Rockerbraves Posted October 12, 2006 Share Posted October 12, 2006 Eagles are favored by 3 on the road in the Dome? 2006 version of the Saints still not getting any RESPECT. Could be one of the biggest FF games this weekend with the over/under at 46 1/2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ced1001 Posted October 12, 2006 Share Posted October 12, 2006 Um yeah... I've got Westbrook, LJ Smith, Brees, Deuce, Colston and Horn. My opponent has McNabb. Safe to say I'll be watching... and hoping for a massive shootout. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rajncajn Posted October 12, 2006 Share Posted October 12, 2006 Actually I'm kind of surprised it's not more. Don't get me wrong, I think the Saints have a great shot at beating them but I think Philly is a much better team than Carolina and we couldn't get it done against them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLAYER Posted October 12, 2006 Share Posted October 12, 2006 Actually I'm kind of surprised it's not more. Don't get me wrong, I think the Saints have a great shot at beating them but I think Philly is a much better team than Carolina and we couldn't get it done against them. Total trap game if Philly comes out flat and Payton lit a fire under the them they could pull the upset. If Philly plays like they have all year it could be ugly. There is one thing we know for sure- Donte will start and be sitting on the bench by end of 1st quarter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cre8tiff Posted October 12, 2006 Share Posted October 12, 2006 I was tempted to pick up Reggie Brown, but I am already playing LJ,Westbrook and PHI D. Not prudent to put too many eggs in one baskett (). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TDFFFreak Posted October 12, 2006 Share Posted October 12, 2006 Total trap game if Philly comes out flat and Payton lit a fire under the them they could pull the upset. If Philly plays like they have all year it could be ugly. There is one thing we know for sure- Donte will start and be sitting on the bench by end of 1st quarter. As long as he has a TD and about 50 yards, he can sit after the first quarter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLAYER Posted October 12, 2006 Share Posted October 12, 2006 As long as he has a TD and about 50 yards, he can sit after the first quarter. We are talking about stallworth here right. do what you will, but you have noticed the last three games right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronco Billy Posted October 12, 2006 Share Posted October 12, 2006 (edited) Eagles are favored by 3 on the road in the Dome? 2006 version of the Saints still not getting any RESPECT. Could be one of the biggest FF games this weekend with the over/under at 46 1/2 Doesn't surprise me in the least. For some peculiar reason, there is some notion that a team like PHI, that has a mediocre running game and has a D in the bottom third of the league, is an elite team & a legitimate contender for the Super Bowl. As much of a detractor of Reggie Bush as I am, he is still an impact player in that he obviously has the full attention of the D every time he is on the field, which allows McAllister - who lots of people have forgotten was considered a top RB before he was hurt - lots of room to operate as well as giving Brees a solid target in the flats (and we all know how Brees loves to operate in that area with the success Gates had there with him). If I were a betting man, I'd put a significant amount of money on the Saints at home getting 3 in a game of this magnitude. That spread is backwards. The Saints ought to be giving 3. Edited October 12, 2006 by Bronco Billy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TDFFFreak Posted October 12, 2006 Share Posted October 12, 2006 We are talking about stallworth here right. do what you will, but you have noticed the last three games right. I don't have him on any of my fantasy teams. I just want him to get a TD before limping off the field. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TDFFFreak Posted October 12, 2006 Share Posted October 12, 2006 Doesn't surprise me in the least. For some peculiar reason, there is some notion that a team like PHI, that has a mediocre running game and has a D in the bottom third of the league, is an elite team & a legitimate contender for the Super Bowl. As much of a detractor of Reggie Bush as I am, he is still an impact player in that he obviously has the full attention of the D every time he is on the field, which allows McAllister - who lots of people have forgotten was considered a top RB before he was hurt - lots of room to operate as well as giving Brees a solid target in the flats (and we all know how Brees loves to operate in that area with the success Gates had there with him). If I were a betting man, I'd put a significant amount of money on the Saints at home getting 3 in a game of this magnitude. That spread is backwards. The Saints ought to be giving 3. But the key is that they score more points then their opponents. Not that this is an easy win by any stretch, but on any given day it'll be the Saints who have to match up with Philly's movement of the ball on offense, not the other way around. This game should be a pick 'em. If it were NO -3, I'd put some decent scratch on the game in Philly's favor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronco Billy Posted October 12, 2006 Share Posted October 12, 2006 But the key is that they score more points then their opponents. LOL Both teams have played relatively weak schedules so far, with PHI's opponents being a collective 8-14, while NO's opponents are a collective 8-15. However, PHI has not played a team over .500, and of the two teams that were .500, they lost to one of them (NYG) while beating the other (DAL). On the other hand, NO has played 2 teams over .500, beating one of them (ATL) while losing to the other (CAR). PHI has an advantage in both phases of its offense, matching their #1 passing game against NO's #9 pass D, and rushing with the #11 run O vs the #23 run D. NO also has an offensive advantage - its #14 run O vs the PHI #16 run D is a standoff, but NO's passing game has a massive advanatge with the #7 pass O against the #26 pass D. TO margin is pretty close, with PHI tied for #8 while NO is tied for #12. In short, statistically, the game ought to be very close in regard to the way 2 teams match up, with both offenses better than the Ds they go against. But with NO being at home, and with that top 10 pass O going against a bottom 10 pass D, that spells a NO advantage in the game to me. I'm not a fan of either team & could really care less regarding who wins, other than PHI being over-hyped so much, but I like the NO end of the action getting 3. This ought to be a real soild test for both teams, but I think NO's close game against CAR & crushing of ATL will serve it better than the schedule PHI has faced so far (though I do think the Giants are better than their record - and the Eagles, BTW). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myhousekey Posted October 12, 2006 Share Posted October 12, 2006 Don't forget the Saints just lost Roman Harper for the year. Kid was playing pretty well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockerbraves Posted October 12, 2006 Author Share Posted October 12, 2006 LOL Both teams have played relatively weak schedules so far, with PHI's opponents being a collective 8-14, while NO's opponents are a collective 8-15. However, PHI has not played a team over .500, and of the two teams that were .500, they lost to one of them (NYG) while beating the other (DAL). On the other hand, NO has played 2 teams over .500, beating one of them (ATL) while losing to the other (CAR). PHI has an advantage in both phases of its offense, matching their #1 passing game against NO's #9 pass D, and rushing with the #11 run O vs the #23 run D. NO also has an offensive advantage - its #14 run O vs the PHI #16 run D is a standoff, but NO's passing game has a massive advanatge with the #7 pass O against the #26 pass D. TO margin is pretty close, with PHI tied for #8 while NO is tied for #12. In short, statistically, the game ought to be very close in regard to the way 2 teams match up, with both offenses better than the Ds they go against. But with NO being at home, and with that top 10 pass O going against a bottom 10 pass D, that spells a NO advantage in the game to me. I'm not a fan of either team & could really care less regarding who wins, other than PHI being over-hyped so much, but I like the NO end of the action getting 3. This ought to be a real soild test for both teams, but I think NO's close game against CAR & crushing of ATL will serve it better than the schedule PHI has faced so far (though I do think the Giants are better than their record - and the Eagles, BTW). Nice breakdown of the game. One would think the casual better would jump all over the Eagles this weekend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TDFFFreak Posted October 13, 2006 Share Posted October 13, 2006 (edited) LOL Both teams have played relatively weak schedules so far, with PHI's opponents being a collective 8-14, while NO's opponents are a collective 8-15. However, PHI has not played a team over .500, and of the two teams that were .500, they lost to one of them (NYG) while beating the other (DAL). On the other hand, NO has played 2 teams over .500, beating one of them (ATL) while losing to the other (CAR). PHI has an advantage in both phases of its offense, matching their #1 passing game against NO's #9 pass D, and rushing with the #11 run O vs the #23 run D. NO also has an offensive advantage - its #14 run O vs the PHI #16 run D is a standoff, but NO's passing game has a massive advanatge with the #7 pass O against the #26 pass D. TO margin is pretty close, with PHI tied for #8 while NO is tied for #12. In short, statistically, the game ought to be very close in regard to the way 2 teams match up, with both offenses better than the Ds they go against. But with NO being at home, and with that top 10 pass O going against a bottom 10 pass D, that spells a NO advantage in the game to me. I'm not a fan of either team & could really care less regarding who wins, other than PHI being over-hyped so much, but I like the NO end of the action getting 3. This ought to be a real soild test for both teams, but I think NO's close game against CAR & crushing of ATL will serve it better than the schedule PHI has faced so far (though I do think the Giants are better than their record - and the Eagles, BTW). Something to consider in regards to the #26 pass D of the Eagles. Until last week, they played without Lito Sheppard. Now I know they gave up a bunch of points to Dallas with him in the lineup (although 7 of those was a fumble recovery for a TD), but consider that they have gotten way ahead and perhaps played more of a conservative game come the 2nd half. How can Brees and company handle the blitz? This game should show that off and I expect a lot of short dumps to Bush. This is a close game IMO. Edited October 13, 2006 by TDFFFreak Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gd74 Posted October 13, 2006 Share Posted October 13, 2006 I actually see Philly winning by 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockerbraves Posted October 13, 2006 Author Share Posted October 13, 2006 I actually see Philly winning by 10 I would think most people would? That line has to go up from Philly - 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbimm Posted October 13, 2006 Share Posted October 13, 2006 I actually see Philly winning by 10 Remember we will be there screaming ours lungs out to make sure it's more difficult for McNabb to run his offense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TDFFFreak Posted October 13, 2006 Share Posted October 13, 2006 (edited) Remember we will be there screaming ours lungs out to make sure it's more difficult for McNabb to run his offense. He's won in worse conditions so that doesn't concern me. What concerns me is that this could be a let down game not to mention against a vastly underrated team (even at 4-1). I am surprised this game isn't getting more play in the media this week. Edited October 13, 2006 by TDFFFreak Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbimm Posted October 13, 2006 Share Posted October 13, 2006 He's won in worse conditions so that doesn't concern me. What concerns me is that this could be a let down game not to mention against a vastly underrated team (even at 4-1). I am surprised this game isn't getting more play in the media this week. I can promise you it's getting plenty of press here and am sure it is also in Philly. This is a big game for both teams. With the idea that it should be a close game we the fans very well may make the difference! I think and agree with the idea that the Saints still havent proven anything but a win on Sun and people will be standing up and taking notice. We shall see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TDFFFreak Posted October 13, 2006 Share Posted October 13, 2006 I can promise you it's getting plenty of press here and am sure it is also in Philly. This is a big game for both teams. With the idea that it should be a close game we the fans very well may make the difference! I think and agree with the idea that the Saints still havent proven anything but a win on Sun and people will be standing up and taking notice. We shall see. It probably hasn't registered with the national media as much becase they are just coming off the Philly/Dallas game and, unless it's a New York team, no team deserves heavy coverage 2 weeks in a row. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rajncajn Posted October 13, 2006 Share Posted October 13, 2006 It probably hasn't registered with the national media as much becase they are just coming off the Philly/Dallas game and, unless it's a New York team, no team deserves heavy coverage 2 weeks in a row. It hasn't registered with the national media because they don't expect it to be a big game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gd74 Posted October 13, 2006 Share Posted October 13, 2006 I can promise you it's getting plenty of press here and am sure it is also in Philly. This is a big game for both teams. With the idea that it should be a close game we the fans very well may make the difference! I think and agree with the idea that the Saints still havent proven anything but a win on Sun and people will be standing up and taking notice. We shall see. Honestly its been just like any other week in Philly....Dallas was a huge week last week....but the real coverage normally starts on sports talk on thursdays...and it did this week for the Saints...just like it did for the 49ers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TDFFFreak Posted October 13, 2006 Share Posted October 13, 2006 It hasn't registered with the national media because they don't expect it to be a big game. Am I missing something? How is this not a very important game for both teams? The Saints are looking to be legitimized in the eyes of the everyone else and a win over Philly does that. Philly needs to show that they can go on the road and beat a quality opponent and re-cement their status as a contender in the NFC. This has all the makings of a big game minus the antics of some a-hole WR with the Cowboys. Why can't we get some coverage and just enjoy some good football without any significant side story? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronco Billy Posted October 13, 2006 Share Posted October 13, 2006 Am I missing something? How is this not a very important game for both teams? The Saints are looking to be legitimized in the eyes of the everyone else and a win over Philly does that. Philly needs to show that they can go on the road and beat a quality opponent and re-cement their status as a contender in the NFC. This has all the makings of a big game minus the antics of some a-hole WR with the Cowboys. Why can't we get some coverage and just enjoy some good football without any significant side story? Very good posting. Don't forget the potential playoff implications as far as a game on the home field or playoff seeding if the two teams continue their early season success. The Saints have all the earmarks of a young team emerging into a playoff contender and the Eagles, though having some glaring weaknesses, are still a legit contender in line behind CHI in the NFC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rajncajn Posted October 13, 2006 Share Posted October 13, 2006 Am I missing something? How is this not a very important game for both teams? The Saints are looking to be legitimized in the eyes of the everyone else and a win over Philly does that. Philly needs to show that they can go on the road and beat a quality opponent and re-cement their status as a contender in the NFC. This has all the makings of a big game minus the antics of some a-hole WR with the Cowboys. Why can't we get some coverage and just enjoy some good football without any significant side story? Because beyond the glorifying of the Saints comeback story the media really doesn't give the Saints enough respect to think that they can contend with Philly. I've heard enough people say during the past week that, although the Saints are clearly an up-and-coming team who are truly much better than last year, they are still not on the same level as Philly. Without the side-story, to the national media the Saints are still just the Saints and outside of the Gulf Coast I think you would have a hard time finding more than a handful of people who truly think we have a chance this weekend. The only way that this would be a truly "big game" is if the Saints win. The National media are playing the odds that won't happen & this game will just be boring & one-sided, as they have done for the entire history of the franchise until this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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