Jolly Rodgers Posted September 28, 2006 Share Posted September 28, 2006 Michigan district ends season for 0-4 football teamAssociated Press OSCODA, Mich. -- The Oscoda Area High School football team hasn't won a game, or even scored a point, in four games this season. Because of that, the school district has decided to cancel the remaining games. Despite pleas from players and parents, the board recently upheld the school's earlier decision to end the season, saying players risked injury in trying to take on much stronger opponents. "When you go to a game on Friday night and see a team physically dominated, those are the indisputable facts," coach Kyle Tobin said. "Seniors, I feel for you. There's nothing I can say other than I'm sorry," board member Neal Sweet said. "But you're not quitters. You went out there and did your best." Tobin said the team was not physically competitive, had too few players and faced a tough schedule in the North East Michigan Conference, The Bay City Times reported. Senior quarterback Mike Gondek pleaded with the school board to reconsider the school's Sept. 19 decision to cancel the remaining games. "All I ever wanted to do was play football," Gondek said. "My teammates never felt so unsafe that we didn't want to be out there." Tobin, a first-year coach, defended his decision. "I have 28 years of coaching experience in high school and college, and I know the difference between a team playing bad and a team that's unsafe," he said. Copyright 2006 by The Associated Press IMO, this is total crap. I dont know about you but this coach is basically giving up on the season and his team. The school district is telling the student that all they care about it winning. Let the kids play and get their butts kicked. If they have a problem with it then they can quit. No one is forcing these kids to play football. If they are worried about getting hurt then they can make the decision to quit on their own. High School football is a game and should be treated like one. I think this coach is pathetic and should never be allowed to coach anywhere again. Ok, I'm now done venting.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menudo Posted September 28, 2006 Share Posted September 28, 2006 (edited) IMO, this is total crap. I dont know about you but this coach is basically giving up on the season and his team. The school district is telling the student that all they care about it winning. Let the kids play and get their butts kicked. If they have a problem with it then they can quit. No one is forcing these kids to play football. If they are worried about getting hurt then they can make the decision to quit on their own. High School football is a game and should be treated like one. I think this coach is pathetic and should never be allowed to coach anywhere again. Ok, I'm now done venting.. Let them play !!! Edited September 28, 2006 by Menudo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage Beatings Posted September 28, 2006 Share Posted September 28, 2006 This is one of the worst most panzie-assed decisions I have ever seen. Un-freakin-believeable! I can't even express how upset this BS is making me!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vet Posted September 28, 2006 Share Posted September 28, 2006 Kids can learn a lot from a good a$$ whoopin'. Some of the most valuable lessons I've learnt in life have been the direct result of losing, not winning. Like they say, you gotta lose to know how to win. Very lame that they would deprive these kids the opportunity to play the sport. What ever happend to "It's not whether you win or lose....?" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikesVikes Posted September 28, 2006 Share Posted September 28, 2006 (edited) IMO, this is total crap. I dont know about you but this coach is basically giving up on the season and his team. The school district is telling the student that all they care about it winning. Let the kids play and get their butts kicked. If they have a problem with it then they can quit. No one is forcing these kids to play football. If they are worried about getting hurt then they can make the decision to quit on their own. High School football is a game and should be treated like one. I think this coach is pathetic and should never be allowed to coach anywhere again. Ok, I'm now done venting.. I couldn't agree more with your assessment of the situation. That is terrible and just plain stupid. Dude's been coaching for 28 years? Let's hope that he gives it up for good for somebody else. This reminds me of my high school class a long time ago. We were like in the 9th or 10th grade. Most of the varsity football team was found at a kegger and all but a one or two of them were kept from playing in the next game. That left a bunch of 9th graders to play the next game. We didn't forfeit. We actually played the game and won it as well! They were excited to have the chance to play and they played well. Edited September 28, 2006 by MikesVikes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muck Posted September 28, 2006 Share Posted September 28, 2006 Like the QB said, all most of these kids ever wanted to do was to play football... This is just another reason why public schools suck. Way too concerned with psyche and feelings ... not concerned enough about character development and life experiences. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonkeyOne Posted September 28, 2006 Share Posted September 28, 2006 to them. Losing teaches you more than winning in terms of character (well that's my excuse). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronco Billy Posted September 28, 2006 Share Posted September 28, 2006 (edited) Well, the school district certainly has a firm grasp on the purpose and intent of athletics. And the HC saying that he knows the difference between a bad team & an unsafe team? What a load of crap. How do you think Air Force felt when it went to TEN? Physically dominated? You bet, just ask HC Fischer DeBerry. They managed to find a way to compete with physically inferior athletes, didn't they? You need to do some coaching, coach. That's what they're paying you for. What a freakin' joke. I guess the next time the kids don't do well on standardized tests, they'll just dismantle the school... Edited September 28, 2006 by Bronco Billy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch Oven Posted September 28, 2006 Share Posted September 28, 2006 This does sound pretty lame, but you do have to wonder just how bad and weak these kids were to be deemed unsafe to play. Having not seen any footage, I'm not going to totally blow up at the decision. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReturnToSender Posted September 28, 2006 Share Posted September 28, 2006 99% of all high school players will be going on with their life after football, even if they play College ball of some sort, they are there for an education. making the NFL is the longest of long shots. that being said, they play highgschool football to learn team work, trust, build relationships, and lay a foundation that they will use for the rest of their lives. Let's say they play, and this week that little engine that could story WR score a TD..think he won't remember it for the rest of his life? Come on folks, let the kids play Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hat Trick Posted September 28, 2006 Share Posted September 28, 2006 Kids can learn a lot from a good a$$ whoopin'. Some of the most valuable lessons I've learnt in life have been the direct result of losing, not winning. Like they say, you gotta lose to know how to win. Very lame that they would deprive these kids the opportunity to play the sport. What ever happend to "It's not whether you win or lose....?" Couldn't have said it better myself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiegie Posted September 28, 2006 Share Posted September 28, 2006 What a freakin' joke. I guess the next time the kids don't do well on standardized tests, they'll just dismantle the school... so, you're not in favor of the "no child left behind" act? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gros Membres! Posted September 28, 2006 Share Posted September 28, 2006 (edited) Let me tell you, I played quarterback for my high school football team in Texas and we lost every game that year! The team proceeded to reload and got beat every game the next year. They still carry on the football tradition down at my former high school and sometimes endure rough seasons and sometimes tear through people. I got my clock cleaned numerous times but got back up and then got angry enough to start doing some hitting. It was less about the losing and more about spending time with friends and getting out on the field, running around, and trying to make some plays. Nothing beats a football game on a beautiful Saturday morning in Texas. Despite our losing season, the opportunity to play even gave some guys the exposure to get scholarships to D-1 teams (our running back went on a full ride to Northwestern to be the punt returner/RB during the Barnett days). I still look back on it fondly. To this day, whenever I step into a touch football game in a park on a Sunday I'm going balls-out trying to avenge my losing season in high school. I usually throw for about 220, 2 TDs, sprinkling in a rushing TD, and a few passes caught for 30-50 yards (with the possibility of a TD). Let the kids play. It's good for them. Edit: format Edited September 28, 2006 by Gros Membres! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronco Billy Posted September 28, 2006 Share Posted September 28, 2006 so, you're not in favor of the "no child left behind" act? Not to get too far off topic, but for the record and having 12 years in the public education system before I couldn't take it anymore, I believe firmly that standardized testing is a huge joke on this country - or rather it would be if the results weren't so pathetic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Vatican Hitsquad Posted September 28, 2006 Share Posted September 28, 2006 Kids can learn a lot from a good a$$ whoopin'. Some of the most valuable lessons I've learnt in life have been the direct result of losing, not winning. Like they say, you gotta lose to know how to win. Very lame that they would deprive these kids the opportunity to play the sport. What ever happend to "It's not whether you win or lose....?" Funny you say this, as I always said one of the biggest influences on my life was my Pop Warner coach. Joe A. In my first season we were 0-7, and I remember crying after losing that first game. Joe taught me to enjoy playing the game and to just keep trying each week amongst other things. The next year we won 2 games, but almost every kid that was still young enough to be on the team came back to play. Our 3rd year we lost the Championship game (having made it it by previously beatign a team that hadn't lost a game in 4 years). It was a very Bad News Bears moment, I remember, we were sad to lsoe but just happy to have played. Joe A. taught me that losing is OK, so long as your trying and having fun. Winning comes later. It's a f$#king shame a bunch of old d0uchebag$ have decided that the kids don't and won't have a chance to win, so why bother. They should be the ones convicning these kids not to quit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmo-J Posted September 28, 2006 Share Posted September 28, 2006 99% of all high school players will be going on with their life after football, even if they play College ball of some sort, they are there for an education. making the NFL is the longest of long shots. that being said, they play highgschool football to learn team work, trust, build relationships, and lay a foundation that they will use for the rest of their lives. Absolutely - and those who have played HS football and not gone on to play it at any other level can attest that there's nothing else like it. I'm 35 and I still have HS football dreams from time to time - and when I wake up I always feel sad that I'll never be a part of that type of organized sports ever again. So f-ing what that they haven't scored a point yet this season! One lesson in life, if not the most important thing to learn in life: you get up after you get beat down. Now these kids are being taught that when you get beat down, you quit... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menudo Posted September 28, 2006 Share Posted September 28, 2006 Kids can learn a lot from a good a$$ whoopin'. Some of the most valuable lessons I've learnt in life have been the direct result of losing, not winning. Like they say, you gotta lose to know how to win. Very lame that they would deprive these kids the opportunity to play the sport. What ever happend to "It's not whether you win or lose....?" Keep this in mind when the Steelers beat the Bengals for that 11th win during Week 17....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage Beatings Posted September 28, 2006 Share Posted September 28, 2006 Absolutely - and those who have played HS football and not gone on to play it at any other level can attest that there's nothing else like it. I'm 35 and I still have HS football dreams from time to time - and when I wake up I always feel sad that I'll never be a part of that type of organized sports ever again. Exact same situation for me. I loved playing football more than just about anything else that I did in my young life. I dream about it too. And I can easily say that the most meaningful game I ever played was in a losing effort in the State Quarterfinals. We got our asses handed to us by a team that was at least twice our size. At my 10 year HS Reunion, one of the guys on my team (our Free Safety) came up to me out of the blue and thanked me for being on the field with him and not giving up in that game even though we obviously were not going to win it late in the 4th quarter. Those kids are being flat out robbed of that kind of experience. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ursa Majoris Posted September 28, 2006 Share Posted September 28, 2006 They should have finished out the season then considered shifting to a more appropriate conference. My local HS, about 1,000 kids, was in a conference with several of the local state-level powerhouses, schools with well over 3,000 kids that recruited across the entire metro. Basically, we wound up every year playing all-star teams. We'd win a game here and there but every season was 1-7 or 0-8, pretty much. The kids still played their hearts out as they lost to a powerhouse 56-7 or whatever. Eventually we relocated to a conference with similar sized schools, along with another small HS that was with us in the big school conference. Now we compete on equal terms. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pope Flick Posted September 28, 2006 Share Posted September 28, 2006 So is this the final end to their program? I would think so because they've just robbed their remaining opponents of games and if they re-sked next year who would want to play them? "Sorry, we're not going to schedule you since you'll quit again." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronco Billy Posted September 28, 2006 Share Posted September 28, 2006 So is this the final end to their program? I would think so because they've just robbed their remaining opponents of games and if they re-sked next year who would want to play them? "Sorry, we're not going to schedule you since you'll quit again." Nebraska could probably use another home game... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loyalboyd Posted September 28, 2006 Share Posted September 28, 2006 Say What Willis?! I guess you can tell all those students. Hey if you can get it right the first time just quit. Tell your boss to go to hell heck even your parents if you cant get it right. This is BS! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrTed46 Posted September 28, 2006 Share Posted September 28, 2006 If that was the mentality of the NFL the Raiders would have forfeited all their games from here on out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trrhyne Posted September 28, 2006 Share Posted September 28, 2006 I had a similar situation on a losing team, 0-10. We really bonded as group and had a lot of fun. It's been 20 years and I still remember almost everyone who was on that team. To this day, whenever I step into a touch football game in a park on a Sunday I'm going balls-out trying to avenge my losing season in high school. I usually throw for about 220, 2 TDs, sprinkling in a rushing TD, and a few passes caught for 30-50 yards (with the possibility of a TD). Edit: format You are scoring 24 pts a game and I need a good QB. I going right now to check my league's waiver wire. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brewer Posted September 28, 2006 Share Posted September 28, 2006 Is their team name the "Skins"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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