Officiating Crew in OU/Oregon game suspended

[Sgt. Ryan]

Whoopdi sh*t, they should be shot.

[Coffeeman]

Whoopdi sh*t, they should be shot.

 

link?!?

[Sgt. Ryan]

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=2593564

 

Pac-10 suspends officials for errors that cost Oklahoma

 

 

NORMAN, Okla. -- The Pacific-10 Conference suspended for one game the officiating crew and the instant replay officials that worked Saturday's Oklahoma-Oregon football game after finding mistakes were made in calls near the end of the contest.

 

Pac-10 Commissioner Tom Hansen said Monday that a review by conference officials of video of the game revealed that both the instant replay officials and the game officials assigned by the conference made errors in the final minute and 12 seconds of the game.

 

 

 

 

 

Oklahoma lost the game 34-33 after Oregon scored two touchdowns near the end of the game.

 

An onside kick by Oregon after its first late touchdown was touched by a Ducks player before it traveled the required 10 yards, and the Pac-10 ruled that the ball should have been awarded to Oklahoma. The league also said that video revealed that an Oklahoma player actually recovered the ball.

 

Officials on the field gave the ball to Oregon, and replay officials did not overturn that decision.

 

During a subsequent play, pass interference was called on Oklahoma, setting up the winning score. The Sooners argued that the ball had been tipped at the line of scrimmage, thereby nullifying the pass interference call.

 

Replay officials did not see indisputable evidence to overturn the penalty.

 

"The fact that the errors on the onside kick altered the outcome of the game is most unfortunate and unsettling," Hansen said in a statement. "We had a solid veteran crew assigned, and the instant replay official had a fine career as a referee in the Pac-10. We believe in the ability and integrity of each individual involved. It should be noted that not all of the seven officials were directly involved in the play in question, but the entire crew bears responsibility for every play. Game officials and replay officials have positions of great responsibility and must be accountable for their actions.

 

"Errors clearly were made and not corrected, and for that we apologize to the University of Oklahoma, coach Bob Stoops and his players. They played an outstanding college football game, as did Oregon, and it is regrettable that the outcome of the contest was affected by the officiating."

 

University of Oklahoma president David Boren had sent a letter to the Big 12 on Monday asking that the league pursue having the result of the game voided and suspending the officials involved for the rest of the season.

 

"I appreciate the apology issued by the Pac-10 Commissioner and his action in penalizing the game officials," Boren said in a statement after the ruling. "I hope this will lead to further national review of the responsibilities of replay officials and the way in which they interact with game officials on the field. I also hope this situation will lead the Pac-10 to change their policy of requiring that only officials of the Pac-10 officiate the home games of Pac-10 universities when they are hosting a non-conference opponent."

 

Hansen said that the officials will be closely monitored in the future, but he acknowledged that they don't have an easy job.

 

"Officiating on the field is much more difficult than it appears from the stands, and certainly when watching repeated replays," Hansen said. "Plays occur at a high rate of speed. Decisions on the field must be made instantaneously. The training and experience of officials at this level enable them to work at a high degree of accuracy. Unfortunately, at the critical moment of this game errors were made."

 

Hansen said that officials are limited to the available television shots of the action, but "on the kickoff play ample views were available."

Edited September 18, 2006 by Sgt. Ryan

[Sgt. Ryan]

So the pac-10 commisioner rules not only did Oregon touch the ball before it went 10 yards, but also OU recovered the ball. How do officials and the booth miss both of those things in the same play. The commisioner did not stop there, he also said the tipped ball replay was blown as well, leading to even more suspicion.

 

Alot of good it does us now, but Im glad even the conference recognizes the injustice, and Im sure they are feeling the heat from the NCAA today.. Word out of Norman is the Big 12 is trying to not only get the game nullified, but may stop all affiliation with the conference this year and in the future. How funny would it be if Big 12 schools wouldnt make the trip to the West coast for any more reg season games this season and other conferences follow the same path, costing the conference millions of dollars in ticket sales, tv money for the game, etc... I do think this is extreme, but to even hear it discussed within the conference is wow, out there.

Edited September 18, 2006 by Sgt. Ryan

[untateve]

I suggest monitoring the replay official's bank account to see if he makes any unexpected large deposits over the next few months. I disagree with a one game suspension. He should be fired.

[theprofessor]

So the pac-10 commisioner rules not only did Oregon touch the ball before it went 10 yards, but also OU recovered the ball. How do officials and the booth miss both of those things in the same play. The commisioner did not stop there, he also said the tipped ball replay was blown as well, leading to even more suspicion.

 

Alot of good it does us now, but Im glad even the conference recognizes the injustice, and Im sure they are feeling the heat from the NCAA today.. Word out of Norman is the Big 12 is trying to not only get the game nullified, but may stop all affiliation with the conference this year and in the future. How funny would it be if Big 12 schools wouldnt make the trip to the West coast for any more reg season games this season and other conferences follow the same path, costing the conference millions of dollars in ticket sales, tv money for the game, etc... I do think this is extreme, but to even hear it discussed within the conference is wow, out there.

 

 

Again, the Big-12 doesn't want to come out here because EVERY time they do .... they get

 

PAC-10 = Conference Of Champions

[wildcat2334]

flat out embarassing...... a few things

 

- How could they have an all PAC 10 crew? this should have never been possible!! I thought the NCAA fixed this-

 

- How could these morons in 2006, think that this would fly??. With all the replay, and ESPN, etc. how the eff did these guys think they could get away with it.

 

- I sincerely hope it was not cheating.... It brings me back to the Poly Int in the AFC championship that WAS REVERSED when it was clearly an INT. To this day still the most shocking call I have ever seen- how were those clowns able to keep their jobs on such an even bigger stage??? This sh1tty officiating has got to stop on all levels.

 

- All in all this stinks- and I cannot believe this sh1t even goes on.

[detlef]

So the pac-10 commisioner rules not only did Oregon touch the ball before it went 10 yards, but also OU recovered the ball. How do officials and the booth miss both of those things in the same play. The commisioner did not stop there, he also said the tipped ball replay was blown as well, leading to even more suspicion.

 

Alot of good it does us now, but Im glad even the conference recognizes the injustice, and Im sure they are feeling the heat from the NCAA today.. Word out of Norman is the Big 12 is trying to not only get the game nullified, but may stop all affiliation with the conference this year and in the future. How funny would it be if Big 12 schools wouldnt make the trip to the West coast for any more reg season games this season and other conferences follow the same path, costing the conference millions of dollars in ticket sales, tv money for the game, etc... I do think this is extreme, but to even hear it discussed within the conference is wow, out there.

 

FWIW, I don't think anyone said that the tipped ball call was also blown. The article simply brought up the fact that the call was also questioned and upheld.

 

This is another example of how lame instant replay is. Not only are calls still blown (or even mysteriously overturned as was pointed out with the Steeler INT) but they turn make it so much more complicated than it needs to be. Some calls can be disputed, others can't. Even at the US Open they turn it into a strategy thing when the calls can be corrected in literally 2-3 seconds. In that case, somebody upstairs can review it before the next point is played and buzz the ump if they got it wrong. It would only slow down the game when there was actually a blown call, otherwise, play continues at the exact pace.

 

Then there's the BS with the red flags. You mean in 2006, we can't find a better way to challenge a call then have use a freaking flag? Teenagers are text messaging each other day and night and the NFL is using the communications equivalent of smoke signals. Absolutely moronic.

 

As I see it, there's two options. Go back to the old way and forget the replay all together or freaking get it right. Losing because of a blown call will always suck and it's happened as long as sports have been played. Losing because of a blown call when they had the chance to fix it through replay and didn't is like pouring salt in the wound.

 

All that said, the OU AD is a bedwetter for insisting that the game be stricken from the records. Leave that sort of inane comment to the fans.

[gilthorp]

 

Again, the Big-12 doesn't want to come out here because EVERY time they do .... they get

 

PAC-10 = Conference Of Champions

 

 

What a little twit you are.

[Perchoutofwater]

 

Again, the Big-12 doesn't want to come out here because EVERY time they do .... they get

 

PAC-10 = Conference Of Champions

 

 

I can't stand OU, and I can say with out a doubt you are an idiot.

[GWPFFL BrianW]

I thought I was a pretty big Big Ten homer, but this pac 10 guy takes the cake. The Pac 10 is USC and 9 also rans this year. Just like it was LAST year. And at the end of the year you will be "WAAAAAAAAAAAAAH the pac 10 deserved another BCS team." Then that team will go to the Holiday Bowl and get whooped on again like Cal and Oregon did. Then we can start the process over again next year.

[Sgt. Ryan]

I can't stand OU, and I can say with out a doubt you are an idiot.

 

 

NO question he is an idiot. But dont reply to his posts any longer, as for whatever reason they are not blocked when someone does. I like it better when this guy is on ignore.

 

 

And you like OU just a lil. I know Perch.

[whoopazz]

death threats

 

Sarge, this is going a bit far!

[Gonkis]

The ESPN poll today is whether the BCS should count or disregard the Oklahoma/Oregon game. 131k people have voted and the nation is in support of the game being counted.

 

Sorry Sooner Nation, better luck next time.

 

Seriously, though, While I think the outcome is bulloh poopy, I hate to think about the precedent it sets if they discount the game.

[GWPFFL BrianW]

Of course it should be counted, but the bigger issue is these refs suck. It's happened too many times in the last couple years. Alamo Bowl and Outback Bowl last year. OU-Oregon this year. It's ridiculous. Pollsters will eventually come around. Oregon loses once and they will drop way below Oklahoma. But the Polls is where Oklahoma can be vindicated. Still doesn't change that its 1 loss they shouldn't have had, but life is a b|tch.

[theprofessor]

What a little twit you are.

 

 

[theprofessor]

NO question he is an idiot. But dont reply to his posts any longer, as for whatever reason they are not blocked when someone does. I like it better when this guy is on ignore.

And you like OU just a lil. I know Perch.

 

 

What a little b!aatch. You lost. Be a man.

[Coffeeman]

Whatever prof and Sarge have going on, you two should just go behind the woodshed and 'relieve your tensions' somehow. But that may be inappropriate if there's jailbait involved. Prof - how old are you, 13? And Sarge, how old are you? You should know better...

 

Following each other around on every thread. Anyone can talk so tough online about stuff that means almost nothing. This is getting old...

[whoopazz]

Prof - how old are you, 13? And Sarge, how old are you?

14?

[wildcat2334]

I thought I was a pretty big Big Ten homer, but this pac 10 guy takes the cake. The Pac 10 is USC and 9 also rans this year. Just like it was LAST year. And at the end of the year you will be "WAAAAAAAAAAAAAH the pac 10 deserved another BCS team." Then that team will go to the Holiday Bowl and get whooped on again like Cal and Oregon did. Then we can start the process over again next year.

 

 

 

This is crazy talk. Taking the OU/Oregon debacle out of the equation, and the Prof who is a moron.....

 

I just checked Sagarin's ratings, PAC 10 is #1 rated conference. I am not a blind homer suggesting it is the best, or if these ratings are the end all. But they are a good indicator.- PAC 10 has good, solid teams this year. This USC and 9 also rans is so ridiculously wrong it is hilarious to me.

 

1 PAC-10 (A) = 79.26 79.41 ( 1) 10

2 BIG TEN (A) = 77.84 77.22 ( 2) 11

3 SOUTHEASTERN (A) = 77.45 77.05 ( 4) 12

4 BIG 12 (A) = 77.18 77.12 ( 3) 12

5 ATLANTIC COAS (A) = 75.31 75.28 ( 6) 12

 

The PAC 10 has 8, I said 8 teams in the top 50, which is used in the BCS criteria- so know what the eff you Big 10, Big 12 homers are talking about.

 

this is not the end all, but Sagarin's ratings are legit. I get sick of the midwest/East Coast BS about the APC 10 being soft-

[Coffeeman]

Brian has a point about the Holiday Bowl curse for Pac10 teams. Something happens to the team psyche when they find themselves aced out of the Rose Bowl, and have to take the trip to SD at Xmas as a consolation prize.

 

(At least now it can't happen without losing a Pac10 game - if someone goes undefeated in the Pac10, they have beaten all 9 teams and should get the Rose or even the NC game.)

 

I call it the 'We Didn't Get the Rose' Hangover. No matter the Big12 competition, the P10 team just doesn't seem to play with any heart.

 

No other explanation...

[Gonkis]

Sagarin's ratings are legit

 

 

Sagarin is a just guy who says what you want to hear.

[theprofessor]

Whatever prof and Sarge have going on, you two should just go behind the woodshed and 'relieve your tensions' somehow. But that may be inappropriate if there's jailbait involved. Prof - how old are you, 13? And Sarge, how old are you? You should know better...

 

Following each other around on every thread. Anyone can talk so tough online about stuff that means almost nothing. This is getting old...

 

 

You're right Coffeeman. I should know better than to stoop to Sarge's level. I've read his posts for the last year on how he blasts everyone who like's any team or conference other than his own. I have always been a huge University of Washington fan and supporter of most every team in the Pac-10. I talk about USC a lot because they are in the midst of an incredible run winning 36 out of their last 37 games while playing a tough schedule every year. I have watched Sarge continue to minimize their achievements when no team has had a run like they have had in a long, long time. After USC blew OU out in the NCG we listened to post after post about how poor Oklahoma played and his constant blaming of the officials. What ever happened to being a true fan and sharing some honest insight?

 

Then after the Super Bowl when there were some obvious bad calls against the Seahawks he continued to say that great teams play through bad calls and win anyway. But when his beloved Sooners have a couple calls go against them he calls for officials jobs and thinks that the game shouldn't count. It's just tiring to listen to him talking out of both sides of his mouth so much. I am guilty for getting caught up in his "garbage" and I shouldn't. Thanks for setting me straight.

[theeohiostate]

I didn't see the game. But i'm sure that if a public statement was made and officails were suspended, it was clearly very bad calls. I hate to see officials cost teams games whomever the school is. It is sad but a part of the game. I really don't get the point of suspending the refs, if this continues there will be no refs to officiate any game on Saturdays.

 

Not a week passes that bad calls are made, if the officials are suspended for each mistake, it'll be too much.

[Sgt. Ryan]

You're right Coffeeman. I should know better than to stoop to Sarge's level. I've read his posts for the last year on how he blasts everyone who like's any team or conference other than his own. I have always been a huge University of Washington fan and supporter of most every team in the Pac-10. I talk about USC a lot because they are in the midst of an incredible run winning 36 out of their last 37 games while playing a tough schedule every year. I have watched Sarge continue to minimize their achievements when no team has had a run like they have had in a long, long time. After USC blew OU out in the NCG we listened to post after post about how poor Oklahoma played and his constant blaming of the officials. What ever happened to being a true fan and sharing some honest insight?

 

Then after the Super Bowl when there were some obvious bad calls against the Seahawks he continued to say that great teams play through bad calls and win anyway. But when his beloved Sooners have a couple calls go against them he calls for officials jobs and thinks that the game shouldn't count. It's just tiring to listen to him talking out of both sides of his mouth so much. I am guilty for getting caught up in his "garbage" and I shouldn't. Thanks for setting me straight.

 

 

 

you are a complete liar. I ranted and ranted how bad the officiating was in the Super Bowl, I bet money on Seattle and wanted them to win badly straight up. Flat out lie

 

Second, I never made one officiating claim in the NC game, another bold face lie. Show me one post where I said officiating had anything to do with anything. OU shot themselves in the foot every time they turned around. That game is completely the Sooner fault. Ive said and I still think that is a great team, and was the best team in the country that year, just not that night.

 

 

Coffee, I dont follow this pr*ck around, and could care less if he drops dead. Im sick of his doughnuts, that I block his posts, except I heard about this bold face lie and had to punk this idiot.

 

 

Bottom line, Prof, back the off, you are losing more than credability after every post here. Dont make the mistake and lose your ability to post at all.

Edited September 19, 2006 by Sgt. Ryan