AO Posted November 15, 2006 Share Posted November 15, 2006 I added Colston to my team in week 2 as a TE / WR (this designation was made by yahoo) I have been useing him as both a WR and a TE. I started 0-4 and since have caught on fire and I am now 6-4. With that said I played the commissioner this week and he called me zSunday to tell me COlston could not be my TE.....I went nuts b/c this is week 11 and I didnt make the rules or set Colston as a TE /WR. What are your thoughts on this issue??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Storm Posted November 15, 2006 Share Posted November 15, 2006 If the league allowed you to play him all season as a TE, then you should be allowed to play him at that position for the remainder of the season. It seems as though the commish is trying to pull a fast one over you, b/c he does not want to lose, due to the fact Yahoo can't label a player's position correctly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gros Membres! Posted November 15, 2006 Share Posted November 15, 2006 Not cool at all. Especially since you are playing the Commish, someone will need to step in to arbitrate the matter. My policy is to not have mid-season rule changes. If this was a problem, it should have been corrected immediately (week 2). However, no one notices until the player starts doing well, of course. The Commish should not be allowed to change this. If he is insistent upon it (and friendships are involed), you may have to move it to a league-wide vote where majority rules. You have played him at TE before. There is absolutely no reason for the change now other than the Commish flexing his power muscle, imho. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolv Posted November 15, 2006 Share Posted November 15, 2006 If it wasn't discussed when he was first added that he could only be used as a WR, and you've been using him at both slots over the course of the season without a word from the commish, then tell him to pound sand. Thats just being a pu$$y outright. Its ok for you to beat up on other team owners, but not him. Whatta jerk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daboz Posted November 15, 2006 Share Posted November 15, 2006 Colston is a WR He is not a TE Reality sucks for yahoo... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duchess Jack Posted November 15, 2006 Share Posted November 15, 2006 The commish waiting until now to bring this up is wrong. You not having the balls to bring up an obvious error in the scoring is worse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevinL Posted November 15, 2006 Share Posted November 15, 2006 Colston is a WR He is not a TE Reality sucks for yahoo... But Yahoo! has him at TE. And this unless the league has rules that specify differently, the league accepts the Yahoo! position eligibility. What if I had another good TE but dropped / traded him as I had Colston? Then later in the year the league votes that I can't use Colston as TE. That is certainly not fair to the team that is playing by the accepted rules. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boilerduff Posted November 15, 2006 Share Posted November 15, 2006 OK...i appreciate teh feedback. THe league voted and it was against me 8-2.......but I still think this is due to me winning a ton of late. I think this is BS....what shoudl I do This league is a bunch of butt munchers. I'm a commish and You can't change the rules mid season. This goes for wierd scoring and anything like this colston deal. It should have been addresed early, the first time you played him as a TE. This vote wouldn't be happeneing if colston was not doing well. A leauge vote, the teams will do what is best for their team, not be fair or just. I've seen it too many times. To me, Free leauge, I would drop all my players onto waivers and tell them to kiss your Butt. Money league, play it out, and find a new league next year. Bitching the entire time. If it is a friends league, and you want to stay in it, you need to make a rule that the rules can't change mid season. Make a rule that positions are determined by your site, and that is the final word. The league is set up is the same for everyone. It is therefore fair, and equal, even if it doesn't make logical sense. Everyone had a chance to pick up colston, everyone had a chance to draft colston. Therfore, everyone had a chance to play him as TE. This is complete unadulterated Crapo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duchess Jack Posted November 15, 2006 Share Posted November 15, 2006 I played numerous teams he knew about the move. There was nothing shady about it. I didnt make the rules on Yahoo. Even yahoo is not making the change. There is everything shadey about it. He is not a tightend. He is a wide. You have been winning because yahoo fracked up. A real man would have gone to their commish a while ago to have him change it - even if he needs to enter colstons points manually each week (as that is a commishes job). Its an issue of character. And to cry when it is going to be changed?!?! I agree that this is a bad time to change it - when you are playing the commish - but it does not change the fact that what you were doing is a passive form of cheating. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolv Posted November 15, 2006 Share Posted November 15, 2006 OK...i appreciate teh feedback. THe league voted and it was against me 8-2.......but I still think this is due to me winning a ton of late. I think this is BS....what shoudl I do You gotta deal with it. Trust me - I know the feeling. Got in a league this year with a guy thats never commished before. I got an adjustment added to my team this past week: -6 points. WTH??? Turns out that my KICKER (Feely) was given -6 because his kick got run back for a TD. He said that since QB int return for TDs are -6 for the QB, that this should apply to my kicker. Huh? Its not even in our rules! Hell, fumble returns for TDs don't even go against individuals, so there's no basis to this logic. He put it up to league vote, and the morons voted to have me lose 6 points. I still won, but its the principal of the matter. I'm second in points scored (wonder if that didn't factor into that joke of the vote?), and the points total winner gets 70% of the FA pot. I if I lose that 70% of the pot $$ by 6 points or less I'm gonna take a dump in his hot tub... The only thing you can do is either leave the league after seasons end, or bring up the issue at the league meeting after the season to make sure idiocy like that doesn't take place again.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duchess Jack Posted November 15, 2006 Share Posted November 15, 2006 You are an idiot.....I played by the rules ad did nothing shady at all. I have not been winning because of Colston....I beat the Commish by 100 pts Whatever dude. You are the person posting on this issue. If you don't want to hear opinions that you do not agree with, then you might want to put that in the original post. Cheater. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolv Posted November 15, 2006 Share Posted November 15, 2006 There is everything shadey about it. He is not a tightend. He is a wide. You have been winning because yahoo fracked up. A real man would have gone to their commish a while ago to have him change it - even if he needs to enter colstons points manually each week (as that is a commishes job). Its an issue of character. And to cry when it is going to be changed?!?! I agree that this is a bad time to change it - when you are playing the commish - but it does not change the fact that what you were doing is a passive form of cheating. Thats BS. This has everything to do with a commish standing back and letting this team beat other owners with Colston at the TE position, then wanting to suddenly change the rule when it benefits him. THATS whats shady. As someone said before, if he wasn't doing so well this would never be an issue. I think EVERYONE agrees that Yahoo screwed the pooch on this one, but you cannot fault the owner for using him at either position if it wasn't addressed and agreed upon by all EARLY in the season to use him only as a WR. You know very well that changing rules midseason is a big Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duchess Jack Posted November 15, 2006 Share Posted November 15, 2006 (edited) Thats BS. This has everything to do with a commish standing back and letting this team beat other owners with Colston at the TE position, then wanting to suddenly change the rule when it benefits him. THATS whats shady. As someone said before, if he wasn't doing so well this would never be an issue. I think EVERYONE agrees that Yahoo screwed the pooch on this one, but you cannot fault the owner for using him at either position if it wasn't addressed and agreed upon by all EARLY in the season to use him only as a WR. You know very well that changing rules midseason is a big I agree that the commish is an aszhat for letting this go and he is a low character one at that for changing it only when he was playing AO. But there is an issue of personal responsibility that it does not appear AO exercized. Why would someone want points that they obviously did not deserve? How could someone be proud of their team and its accomplishments? Why not go to the commish as soon as the error is found out and ask him to change things. Yahoo or not, points can be entered manually by the commish. edited to add: I am a Colston owner in 3 of 4 leagues. Now, I never had an option to play him as a tight end - but I wouldn't. I mean heck... would a Colston owner in another sevice (MFL) be correct in arguing until Colston as able to be played as a TE? I am thinking not. Why? Because he isn't one. Edited November 15, 2006 by Duchess Jack Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chiefjay Posted November 15, 2006 Share Posted November 15, 2006 (edited) If you are using Colston as a TE then you are only cheating yourself and if you win your championship it will be a hollow championship. Edited November 15, 2006 by chiefjay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage Beatings Posted November 15, 2006 Share Posted November 15, 2006 It's a Yahoo league. Nobody should ever lose any sleep over anything that happens in a Yahoo league. Expect the worst and move along. However, to the point, your Commish seems to have overstepped his boundaries by making a mid-season ruling that only affects your team. If the weak-ass Yahoo website wants to allow you to use Colston as a TE (especially if you drafted him and have played him as a TE) then you should be able to continue to benefit from everybody else's stupidity. If the Commish doesn't budge, then no big deal, you are simply in the same boat as everyone else who has been using a grown up FF website all along, and that's being stuck with one of the greatest WRs out there this season. You pick up some scrub TE and call it a day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piranha-z Posted November 15, 2006 Share Posted November 15, 2006 I would say that if it wasn't stated at the beginning of the year, then he should be used where ever able, whether it be TE or WR. We have the same issue in our league, and yeah I was pissed about it, but hey, if I had him, I would be playing him there. Yahoo isn't the only place that allows him at TE. ESPN Grid iron has him as a TE only. Now tell me you wouldn't play him there if he was available?? Our league goes by the rules of Yahoo. I wouldn't consider it cheating at all. I disagree with the ruling, but that's just me............. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NAUgrad Posted November 15, 2006 Share Posted November 15, 2006 There is everything shadey about it. He is not a tightend. He is a wide. You have been winning because yahoo fracked up. A real man would have gone to their commish a while ago to have him change it - even if he needs to enter colstons points manually each week (as that is a commishes job). Its an issue of character. And to cry when it is going to be changed?!?! I agree that this is a bad time to change it - when you are playing the commish - but it does not change the fact that what you were doing is a passive form of cheating. BS! If he's listed as a TE/WR in yahoo then that's what he needs to remain as the rest of the season. Period! This is not cheating at all! You are completely wrong on this matter! There is no way this should be changed. He should absolutely be able to play him as a TE if he is still listed as one at this point in the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duchess Jack Posted November 15, 2006 Share Posted November 15, 2006 Hey, AO.... is your name in reference to the Forgotten Realms Panthion? <=== me (and maybe you depending upon your answer) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MothAudio Posted November 15, 2006 Share Posted November 15, 2006 (edited) Rules are rules. If the governing body [private, Yahoo, ESPN, etc...] classifies any player for a given position then that is how they should be played. What if a player were to change positions mid-season, what then? Next year everyone should have a rule about this in their by-laws. I agree that these issues should be decided in the pre-season and that no rule changes occur during the season. If FF is supopsed to reflect real sports than the entire argument against his use is silly. The object is to win. When a coach gets a penalty called in his favor that is clearly wrong does he stop and ask the officials to correct it? No. Would he also be called a cheater... or stupid? I picked up Colston September 18th due to reports on his "performance output", regardless of where I played him. In the three leagues I'm in one questioned his use at TE and when put to a league vote I said I would only play him at WR. Another league I Commish they had no problem. And the same goes for another Yahoo league, where the Commish said use him at TE or WR. There was no howling about Cooley last year or Robinson this league, this issue is about sour grapes. The matter should have been decided before the season began NOT after seeing his production. What's the next thing their going to rule on? That LT2 can't be used because it's not fair to the rest of the league? Edited November 15, 2006 by MothAudio Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonkeyOne Posted November 15, 2006 Share Posted November 15, 2006 Once the draft has happened player positions are set in stone for the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azazello1313 Posted November 15, 2006 Share Posted November 15, 2006 (edited) if yahoo says he's a TE and you're playing in a yahoo league that uses yahoo's position eligibility, then he's a TE. yahoo should have fixed that a long time ago, but they didn't. any gripe anyone has should be with them. now if your commish came forward 8 weeks ago and said, "this isn't going to work....colston is a WR...yahoo may say he's also TE eligible, but they're wrong and we can't allow him in your lineup as a TE," that would be one thing. but to bring it up 11 weeks and 850 yards into the season the week you happen to be playing him is total chickenchit BS on the commish's part. i'd say the statute of limitations has run its course on this. if anyone had an issue with him being used as a TE, it needed to be raised a LONG time ago. IMO, allowing it to go on for most of the season constitutes tacit acceptance of yahoo's designation of colston as a WR/TE. your commish is an officious little pr!ck. Edited November 15, 2006 by Azazello1313 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chiefjay Posted November 15, 2006 Share Posted November 15, 2006 Once the draft has happened player positions are set in stone for the season. There you have it. Thread should now be closed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azazello1313 Posted November 15, 2006 Share Posted November 15, 2006 Once the draft has happened player positions are set in stone for the season. if he WAS drafted while he was listed as a TE, then i agree with you. but colston is a guy who didn't go in most drafts. i think if colston was picked up off of waivers, and a league or a league commish wanted to correctly limit his eligibility up to maybe 2 or 3 weeks into the season, i think that would make sense. but sitting on it for 11 weeks, and the commish only making an of it issue once the colston owner plays the commish is total garbage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slickvick Posted November 15, 2006 Share Posted November 15, 2006 I commish my league at EA sports and here is the response I was given a couple weeks ago when I inquired about it. Colston was drafted as a TE out of college and was listed on the Saints depth chart as a TE for most of the pre-season (until Stallworth was traded), this is when most leagues hold there fantasy drafts so we were unable to take away his TE eligibility.He is currently eligible at TE and WR. The commish service does give the option of the league commish to take eligibility away from any player. Under the league commish use the link 'update player eligibility'. I have taken the path of not changing it.All in the league agree that what the site has is what we will go with.Yes it is wrong but I am not changing it now.I can see where this statement may hold up as the Saints did get rid of Zach Hilton at the beginning of the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AO Posted November 15, 2006 Author Share Posted November 15, 2006 Hey, AO.... is your name in reference to the Forgotten Realms Panthion? <=== me (and maybe you depending upon your answer) right Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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