparently never watched any of the myriad comebacks of recent memory - witness the Giants' win in OT against the Eagles this week.

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well, i was amused as anyone at his "guarantee" last week. and the fact that he's apparently "guaranteeing" another one this week :D

 

but i think the "score doesn't matter" chit is being taken a little unfairly out of context by dooushe albom. a first down when you're down 10-0 in the first quarter is at least as big a play as a first down when you're up 10-0. that's what roy is saying. i'd like to see guys in general, roy included, celebrate a little less for making a friggin first down. but to single him out for celebrating THAT first down is pretty weak. i think it has more to do with him being a loudmouth "guaranteeing" the win than anything else.

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I can't believe Albom was trying to make a big deal about the fact that Roy celebrated a first down when his team was down 10-0 early in the game. It's not like the Lions were down big late in the game & Roy was celebrating a garbage time play. He had just made a play to keep a drive alive while his team was showing some signs of life - for all we know he was trying to get the offence pumped up against the tough Bears D, not engaging in self-congratulatory behavior. What did Albom expect Roy & the Lions O to do when down 10-0 - quit on themselves & accept the "inevitable" Bears victory? So in a sense, Roy was right when he replied that "the score means nothing" - at that point in the game it did mean nothing except that the Lions O needed to execute, make some plays, keep their drives alive, & try to put some points on the board. Anyone who thinks that 10 points is a safe lead in the NFL has apparently never watched any of the myriad comebacks of recent memory - witness the Giants' win in OT against the Eagles this week.

 

 

I agree with you. If they were losing 35-0, then maybe it could've been out of place, but while i didn't see the play he could just be trying to fire up his team. Nothing wrong with that.

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You guys must not have seen Williams. Albom had every right to question Williams, because Williams' celebration was not ANY attempt to fire his team up, but it was a psychotic, violent physical reaction where I honestly thought the man was having a coronary. It was TOO MUCH celebration if he had just scored a TD to take the lead with less than a minute to go let alone after a harmless first down when it was obvious you were playing a SUPERIOR football team.

 

Also, that was not the only time Williams went bonkers over a harmless play. He acting like a clod on at least two other occasions in the game.

 

Roy Williams IS A TOOL.

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You guys must not have seen Williams. Albom had every right to question Williams, because Williams' celebration was not ANY attempt to fire his team up, but it was a psychotic, violent physical reaction where I honestly thought the man was having a coronary. It was TOO MUCH celebration if he had just scored a TD to take the lead with less than a minute to go let alone after a harmless first down when it was obvious you were playing a SUPERIOR football team.

 

 

you're right i didn't see the play. but albom is the one who made it about the score at the time, and as far as that goes, williams is right...celebrating a first down when you're down 10-0 in the first quarter is really no Megan Foxier than celebrating a first down when you're UP 10-0. albom trying to turn that into "roy williams doesn't care about winning or losing" is incredibly weak. seems like roy does a good enough job making himSELF look like a tool that albom wouldn't need to make weak chit up and twist it around in order to accomplish the same thing.

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Williams didn't just do it when they were down 10-0... He did it the entire game, even in the second half.....

 

What I don't get is that he is well-known to be very intelligent as far as football players go, knowing the assignments of every player at every position. He also was a very good student in High School and at Texas- all A's and B's... Go figure...

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As a Giants fan we need to stop bashing players for celebrating first downs when their team is get killed. Anyone ever seen Shockey or Jacobs. They celebrate a 3 yard gain on 2 and 8 like they just won the SB. And it isn't just them. Look around MANY players celebrate things like this regardless of the score in ridiculous fashion. It is ridiculous but to single out Williams is wrong. Lets talk about ALL the guys who do it. Oh wait we don't have enough time for that.

 

And FYI comparing Williams to Mitchell is insane. Mitchell couldn't carry Williams' jock.

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Albom has felt he is the sole Moral Voice of All Sports ever since he had that "Tuesdays with Dorey" bestseller. WRs celebrate first downs all over the league. If Albom were a real sports journalist, instead of prognosticating on who you'll meet in the afterlife, he'd be asking hard questions of Martz instead of making a scapegoat of Williams.

 

I know Kitna isn't very fond of the showboating, though. There was a reason Peter Warrick has his career year when CJ was on the team and Kitna was throwing the balls. Well, besides the fact that Warrick ran the underneath routes.

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While celebrating a first down seems corny at best, I think Williams is getting a bad rap. Saying the score doesn't matter doesn't mean he doesn't care if they win or lose, it means he gets pumped up playing the game.

 

And as far as the guarantees go, I think it's just his way of telling his team that he believes in them. Nothing wrong with that.

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