Marv Albert Posted November 3, 2006 Share Posted November 3, 2006 This is a screw up of historic proportions you can say that again! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMD Posted November 4, 2006 Author Share Posted November 4, 2006 WCOFF has a blind bid process for getting free agents. A lot of huddlers play in it (including the winner from last year). They are supposed to go on Friday at 8 PM EST. Instead, the server clock evidently cycled wrong and though AM was PM and it processed all the blind bids at 8 AM this morning. Lots of people (myself included) do their blind bids on Friday afternoon when you have had the week to look at injuries, etc. But it processed and awarded players at 8 AM. Now everyone knows what the highest bids were on players as of 8 AM. There is no easy way out of this. This is a screw up of historic proportions since about 760 teams paid a couple of grand for their teams. DOH! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TDFFFreak Posted November 4, 2006 Share Posted November 4, 2006 I think they should give all entry money back, but keep the prize money as is. That'll teach them... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hat Trick Posted November 4, 2006 Share Posted November 4, 2006 Whoa.....have they said anything about the screrw-up and what they are going to do to rectify the situation? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loaf Posted November 4, 2006 Share Posted November 4, 2006 MFL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMD Posted November 4, 2006 Author Share Posted November 4, 2006 WCOFF has not spoken yet because they are probably talking to an attorney but XPert said this: Guys, we can't express enough our frustration that this situation happened. All of our servers synch with a time server each night at 4AM, and for some reason the synch caused them all to go to PM this morning. We are looking into why that happened and will make sure it doesn't happen again. I've talked to Lenny, and the only solution that we can offer at this point is that all bids that have been run will stand. And we will run another set of bids at the normal time tonight. All player drops that were made this morning will no longer be available for pickup. I will send out an email to everyone to let them know what is happening. Again, our apologies. -------------------- Xpert Sports Letting what was only preliminary bids stand is not going to make anyone happy other than the guys that got away with getting players for possibly less than they should have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushwacked Posted November 4, 2006 Share Posted November 4, 2006 And this comes after their league hosting software decided to take a dump at about 10 minutes before kick off a couple of Sundays ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loaf Posted November 4, 2006 Share Posted November 4, 2006 oops Xpert Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big John Posted November 4, 2006 Share Posted November 4, 2006 Instead, the server clock evidently cycled wrong and though AM was PM and it processed all the blind bids at 8 AM this morning. Did you know the Huddle boards are also doing this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage Beatings Posted November 4, 2006 Share Posted November 4, 2006 WCOFF has not spoken yet because they are probably talking to an attorney but XPert said this: Letting what was only preliminary bids stand is not going to make anyone happy other than the guys that got away with getting players for possibly less than they should have. Wow... what a very poor solution if that's what they end up doing. No way those bids should stand. Freakin' Lenny! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Country Posted November 4, 2006 Share Posted November 4, 2006 Time to bring in Carl. I'm sure Lenny and Carl can figure it out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kpholmes Posted November 4, 2006 Share Posted November 4, 2006 Did you know the Huddle boards are also doing this? Yea I see that... seeing as how you posted that at 10:08 pm today... There any explenation for this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billay Posted November 4, 2006 Share Posted November 4, 2006 Rerun the bids again, and any player who won this morning and who won again in the evening should be reimbursed the difference of the two bids. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cre8tiff Posted November 4, 2006 Share Posted November 4, 2006 I smell lawsuits, smell them in the air.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grits and Shins Posted November 4, 2006 Share Posted November 4, 2006 That is ugly. There is absolutely no clean way out of it. If they let the winning bids stand then those that wait until Friday afternoon to submit their bids are screwed. If they reverse them all and go with the normal time those that revealed their hands are screwed. There is nothing that can be done that will please everybody. The fact that this is a high dollar league just makes matters worse. Probably the "fairest" thing to do is to let the bids stand. Players had all week to submit their bids and this solution only impacts that fraction of owners that delayed their blind bid process until the last day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMD Posted November 4, 2006 Author Share Posted November 4, 2006 That is ugly. There is absolutely no clean way out of it. If they let the winning bids stand then those that wait until Friday afternoon to submit their bids are screwed. If they reverse them all and go with the normal time those that revealed their hands are screwed. There is nothing that can be done that will please everybody. The fact that this is a high dollar league just makes matters worse. Probably the "fairest" thing to do is to let the bids stand. Players had all week to submit their bids and this solution only impacts that fraction of owners that delayed their blind bid process until the last day. According to their MB, they are now going to reverse the transactions and do it at the correct time. That is the closest to fair because otherwise some team owners never had a chance for certain players. Those prior bidders now have their hands shown, but you cannot assume they would have won the players with that bid without other teams being able to bid. I know for a fact I was going to bid on one player higher than what he was awarded for this morning and I never got a chance. That all said, they have not reversed them back out yet... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
godtomsatan Posted November 4, 2006 Share Posted November 4, 2006 According to their MB, they are now going to reverse the transactions and do it at the correct time. That is the closest to fair because otherwise some team owners never had a chance for certain players. Those prior bidders now have their hands shown, but you cannot assume they would have won the players with that bid without other teams being able to bid. I know for a fact I was going to bid on one player higher than what he was awarded for this morning and I never got a chance. That all said, they have not reversed them back out yet... That's the fair thing to do. This is week 9, and I doubt there are a lot of bidding wars going on for players. I thought the website crashing a couple weeks ago was kind of lame, but this is lamer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MustOfBeenDrunk Posted November 4, 2006 Share Posted November 4, 2006 read what they are saying http://forums.wcoff.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb...ic;f=1;t=003161 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushwacked Posted November 4, 2006 Share Posted November 4, 2006 According to their MB, they are now going to reverse the transactions and do it at the correct time. That is the closest to fair because otherwise some team owners never had a chance for certain players. There is no fairest way out of it....what about people who put in their bids but don't even know this happened. They check in tommorow to find out they had no bid requests processed. What a f'n mess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
untateve Posted November 4, 2006 Share Posted November 4, 2006 read what they are saying http://forums.wcoff.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb...ic;f=1;t=003161 many unhappy people there. Perhaps the best way to do this would have been to not have a timer process waivers but to have an individual responsible for going to the site and clicking on a button that reads, "Process Waivers." I use this at mfl. Works pretty good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ABearWithFurniture Posted November 4, 2006 Share Posted November 4, 2006 Time to bring in Carl. I'm sure Lenny and Carl can figure it out. Since the Huddle 'fired' Carl last year, he's been working as a server tech over at Xpert Sports...must have been one of his 'upgrades'... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darin3 Posted November 4, 2006 Share Posted November 4, 2006 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cre8tiff Posted November 4, 2006 Share Posted November 4, 2006 read what they are saying http://forums.wcoff.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb...ic;f=1;t=003161 LOL they gunned the topic! I guess NOW they know what Lenny has been doing. Wonder if he's an ex-Enron employee? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H8tank Posted November 4, 2006 Share Posted November 4, 2006 Probably the "fairest" thing to do is to let the bids stand. How could this possibly be construed as the 'fairest' solution? We are in a fight for first, one of our competitors gone a player he bid 10% of his yearly FA dollars on, we were going to bid a few dollars more, and would have won that player, but we always put our bids in Fri afternoon, we were not allowed access to that player. I am curious, cause you don't have a dog in this hunt, but are saying the same thing those that got early players are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jedi Posted November 4, 2006 Share Posted November 4, 2006 How could this possibly be construed as the 'fairest' solution? We are in a fight for first, one of our competitors gone a player he bid 10% of his yearly FA dollars on, we were going to bid a few dollars more, and would have won that player, but we always put our bids in Fri afternoon, we were not allowed access to that player. I am curious, cause you don't have a dog in this hunt, but are saying the same thing those that got early players are. I think i posted somewhere else that letting the bids stand was the best thing, but that's not right. They should have re-bid. Sucks, but that's what they should've done. What a mess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.