Fatman Posted September 18, 2006 Share Posted September 18, 2006 http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2592484 The Lions' Roy Williams apparently doesn't play to win the game. He'd rather strike a pose. Williams' celebration after his first catch of Sunday's game against the Bears drew ire from the Chicago crowd and had Detroit Free Press columnist Mitch Albom scratching his head. When Albom asked Williams why he celebrated a reception with his team already trailing by two scores, Williams responded, "I celebrate first downs all the time. I'm not gonna stop that. I'm an exciting player. If I do something exciting, I'm gonna show my actions." Albom responded, "But you were losing, 10-0." "What does that mean? ... That means nothing to me. The score means nothing," Williams told Albom. Williams had angered the Bears by guaranteeing a Lions victory during the week. Detroit, however, was no match for Chicago in a lopsided 34-7 defeat. Afterward, Williams said he didn't regret making the guarantee. "No, because everyone believes what I said," he told Albom. Williams caught six passes for 71 yards in the loss -- and he issued another guarantee afterward. "You can all run with this: We will win the [next] game," he told reporters. "I don't care who it's against. We will win the game as long as we do what we're supposed to do. That's my comment for the whole week." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jumpin Johnies Posted September 18, 2006 Share Posted September 18, 2006 The guy reminds me of Freddy Mitchell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vet Posted September 18, 2006 Share Posted September 18, 2006 I didn't believe the first guarantee, but I think this time he really means it. I'm betting the farm on the Lions next week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatman Posted September 18, 2006 Author Share Posted September 18, 2006 I didn't believe the first guarantee, but I think this time he really means it. I'm betting the farm on the Lions next week. Luckily for Roy he's playing my Packers, so his guarantee might actually pan out... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Egret Posted September 18, 2006 Share Posted September 18, 2006 What a doof. The score doesn't matter?!? Great attitude. Maybe we needed Herm Edwards to come up to Detroit. "We play to win the games." Maybe I can send a video of that to Roy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pope Flick Posted September 18, 2006 Share Posted September 18, 2006 "What does that mean? ... That means nothing to me. The score means nothing," Williams told Albom. Coming from the guy who said "we were so close to scoring 40 it was stupid" when all they got was 2 FGs it doesn't surprise me at all. I do like him, he pprovided a lot of ancillary entertainment to an excellent football game this weekend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexgaddis Posted September 18, 2006 Share Posted September 18, 2006 wow...what a total splashy cleanser... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shot_Kings Posted September 18, 2006 Share Posted September 18, 2006 I can't believe Albom was trying to make a big deal about the fact that Roy celebrated a first down when his team was down 10-0 early in the game. It's not like the Lions were down big late in the game & Roy was celebrating a garbage time play. He had just made a play to keep a drive alive while his team was showing some signs of life - for all we know he was trying to get the offence pumped up against the tough Bears D, not engaging in self-congratulatory behavior. What did Albom expect Roy & the Lions O to do when down 10-0 - quit on themselves & accept the "inevitable" Bears victory? So in a sense, Roy was right when he replied that "the score means nothing" - at that point in the game it did mean nothing except that the Lions O needed to execute, make some plays, keep their drives alive, & try to put some points on the board. Anyone who thinks that 10 points is a safe lead in the NFL has apparently never watched any of the myriad comebacks of recent memory - witness the Giants' win in OT against the Eagles this week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexgaddis Posted September 18, 2006 Share Posted September 18, 2006 I can't believe Albom was trying to make a big deal about the fact that Roy celebrated a first down when his team was down 10-0 early in the game. It's not like the Lions were down big late in the game & Roy was celebrating a garbage time play. He had just made a play to keep a drive alive while his team was showing some signs of life - for all we know he was trying to get the offence pumped up against the tough Bears D, not engaging in self-congratulatory behavior. What did Albom expect Roy & the Lions O to do when down 10-0 - quit on themselves & accept the "inevitable" Bears victory? So in a sense, Roy was right when he replied that "the score means nothing" - at that point in the game it did mean nothing except that the Lions O needed to execute, make some plays, keep their drives alive, & try to put some points on the board. Anyone who thinks that 10 points is a safe lead in the NFL has apparently never watched any of the myriad comebacks of recent memory - witness the Giants' win in OT against the Eagles this week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwolf68 Posted September 18, 2006 Share Posted September 18, 2006 (edited) The guy reminds me of Freddy Mitchell. Except Williams can play. He is a total clown, but he can play football. Edited September 18, 2006 by kwolf68 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azazello1313 Posted September 18, 2006 Share Posted September 18, 2006 well, i was amused as anyone at his "guarantee" last week. and the fact that he's apparently "guaranteeing" another one this week but i think the "score doesn't matter" chit is being taken a little unfairly out of context by dooushe albom. a first down when you're down 10-0 in the first quarter is at least as big a play as a first down when you're up 10-0. that's what roy is saying. i'd like to see guys in general, roy included, celebrate a little less for making a friggin first down. but to single him out for celebrating THAT first down is pretty weak. i think it has more to do with him being a loudmouth "guaranteeing" the win than anything else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackass Posted September 18, 2006 Share Posted September 18, 2006 I can't believe Albom was trying to make a big deal about the fact that Roy celebrated a first down when his team was down 10-0 early in the game. It's not like the Lions were down big late in the game & Roy was celebrating a garbage time play. He had just made a play to keep a drive alive while his team was showing some signs of life - for all we know he was trying to get the offence pumped up against the tough Bears D, not engaging in self-congratulatory behavior. What did Albom expect Roy & the Lions O to do when down 10-0 - quit on themselves & accept the "inevitable" Bears victory? So in a sense, Roy was right when he replied that "the score means nothing" - at that point in the game it did mean nothing except that the Lions O needed to execute, make some plays, keep their drives alive, & try to put some points on the board. Anyone who thinks that 10 points is a safe lead in the NFL has apparently never watched any of the myriad comebacks of recent memory - witness the Giants' win in OT against the Eagles this week. I agree with you. If they were losing 35-0, then maybe it could've been out of place, but while i didn't see the play he could just be trying to fire up his team. Nothing wrong with that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwolf68 Posted September 18, 2006 Share Posted September 18, 2006 (edited) You guys must not have seen Williams. Albom had every right to question Williams, because Williams' celebration was not ANY attempt to fire his team up, but it was a psychotic, violent physical reaction where I honestly thought the man was having a coronary. It was TOO MUCH celebration if he had just scored a TD to take the lead with less than a minute to go let alone after a harmless first down when it was obvious you were playing a SUPERIOR football team. Also, that was not the only time Williams went bonkers over a harmless play. He acting like a clod on at least two other occasions in the game. Roy Williams IS A TOOL. Edited September 18, 2006 by kwolf68 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Posted September 18, 2006 Share Posted September 18, 2006 Oh that Roy Williams. Keep talking Roy. The packers need BB material. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azazello1313 Posted September 18, 2006 Share Posted September 18, 2006 You guys must not have seen Williams. Albom had every right to question Williams, because Williams' celebration was not ANY attempt to fire his team up, but it was a psychotic, violent physical reaction where I honestly thought the man was having a coronary. It was TOO MUCH celebration if he had just scored a TD to take the lead with less than a minute to go let alone after a harmless first down when it was obvious you were playing a SUPERIOR football team. you're right i didn't see the play. but albom is the one who made it about the score at the time, and as far as that goes, williams is right...celebrating a first down when you're down 10-0 in the first quarter is really no Megan Foxier than celebrating a first down when you're UP 10-0. albom trying to turn that into "roy williams doesn't care about winning or losing" is incredibly weak. seems like roy does a good enough job making himSELF look like a tool that albom wouldn't need to make weak chit up and twist it around in order to accomplish the same thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolv Posted September 18, 2006 Share Posted September 18, 2006 Wk 17: Roy Williams meets Roy Williams. Here's a guarantee - one is gonna get leveled by the other.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missilemike Posted September 18, 2006 Share Posted September 18, 2006 Williams didn't just do it when they were down 10-0... He did it the entire game, even in the second half..... What I don't get is that he is well-known to be very intelligent as far as football players go, knowing the assignments of every player at every position. He also was a very good student in High School and at Texas- all A's and B's... Go figure... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wolf Posted September 18, 2006 Share Posted September 18, 2006 What a doof. The score doesn't matter?!? Great attitude. Maybe we needed Herm Edwards to come up to Detroit. "We play to win the games." Maybe I can send a video of that to Roy. Don't bother...Herm Edwards never learned from saying that either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Furd Posted September 18, 2006 Share Posted September 18, 2006 He did it a couple times that I saw. Williams is becoming a complete tool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piratesownninjas Posted September 19, 2006 Share Posted September 19, 2006 The guy reminds me of Freddy Mitchell. Except Roy Williams is a good player... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giantsfan Posted September 19, 2006 Share Posted September 19, 2006 As a Giants fan we need to stop bashing players for celebrating first downs when their team is get killed. Anyone ever seen Shockey or Jacobs. They celebrate a 3 yard gain on 2 and 8 like they just won the SB. And it isn't just them. Look around MANY players celebrate things like this regardless of the score in ridiculous fashion. It is ridiculous but to single out Williams is wrong. Lets talk about ALL the guys who do it. Oh wait we don't have enough time for that. And FYI comparing Williams to Mitchell is insane. Mitchell couldn't carry Williams' jock. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Misfit Posted September 19, 2006 Share Posted September 19, 2006 Albom has felt he is the sole Moral Voice of All Sports ever since he had that "Tuesdays with Dorey" bestseller. WRs celebrate first downs all over the league. If Albom were a real sports journalist, instead of prognosticating on who you'll meet in the afterlife, he'd be asking hard questions of Martz instead of making a scapegoat of Williams. I know Kitna isn't very fond of the showboating, though. There was a reason Peter Warrick has his career year when CJ was on the team and Kitna was throwing the balls. Well, besides the fact that Warrick ran the underneath routes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanCT Posted September 19, 2006 Share Posted September 19, 2006 While celebrating a first down seems corny at best, I think Williams is getting a bad rap. Saying the score doesn't matter doesn't mean he doesn't care if they win or lose, it means he gets pumped up playing the game. And as far as the guarantees go, I think it's just his way of telling his team that he believes in them. Nothing wrong with that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruffian Posted September 19, 2006 Share Posted September 19, 2006 I'm all for inspiring one's teammates but Roy really needs to just play and not talk for...I don't know...the rest of his career. Put a sock in it, Nostrildamus. Go play ball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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