lawn saver Posted November 21, 2006 Share Posted November 21, 2006 I just lost McNabb and Eli is my back up and I am thinking of dropping both of them and pick 2 new QBs. Maybe Harrington and Garcia.... It is just painful to watch him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Score 1 Posted November 21, 2006 Share Posted November 21, 2006 Struggling to live up to the family name, isn't he? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LooGie Posted November 21, 2006 Share Posted November 21, 2006 Struggling to live up to the family name, isn't he? i think it's obvious that he's lost alot of confidence. the Bears chewed them up, and he just can't find a rhythm with his receivers. off the fingertips, behind the receivers, to the back shoulders..he's all over the receiver, everywhere but between the numbers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muck Posted November 21, 2006 Share Posted November 21, 2006 He's still young and has had a couple of lousy games in a row. Too early to start freaking out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Score 1 Posted November 21, 2006 Share Posted November 21, 2006 He's still young and has had a couple of lousy games in a row. Too early to start freaking out. Problem is, Eli went into a funk right about this time last year too. It's not just a couple of lousy games in a row, it's now two years in a row. New York is a pressure cooker & maybe the kid just can't hack it? Probably would be doing better in a less intense sports city without the stress. Somewhere a little more laid back...somewhere like San Diego perhaps? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ursa Majoris Posted November 21, 2006 Share Posted November 21, 2006 Problem is, Eli went into a funk right about this time last year too. It's not just a couple of lousy games in a row, it's now two years in a row. New York is a pressure cooker & maybe the kid just can't hack it? Probably would be doing better in a less intense sports city without the stress. Somewhere a little more laid back...somewhere like San Diego perhaps? There could be some truth in this. Peyton certainly didn't have to deal with NY's rabid idiot media while he was going 3-13 his first year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H8tank Posted November 21, 2006 Share Posted November 21, 2006 Take heart, at least he's not as bad as ben. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LosGatosEnFuegos Posted November 21, 2006 Share Posted November 21, 2006 (edited) As a fan of both the Giants and Chargers, the Rivers/Manning deal has been a little hard to deal with. It's really making the Giants look bad right about now. Why was it that Eli refused to go to SD exactly? Was he pulling an Elway where he just didn't want to be with a team that was so bad? Accent on the was. Edited November 21, 2006 by LosGatosEnFuegos Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rebdog Posted November 21, 2006 Share Posted November 21, 2006 As a Charger fan and someone who traded Eli Manning for Philip Rivers and a high future draft pick after week #1, let me just say "phewww" and To me, this looks good on Eli. Play where you're drafted!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmarc117 Posted November 21, 2006 Share Posted November 21, 2006 why does he looks like he is going to cry all the time...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T_bone65 Posted November 21, 2006 Share Posted November 21, 2006 Take heart, at least he's not as bad as ben. Menudo's filtering on the name Ben must not be working since he hasn't repsonded to this yet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Posted November 21, 2006 Share Posted November 21, 2006 i think it's obvious that he's lost alot of confidence. the Bears chewed them up, and he just can't find a rhythm with his receivers. off the fingertips, behind the receivers, to the back shoulders..he's all over the receiver, everywhere but between the numbers. He really looks lost. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Posted November 21, 2006 Share Posted November 21, 2006 As a fan of both the Giants and Chargers, the Rivers/Manning deal has been a little hard to deal with. It's really making the Giants look bad right about now. Why was it that Eli refused to go to SD exactly? Was he pulling an Elway where he just didn't want to be with a team that was so bad? Accent on the was. Ask his father. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockerbraves Posted November 21, 2006 Share Posted November 21, 2006 Expectations are abit too high for Eli to live up to. He's certainly not the Joe Namath New York type but more the Phil Simms type. Wonder what might have been if he had won the Manning game at the beginning of the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigrocks Posted November 21, 2006 Share Posted November 21, 2006 As a Bama fan, I see a good number of SEC games and I watched both Eli and Peyton in their college years. It may be an over generalization, but even at Tennessee, Peyton appeared to be cooler and more aware of what defenses were throwing at him. In the NFL, he has become the ultimate student of the game. Eli on the other hand never appeared that way at Ole Miss… He was a good athlete who relied primarily on his natural ability to throw the ball all over the field. Most of the time, it was in the general vicinity of his receivers so he racked up some pretty gaudy numbers. Problem is, accuracy and coolness count big in the NFL, and until he gets more of those attributes, Eli will be an average QB at best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peepinmofo Posted November 21, 2006 Share Posted November 21, 2006 Expectations are abit too high for Eli to live up to. He's certainly not the Joe Namath New York type but more the Phil Simms type. Wonder what might have been if he had won the Manning game at the beginning of the season. Despite the family name, he put the expectations on himself by refusing to play in SD. Personally, Im loving the fact that he pretty much sucks the big one. I hate him and think he was a baby to do what he did. He deserves to be a bust (not that hes there... YET). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gsmayes Posted November 21, 2006 Share Posted November 21, 2006 I just lost McNabb and Eli is my back up and I am thinking of dropping both of them and pick 2 new QBs. Maybe Harrington and Garcia.... It is just painful to watch him. That's the ticket, pick up two QBs that weren't good enough for the Lions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menudo Posted November 22, 2006 Share Posted November 22, 2006 Menudo's filtering on the name Ben must not be working since he hasn't repsonded to this yet I'm not sure if you know it or not, but, H8tank is 'the meanest of the meanest of the mean around here' Since insulting, internet tough-guys are always really tough in real life , I'm too afraid to respond to his fishing comments....... Now, he will come up with a clever way to insult me through my name, and probably throw in a 'The only 6 time Super Bowl Winners and YOUR DADDY' reference......very scary Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonorator Posted November 22, 2006 Share Posted November 22, 2006 all the maneuvering by eli and the mannings to not go to SD not only landed rivers, but merriman as well. double ouch for giant fans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueCrue Posted November 23, 2006 Share Posted November 23, 2006 As a Charger fan and someone who traded Eli Manning for Philip Rivers and a high future draft pick after week #1, let me just say "phewww" and To me, this looks good on Eli. Play where you're drafted!! wow... that's interesting. So you basically did the same real life deal. Kinda cool... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McBoog Posted November 23, 2006 Share Posted November 23, 2006 SD fans LOVE the fact he is sucking nad like it even more that we have Rivers INSTEAD of him! In his defense, I think the Giants gave up on Warner too soon and should have let Eli ride the pine for a season or so, as did Rivers. I know that Rivers is better because of it, and being a student of the game and learning how to prepare for a game from Brees. I have heard though, that Eli is not quite as dedicated to the study and preparation part of the game as is big bro OR Rivers. AJ sure pulled a coup with that deal, one that practically "fixed" the immediate past's problems. AJ Smith is the reason for the Charger's success! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stylez Posted November 23, 2006 Share Posted November 23, 2006 (edited) I am a HUGE NYG fan as I lived in NY all my life and I follow them religiously. With that said I am a huge football fan in general too. You HAVE to give credit to the Chargers for MANY reasons. Follow this for a moment: In 2001 the Chargers had the #1 overall pick. In that year they had the the chance to take the most exciting, the most electrifying player to ever come out of college football (up till that time) so what do they do?? They trade that pick to Atlanta and Draft probably the best player in the NFL the past 5 years (yes we all know it was LT) also let not forget in the second round they drafted their QB Drew Brees who did very well for them and is now showing it was no fluke now that he is throwing for tons of yards in New Orleans. In 2004: Now we all know how this worked out huh? you had 3 QB's coming out Eli Manning, Ben Rothlesberger, Phillip Rivers. Eli had the Name, Ben was the most ready to play, and Rivers had the most Talent of them all. So SD made another great move and traded Eli for Rivers and the NYG 2005 1st round pick (which they took Shawn Merriman) Now as a Giant fan, during that draft the rumor flew around all leading up that we coudl get Eli. I seen Eli play in ole miss and he never played against any great college competition. He never impressed me playing their either. So when the Giants Drafted Rivers I was estatic. Then I seen the trade and was kinda miffed that we gave up way too much for a name. Especially since if you go through the history of all profesional sports, name me a Brother combo were both brothers were Great players?? You can't...there never was 2 brothers who played the same sport who were both great players. So we all know Peyton got all the talent in the family and while Eli is ok that's all he ever will be is ok. Even Tiki and Ronde, Tiki is great and Ronde is ok, but Ronde is not a great player... So now we have Eli in NY who has to live up to his Fathers name, his Brothers name, the NY hype and media . It alot of pressure for anyone! though i NEVER seen a person who has gotten more then he did just cause his name is Manning. If we were talking about Eli Shwartz he woulda never went 1st overall, he never would have been taken in the first round over Big Ben or Rivers. So it's now on Eli if he is going to improve or if he is goign to keep trying to get by on raw skills and name recognition or start doing something his brother never will do (win a Superbowl Title!) Edited November 23, 2006 by Stylez Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rebdog Posted November 23, 2006 Share Posted November 23, 2006 wow... that's interesting. So you basically did the same real life deal. Kinda cool... having Eli on my dynasty team never sat well with me. and after seeing Rivers vs. Oakland, even though he threw only 11 passes, you could see the command he had to be a leader. i can't say i expected this much this soon though. i'm sure the guy i traded with thought he was getting a sweet deal. but all this being said, Eli will be OK. he's early in his career. i think he'll grow into more of a leader and take control of the huddle and guys like Burress and Shockey. his biggest flaws are his name and that he was traded for Rivers and Merriman. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ursa Majoris Posted November 23, 2006 Share Posted November 23, 2006 Especially since if you go through the history of all profesional sports, name me a Brother combo were both brothers were Great players?? You can't...there never was 2 brothers who played the same sport who were both great players. Stepping outside football, the brothers Jack and Bobby Charlton would argue against - they were both in England's World Cup winning team in 1966 and had very lengthy international careers. Apart from that, Ronde and Tiki might argue too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaP'N GRuNGe Posted November 23, 2006 Share Posted November 23, 2006 As a Charger fan and someone who traded Eli Manning for Philip Rivers and a high future draft pick after week #1, let me just say "phewww" and To me, this looks good on Eli. Play where you're drafted!! I think I'm starting Eli this week over Rivers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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