Rockerbraves Posted October 17, 2006 Share Posted October 17, 2006 Anyone else agree with Steve Young that the play Edge fumbled should have been whistled dead? His forward motion was obviusly stopped and the Bears had what seemed to be an eternity to jerk the ball out of his hands. Like Young said, Edge should have secured the ball more, but come on now. Ripping on the ball like that should be reserved for backyard football games only. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrTed46 Posted October 17, 2006 Share Posted October 17, 2006 Nope Urlacher overpowered James...you want the whistle blown dead stop fighting for yards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaFreak Posted October 17, 2006 Share Posted October 17, 2006 Anyone else agree with Steve Young that the play Edge fumbled should have been whistled dead? His forward motion was obviusly stopped and the Bears had what seemed to be an eternity to jerk the ball out of his hands. Like Young said, Edge should have secured the ball more, but come on now. Ripping on the ball like that should be reserved for backyard football games only. Not only should have they blown the whistle but they should have let Arizona re-run the play so something positive could happen for them on that down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duchess Jack Posted October 17, 2006 Share Posted October 17, 2006 I absolutely agree... especially if they are going to pull this 'in the grasp' BS with QBs..... he was done... they just wouldn't let him fall Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexgaddis Posted October 17, 2006 Share Posted October 17, 2006 Not only should have they blown the whistle but they should have let Arizona re-run the play so something positive could happen for them on that down. It should have been a 15 yard penalty for unsportsmanlike conduct on Urlacher...he shouldn't steal the ball like that, Edge was just trying to run for more yards... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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bushwacked Posted October 17, 2006 Share Posted October 17, 2006 Call could of gone either way, seems like they usually blow they play dead under those circumstances and a lot of times they blow the whistle after the ball comes out. I actually think that since Edge was barely averaging over 1+ per carry had a lot to do with the non-whistle. His progress was pretty much stopped within milliseconds of getting the ball all night. If that play happens after a 5-yard gain I think the refs blow the whistle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STL Fan Posted October 17, 2006 Share Posted October 17, 2006 No way the whistle blows when a guy is completely upright and still moving his feet. He could easily have twisted out of that, and if the refs blew the whistle they'd have been crucified. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage Beatings Posted October 17, 2006 Share Posted October 17, 2006 Very close call... seeing it at live game speed, I was surprised that it was not blown dead before the fumble. There was another play as well, where everyone was surprised that the whistle hadn't been blown (remember the kick return) and it took a replay review to overturn a TD when everybody with coke-rimmed glasses, glacoma and stigmatisms could see that the guy was down at mid-field. Why the hesitation to blow that whistle? Not sure. But again... close call on that play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmarc117 Posted October 17, 2006 Share Posted October 17, 2006 Anyone else agree with Steve Young that the play Edge fumbled should have been whistled dead? His forward motion was obviusly stopped and the Bears had what seemed to be an eternity to jerk the ball out of his hands. Like Young said, Edge should have secured the ball more, but come on now. Ripping on the ball like that should be reserved for backyard football games only. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage Beatings Posted October 17, 2006 Share Posted October 17, 2006 No way the whistle blows when a guy is completely upright and still moving his feet. He could easily have twisted out of that, and if the refs blew the whistle they'd have been crucified. Well, c'mon now... that's just not true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushwacked Posted October 17, 2006 Share Posted October 17, 2006 Well, c'mon now... that's just not true. Not only that it doesn't matter, when forward progress is stopped, it is stopped. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STL Fan Posted October 17, 2006 Share Posted October 17, 2006 Well, c'mon now... that's just not true. Well not easily, I guess, but if a guy is upright and still driving with his feet, that's a live play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockerbraves Posted October 17, 2006 Author Share Posted October 17, 2006 Hey don't get me wrong I'm not belly aching I had no players or wager on the game. Don't think Steve Young was pulling for any team either. He simply stated his opinion of the refs not blowing the whistle. The fumble certainly wasn't caused by a hit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushwacked Posted October 17, 2006 Share Posted October 17, 2006 Well not easily, I guess, but if a guy is upright and still driving with his feet, that's a live play. That is not accurate either. I don't really think it was that bad of a call, but plays are blown dead all the time where guys are upright and still driving with their feet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goopster24 Posted October 17, 2006 Share Posted October 17, 2006 I honestly think this is a moot point. Also, if you look closely, it seems as if he is still driving but the ball is already on the ground. Urlacher was very, very quick in his strip. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainHook Posted October 17, 2006 Share Posted October 17, 2006 The refs have been told by the league to not be whistle happy. That way, plays can be challenged. There is nothing worse than a play being unchallengable because it was whistled dead. This is a league mandated deal. Edge could have dropped to a knee, and that would have ended the play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kraftykraft Posted October 17, 2006 Share Posted October 17, 2006 Dead ball calls are always a judgement call. Sure, it was close to being blown dead, but other than feeling something of an underdog backing desire to see the Cards beat the undefeated Bears, I have no problem with what happened. As I recall, the bigger problem in looking at the replay was that Edge only had one hand on the ball. Being piled up like that, where anyone could have reached in for the strip, he should have protected the ball better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ursa Majoris Posted October 17, 2006 Share Posted October 17, 2006 The refs have been told by the league to not be whistle happy. That way, plays can be challenged. There is nothing worse than a play being unchallengable because it was whistled dead. This is a league mandated deal. Edge could have dropped to a knee, and that would have ended the play. Exactly what I was about to post. Not long ago, everyone was saying the whistles were going too early. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmarc117 Posted October 17, 2006 Share Posted October 17, 2006 how many times has someone complained about an early whistle.....arent the refs instructed to not blow the whistle until they are absolutely positive that the play is dead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azazello1313 Posted October 17, 2006 Share Posted October 17, 2006 the whistle coulda blown a split-second before the fumble, it coulda blown a split second after. either way it's a totally subjective thing, and edge was definitely still up and fighting for yards when the ball was stripped. i think the refs woulda blown the whistle if it was a QB there, but they tend to give RBs the benefit of the doubt because a LOT of times a back like edge will squirt out of a situation like that and pick up more yardage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STL Fan Posted October 17, 2006 Share Posted October 17, 2006 The refs have been told by the league to not be whistle happy. That way, plays can be challenged. There is nothing worse than a play being unchallengable because it was whistled dead. This is a league mandated deal. Edge could have dropped to a knee, and that would have ended the play. Exactly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LooGie Posted October 17, 2006 Share Posted October 17, 2006 Urlacher was just being mean spirited. He's a bully. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ursa Majoris Posted October 17, 2006 Share Posted October 17, 2006 Urlacher was just being mean spirited. He's a bully. The reason Urlacher wasn't blocked is that Green couldn't find anyone willing to do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LooGie Posted October 17, 2006 Share Posted October 17, 2006 The reason Urlacher wasn't blocked is that Green couldn't find anyone willing to do it. Urlacher makes Bruschi look like a villainous homicidal maniac. Urlacher for PRESIDENT!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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