sundaynfl Posted November 22, 2006 Share Posted November 22, 2006 More controversy from Dove Valley Adam Schefter reprorted on the NFL Network that unless Plummer has an incredible game on Thursday Cutler will probably start the Seahawks game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i_am_the_swammi Posted November 22, 2006 Share Posted November 22, 2006 via CBS: The News The Broncos are benching Jake Plummer, but the move won't come until after their upcoming game. NFL.com's Adam Schefter reported that rookie Jay Cutler will likely start when the Broncos host the Seahawks on December 3. Plummer will start this Thursday against the Chiefs. Our View Will Mike Shanahan trust Cutler any more than he has Plummer? That's tough to predict, but it may be worth a gamble. The Broncos finish the season against the Cardinals, Bengals and 49ers, three bottom-tier pass defenses. We usually don't recommend betting on rookie quarterbacks, but Cutler is worth a look in deeper leagues and if your current backup passer is a dud. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theeohiostate Posted November 22, 2006 Share Posted November 22, 2006 Complete and unsubstantiated speculation it appears. No way Shanny or anyone in Denver gives out this info. 2 weeks in advance. We are specualate at some point Shanny will go to Cutler if Plummer's play continues to decline, seems Adam has just put a date on it is all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azazello1313 Posted November 22, 2006 Share Posted November 22, 2006 i speculated the same thing here a couple days ago, and i'm sure adam schefter's talked to more people in the organization than i have (0). but i'm sure it's totally dependent on plummer's performance tomorrow. if he plays moderately well and, more importantly, the broncos win, i highly doubt we see cutler this year. but if he stinks up the joint...yeah, i think it happens. something to keep in mind...after thursday's game, there's 10 days, then we play seattle (21st ranked defense in the league), san diego (14th ranked), arizona (26th), cincinnati (25th), and san francisco (32nd). if EVER there were a time to plug in a rookie QB heading into a playoff run, this is it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Potman Posted November 22, 2006 Share Posted November 22, 2006 Complete and unsubstantiated speculation it appears. Almost everyone said the same thing a few weeks ago when there was only 1 source saying Mike Bell was going to be inactive. Take it for what it's worth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caveman_Nick Posted November 22, 2006 Share Posted November 22, 2006 if EVER there were a time to plug in a rookie QB heading into a playoff run, this is it. It's fun to watch the Broncos implode. Think about that for a second...that the team is making a playoff run in and of itself is enough not to make a change IMO. You keep seeing the stat flashed that talks about Plummer's record as a starting QB in Den, but regardless of winning football games there's a constant lynch mob behind Plummer. No wonder he's struggling. All that criticism would get to anyone. So why not throw a rookie into the lions den to get ripped apart Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sundaynfl Posted November 22, 2006 Author Share Posted November 22, 2006 It's fun to watch the Broncos implode. Think about that for a second...that the team is making a playoff run in and of itself is enough not to make a change IMO. You keep seeing the stat flashed that talks about Plummer's record as a starting QB in Den, but regardless of winning football games there's a constant lynch mob behind Plummer. No wonder he's struggling. All that criticism would get to anyone. So why not throw a rookie into the lions den to get ripped apart The Broncos are not imploding... The Broncos are just looking at replacing a player who is struggling and his struggles really affect the offense. Now that teams have figured out that the only way Plummer can actually throw the ball by rolling out of the pocket on a bootleg there is always someone there to plant his ass. I am never a fan of starting a rookie QB, but when your starter has a 69.7 passer rating, 6 fumbles and can't throw unless he is outside the pocket... I am all for it! I think the offense will run a lot better with Cutler behind center. just MHO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FishFreak Posted November 22, 2006 Share Posted November 22, 2006 It's about time! If this is true what a huge distraction prior to playing this Thursday's game. How often does a QB change get announced the week PRIOR to making the switch? A rookie will always make some crucial mistakes but Plummer's play has been awful this year so this has to be viewed as an upgrade. Cutler seems to bring more big play ability to the offense. The Broncos definately could use some explosion in their passing game. I hope Cutler has good chemistry with Walker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
broncosn05 Posted November 22, 2006 Share Posted November 22, 2006 Shefter is a know-it-all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i_am_the_swammi Posted November 22, 2006 Share Posted November 22, 2006 So why not throw a rookie into the lions den to get ripped apart You're right...going with the youngster is a mistake. After all, I bet the Cowboys are really kicking themselves for benching their slow-footed mistake-prone veteran QB for a young kid with a cannon. I can see, with all the success the Broncos have had passing the ball, why the Broncos would want to stand pat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtomicCEO Posted November 22, 2006 Share Posted November 22, 2006 (edited) Think about that for a second...that the team is making a playoff run in and of itself is enough not to make a change IMO. You keep seeing the stat flashed that talks about Plummer's record as a starting QB in Den, but regardless of winning football games there's a constant lynch mob behind Plummer. No wonder he's struggling. All that criticism would get to anyone. It would be very difficult to make the arguement the the Broncos are winning this year because of Plummer. I would say that the Broncos are winning despite Plummer. He had a great year last year as "no mistake Jake". I don't know what happened after that.... probably the same thing that happened before that. He's not smart. Maybe Cutler isn't any better, but I'd say that even a step down from Plummer to the worst QB in the league is not a giant step right now, and it's not a bad time to take a chance on Jay. You'd be a fool to think we can continue to win like this in the Playoffs. Edited November 22, 2006 by AtomicCEO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caveman_Nick Posted November 22, 2006 Share Posted November 22, 2006 You're right...going with the youngster is a mistake. After all, I bet the Cowboys are really kicking themselves for benching their slow-footed mistake-prone veteran QB for a young kid with a cannon. I can see, with all the success the Broncos have had passing the ball, why the Broncos would want to stand pat. Stoooopid comparison. Cutler's a rookie. Romo had been involved in the Cowboys system for several seasons. There's also a pretty big difference in making that shake-up in week 6 versus week 13 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caveman_Nick Posted November 22, 2006 Share Posted November 22, 2006 It would be very difficult to make the arguement the the Broncos are winning this year because of Plummer. I would say that the Broncos are winning despite Plummer. He had a great year last year as "no mistake Jake". I don't know what happened after that.... probably the same thing that happened before that. He's not smart. Maybe Cutler isn't any better, but I'd say that even a step down from Plummer to the worst QB in the league is not a giant step right now, and it's not a bad time to take a chance on Jay. You'd be a fool to think we can continue to win like this in the Playoffs. Yeah, except that if you go back and look, you would find the same claim being made the whole time Plummer's been with the Broncos. I'm not arguing that the guy is setting the world on fire, but I am arguing that he is the best chance you have for success. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Dick Posted November 22, 2006 Share Posted November 22, 2006 Broncos will NOT go to Cutler this year. It makes absolutely NO sense to start a rookie QB when your team is in very good position for at least a playoff berth. This is just crazy talk. The only way they go to Cutler is when they are eliminated from the playoff chase. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt. Stanky Posted November 22, 2006 Share Posted November 22, 2006 The Broncos are perinial playoff contenders. I think Shanny knows that they can only go so far with Jake. Might as well see what this kid can do. It can't be any worse than Jake. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i_am_the_swammi Posted November 23, 2006 Share Posted November 23, 2006 Stoooopid comparison. Cutler's a rookie. Romo had been involved in the Cowboys system for several seasons. There's also a pretty big difference in making that shake-up in week 6 versus week 13 Really? How many game's had Romo started before they "threw him to the wolves" versus Carolina? That's the comparison worth noting, moran. And you're right, there is a big difference in making a shake-up in Week 6 versus Week 13....Week 6 gives you a game or two to see what he can do, then have the option to switch back. Week 13 is desperation time, and if Plummer in mediocre or worse tomorrow (and they lose, and thus fall out of the playoff picture and into 3rd place in their own division), it is DEFINITELY time to see if the team can rally around the youngster, if for nothing else, to light a fire under them. What has Jake Plummer done this year to make you think he is the guy the team will rally around? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azazello1313 Posted November 23, 2006 Share Posted November 23, 2006 It's fun to watch the Broncos implode. it's more fun watching them kick the patriots' ass. again. and again. and again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skilly Posted November 23, 2006 Share Posted November 23, 2006 Just a quick note to add about tomorrow's game: Denver NEVER wins in KC, especially in Nov or Dec. History tells us that KC will beat Denver, and more than likely Jake Plummer will help them do just that. I am all for making the switch now. Everyone knew that Plummer was a lame duck qb going into the season: he will not be with the team next year, and he has basically sucked this year, so they might as well bench him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Posted November 23, 2006 Share Posted November 23, 2006 If the Broncos are imploding what are the Raiders doing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spain Posted November 23, 2006 Share Posted November 23, 2006 Jake Cutler played here in Nashville for Vanderbilt. For those Huddlers that are not well versed with the Commodore program, they havent had a winning season since Skylive5 was knee high to a junebug. They play in argueably the best conference in college football, but their team always sucks and they cant really compete even with the lower echelon teams in the league. Cutler NEVER played for a winning team in college, and yet was named the SEC Player of the Year. Think about that for 1 second. His teams always had a losing record and yet he was the SEC player of the year. How often do you see something like that happen? Answer: NEVER! He ran for his life every single time he dropped back to pass simply because Vandys talent was so inferior to every team on their schedule. It was sick. But Cutler is just one of those guys who sees the field better than everyone else. I am 43 years old and have been an avid college football fan my entire life and I can honestly say that I have never seen anyone quite like Cutler. He may be a total flop at the NFL level. But he was nothing short of spectacular in college. He carried a very very bad team on his back each and every week against the best players in college. It was the most incredible thing I have ever seen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
devilwoman Posted November 23, 2006 Share Posted November 23, 2006 If the Broncos are imploding what are the Raiders doing? China Syndrome....? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caveman_Nick Posted November 23, 2006 Share Posted November 23, 2006 it's more fun watching them kick the patriots' ass. again. and again. and again. I have nothing to say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caveman_Nick Posted November 23, 2006 Share Posted November 23, 2006 What has Jake Plummer done this year to make you think he is the guy the team will rally around? I don't think it's about that. I think it's about his having the respect of his teammates after having led them to wins in approximately 2/3 of his starts as a Bronco. That respect is something that I am taking the word of reporters on, but I don't see why anyone would try to make it up. Cutler does not have the same regard. He can't because he hasn't earned it yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spain Posted November 23, 2006 Share Posted November 23, 2006 I don't think it's about that. I think it's about his having the respect of his teammates after having led them to wins in approximately 2/3 of his starts as a Bronco. That respect is something that I am taking the word of reporters on, but I don't see why anyone would try to make it up. Cutler does not have the same regard. He can't because he hasn't earned it yet. I think the point is that Plummer has completely lost the respect of his teammates, as well as the coaching staff, and they know they cant go deep in the playoffs with his mistake prone ass behind center... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caveman_Nick Posted November 23, 2006 Share Posted November 23, 2006 I think the point is that Plummer has completely lost the respect of his teammates, as well as the coaching staff, and they know they cant go deep in the playoffs with his mistake prone ass behind center... Have you seen anything printed that would indicate this? Peter King does a weekly radio interview in Boston each THursday, and last Thursday he sad exactly the opposite. That's what I have to base my thoughts on, but I imagine Peter King has connections there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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