Balzac Posted September 21, 2006 Share Posted September 21, 2006 You seem to know more about this type of injury than... well... me, so I'll ask: Assuming it's bad, what kind of time do you think he would miss? Assuming it's actually not that bad, could it potentially get a lot worse if he ignores it or keeps playing? I'll be mad if you don't know the answers. If it's really bad, his career might be over. If it's marginally bad and he keeps playing without having it fixed, it will undoubtedly get worse. There are a number of surgical options, some of which only entail recovery time of 2-4 works . . . others that would take more like 9 months. It all depends on the extent of the injury and what types of risks he's willing to take in getting it fixed. But this is all conjecture at this point b/c we haven't seen any hard news. FYI - I know about this b/c I have 3 blown disks in my back and explored pretty much every option out there a couple years ago. That said, the healthcare available to professional athletes is a lot better than what's available to schlubs like me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Country Posted September 21, 2006 Share Posted September 21, 2006 HHmmm, I wonder who will get the shot now in TB.... I'm guessing Caddy gets one in his back. :drumroll: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinatown dragons Posted September 21, 2006 Share Posted September 21, 2006 luckily guy in my league dropped Pittman earlier today.....He drafted him before I was able to grab him as a back up for Caddy....needless to say, playing it safe, and grabbed him......in case he does got back problems and they linger..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avernus Posted September 21, 2006 Author Share Posted September 21, 2006 it was about 3:50 on espn news and they had a fantasy segment focusing on the injuries around the nfl... he mentioned the caddy injury as if it was breaking news.... he said herniated disc and rubbing against something so balzac is right... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulOttCarruth Posted September 21, 2006 Share Posted September 21, 2006 Yowza... not good news at all. Could this possibly be a career ender for him? Mike Alstott had surgery to repair a herniated disc a couple seasons ago and came back no worse for wear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinatown dragons Posted September 21, 2006 Share Posted September 21, 2006 anybody able to find any stories/info that indicates ESPN is right? i've searched the net...only thing i found Tampa related to herniated discs was Alstott......few years ago Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vet Posted September 21, 2006 Share Posted September 21, 2006 Is he still under warranty? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balzac Posted September 21, 2006 Share Posted September 21, 2006 Mike Alstott had surgery to repair a herniated disc a couple seasons ago and came back no worse for wear. That was in his neck, though - right? The disks in the back can be a much bigger problem b/c they bear multiples more weight than the neck disks do and take a beating on virtually every impact. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinatown dragons Posted September 21, 2006 Share Posted September 21, 2006 Well if the story 'broke' at 3:50, I figured there would be a bunch of links..stories..news reports.....havent seen any...anyone seen a report that said he's got disc problems....? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Posted September 21, 2006 Share Posted September 21, 2006 I did a google search and found nothing. I just traded for him last night. I'll be pissed if this is true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Posted September 21, 2006 Share Posted September 21, 2006 This is what I found on ESPN. Doesn't say anything about a herniated disc. Link Sep. 21 News: Williams said that the lack of carries, not the back spasms he has been dealing with, are the reason his on the field production has slipped, reports The Tampa Tribune. Scouts Take: The poor performance of the offensive line and the team's inability to stay with the running game due to playing from behind, are two major reasons of Williams lack of production. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bedoman Posted September 21, 2006 Share Posted September 21, 2006 I think everyone should run out and grab Michael Pittman..... God he would be such a STUD if Caddy were out or hurt...... We owners of Caddy need to hope that he gets more carries and a little better blocking this week and after the bye.....thats all not about his back and all the rumors and junk on this thread that honestly is in NOT ONE NEWS SOURCE YET....... This is a long thread with nothing concrete AT ALL attached to it..... WOW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrTed46 Posted September 21, 2006 Share Posted September 21, 2006 I think everyone should run out and grab Michael Pittman..... God he would be such a STUD if Caddy were out or hurt...... We owners of Caddy need to hope that he gets more carries and a little better blocking this week and after the bye.....thats all not about his back and all the rumors and junk on this thread that honestly is in NOT ONE NEWS SOURCE YET....... This is a long thread with nothing concrete AT ALL attached to it..... WOW god forbid we discuss anything in forums how dare us Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Posted September 21, 2006 Share Posted September 21, 2006 he doesn't have disks rubbing up against each other b/c that's not physically possible (they're rubbing against nerves, if anything). the impact of the herniated disks ultimately just depends on how bad they are and how far they're protruding - they can range from moderately painful to debilitating - from an epidural away from feeling good to surgery. overall, not a good sign. How is that related to back spasms? RB Cadillac Williams missed practice last week because of recurring back spasms, but that is not why he has been nearly invisible in the Bucs' two losses. In two games, Williams has carried the ball 23 times for 59 yards. HC Jon Gruden accredited Williams' lack of production to the fact Tampa has fallen behind early and the offense has had to abandon the run to catch up. "I'm fine. The back is not a problem," Williams said. "I played Sunday and it didn't give me trouble. Once I come to the sideline, I've got to keep moving, keep heat on it or it'll tighten up." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avernus Posted September 22, 2006 Author Share Posted September 22, 2006 So Avernus......where's the link? You are stating this as fact.......you are now in the Pittman thread......you looking to get Caddy cheap in a trade or what? What's the deal here.......why would all these reports say he's fine and then this? I already own him in my local... all I know is they had a 10 minute fantasy segment on espn news at 3:50...the "expert" said this and mentioned Westbrooks injury how it's bone on bone and he'll likely play this week, but won't practice... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suburban_pimp Posted September 22, 2006 Share Posted September 22, 2006 this was just on ESPN News recently... Sounds like player hatin'. Does anyone else find it odd that only one person caught this broadcast? Target marketing I suppose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avernus Posted September 22, 2006 Author Share Posted September 22, 2006 (edited) Sounds like player hatin'. Does anyone else find it odd that only one person caught this broadcast? Target marketing I suppose. you are a we todd.... shew.. edit: did you not read that I own him in my local.....which is a money league?... ahah shouldn't you be over at the advice forum wondering if you should start Coles over Holt?... Edited September 22, 2006 by Avernus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balzac Posted September 22, 2006 Share Posted September 22, 2006 How is that related to back spasms? "Back spasms" are actually often slightly herniated disks. The term is used very loosely to cover pretty much anything involving back pain . . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avernus Posted September 22, 2006 Author Share Posted September 22, 2006 I just watched the same guy say this again....he's the "medicine man" on "the fantasy show" for espn.....I TiVo'd it and am watching now because I couldn't catch it earlier... he said the same thing....and advised everyone look to pick up Pittman... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suburban_pimp Posted September 22, 2006 Share Posted September 22, 2006 Must be that Will Carroll dude...had Steve Smith dead last week...maybe he is onto something. Dude is a tool, a journalist of the non-medical variety at that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralph Furley Posted September 22, 2006 Share Posted September 22, 2006 Christ...what is going on??? I'm still trying to get over Steve smith being injured, let alone Caddy. Why aren't there any other published reports yet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Posted September 22, 2006 Share Posted September 22, 2006 "Back spasms" are actually often slightly herniated disks. The term is used very loosely to cover pretty much anything involving back pain . . . Didn't know that. I thought the spasms were purely muscular. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trainer_Phil Posted September 22, 2006 Share Posted September 22, 2006 "Back spasms" are actually often slightly herniated disks. The term is used very loosely to cover pretty much anything involving back pain . . . Wait a sec, let's not confuse everyone. Herniated discs is one of a handful of things that can cause back spasms. So when a team refers to an injury as a "back spasm" it definitely doesn't "often" mean that the player has a slightly herniated disc. The Bucs have not released information as to why Cadillac's back was giving problems but it could be just as simple as he didn't stretch or warm-up properly (as he claimed was the reason for his problems in the pre-season). Cadillac appears to be fine as he isn't listed on the team's official injury report. I think his slow start has a lot more to do with how poorly the Bucs have played. I'll make my usual inquiries about this and if I do find something I will report it in my next injury report, but right now I wouldn't be too concerned about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrTed46 Posted September 22, 2006 Share Posted September 22, 2006 Only thing that concerns me is ESPNs reporting on a herniated disk...they have been wrong before but they also have been right a few times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trainer_Phil Posted September 22, 2006 Share Posted September 22, 2006 Only thing that concerns me is ESPNs reporting on a herniated disk...they have been wrong before but they also have been right a few times. I don't see where ESPN is reporting that he is dealing with a herniated disc. And I'm pretty sure that if he was dealing with such an injury he would be listed somewhere on the injury report. Does anybody have a link to any article that even speculates that Cadillac is dealing with a herniation? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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