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Everyone else has their own thread, so I figured why not. :D

 

Anywho, anyone think the Vikes have a chance?

 

Here are my thoughts:

 

The Vikes can't stop the pass. #31 in the NFL, 242.5 YPG, 12 TD's allowed.

The Vikes can stop the run. #1 in the NFL, 56.6 YPG, 4 TD's allowed. I understand that the stats are mildly inflated because there's no need to run when you can pass so easily, but the numbers are still impressive.

Chicago's defense is very good. Ranked number 1 in points allowed. You can move the ball on them, but they really clamp down in the red zone.

Chicago's offense is decent, but inconsistent. Minnesota's offense is painful to watch on most occasions.

 

So, what do I think? Well, IMO it will come down to Rex Grossman. I mean, if he has a good game against the suspect Vikes pass defense the Vikes will not be able to keep up and will lose the game. If Grossman can't move the ball through the air, I like the Vikes chances. If Grossman flounders, we'll see Griese either by half time or by next week.

 

This is also an absolute must win for the Vikes, so maybe the extra motivation will help.

 

Thoughts?

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Everyone else has their own thread, so I figured why not. :D

 

Anywho, anyone think the Vikes have a chance?

 

Here are my thoughts:

 

The Vikes can't stop the pass. #31 in the NFL, 242.5 YPG, 12 TD's allowed.

The Vikes can stop the run. #1 in the NFL, 56.6 YPG, 4 TD's allowed. I understand that the stats are mildly inflated because there's no need to run when you can pass so easily, but the numbers are still impressive.

Chicago's defense is very good. Ranked number 1 in points allowed. You can move the ball on them, but they really clamp down in the red zone.

Chicago's offense is decent, but inconsistent. Minnesota's offense is painful to watch on most occasions.

 

So, what do I think? Well, IMO it will come down to Rex Grossman. I mean, if he has a good game against the suspect Vikes pass defense the Vikes will not be able to keep up and will lose the game. If Grossman can't move the ball through the air, I like the Vikes chances. If Grossman flounders, we'll see Griese either by half time or by next week.

 

This is also an absolute must win for the Vikes, so maybe the extra motivation will help.

 

Thoughts?

 

As a Vikes fan, I'd like to believe they will sack-up and play well in a game(like Hugh said) they really need to win. The realist in me, though, says the Vikes O is pathetic lately and will struggle to move the ball at all against a very good Chicago D that no doubt is a little salty after last weekend. Also, as Hugh alluded to, the Vikes #1 rush D is one of those stats that is misleading. They are decent against the run, but their rank is more a product of opponents passing at will on them and not bothering with the run.

 

If Chicago commits to the run and pounds MN w/ Jones, unfortunately, I think the Vikes surrender their first 100 yd rushing game to an opponent this week and multiple scores. Might not happen in the first half, but by the 3rd and especially the 4th qtr, the Vikes D is going to be tired from being on the field all day.

 

-this Vikes fan's bleak opinion :D

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I think this game will be competitive (Viking fan speaking) for a couple of reasons. I do not think the pass defense is the main reason the Vikes stop the run. The pass defense has at times been good, at least early in the year, and the run defense has been top notch. I don't see any reason to think that the Bears will have more success on the ground than other good running teams, especially considering the Vikes probably will look at the game films showing Grossman's problems when hurried. The defensive schemes have allowed the linebackers and defensive backs to support the run, perhaps to the detriment of pass defense, I don't know.

 

I was hoping the Bears would get the win against the Pats, which would have had them a little more relaxed this week, I would guess. These two teams seemingly always play close games, and the Vikes were one fumble from probably winning the earlier matchup (albeit when they were playing better). There should be no real reason for the Bears to be too pumped up for this game, but they should come to play at home after a loss.

 

I think the return of Marcus Robinson helps the passing (and subsequently the run) "attack" and they will go deep to him in this game. Hopefully the Vikes will continue to work Wiggins into the mix, as he can help move the chains - especially with the heavy pressure the Bears will put on Johnson. Would like to see Chester get some screens, too.

 

If the Vikes can come out early and make a game of it, I think this one will be a good game. I don't really think the Purple will win, but I think it will be within a TD.

 

Or, the Vikes will implode and they will get creamed...lol.

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I have a bad feeling that Grossman will have a very good day at home against the Vikings sad secondary. There's no way that Brad Johnson will be effective against the Bears defense, but if we are lucky Chester Taylor may still keep us in the game by grinding out the clock.

 

I think it will more come down to special teams and turn overs. If the Vikes can get lucky on a kick return or an interception, then they might have a shot.

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Everyone else has their own thread, so I figured why not. :D

 

Anywho, anyone think the Vikes have a chance?

 

Here are my thoughts:

 

The Vikes can't stop the pass. #31 in the NFL, 242.5 YPG, 12 TD's allowed.

The Vikes can stop the run. #1 in the NFL, 56.6 YPG, 4 TD's allowed. I understand that the stats are mildly inflated because there's no need to run when you can pass so easily, but the numbers are still impressive.

Chicago's defense is very good. Ranked number 1 in points allowed. You can move the ball on them, but they really clamp down in the red zone.

Chicago's offense is decent, but inconsistent. Minnesota's offense is painful to watch on most occasions.

 

So, what do I think? Well, IMO it will come down to Rex Grossman. I mean, if he has a good game against the suspect Vikes pass defense the Vikes will not be able to keep up and will lose the game. If Grossman can't move the ball through the air, I like the Vikes chances. If Grossman flounders, we'll see Griese either by half time or by next week.

 

This is also an absolute must win for the Vikes, so maybe the extra motivation will help.

 

Thoughts?

 

From everything I've read and heard, from the top down, is that the only way you will see Griese is if they are up by 30 or Rexy gets hurt. I do agree though that the games outcome will have everything to do with which Rex shows up.

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I am forced to play Chester in one league, so I hope the Vikes can move the ball as other quality runners have.

 

I am also considering sitting DJax for Berrian in this matchup, in another league. I'm not forced to do that, just thinking Grossman may air things out a bit here.

 

HOWEVER, the midwest is gonna get SLAMMED by snow and ice, with really cold weather through the weekend. Gotta think that will dampen the passing a bit, eh?

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I should be going home for this game but I am selling my tickets off as I got lots of stuff to do on campus here in Greencastle. Grossman has played well at home for the most part. The Bears are gonna be hungry for a win after last week. This could be close early, but I see the Bears pulling away late. Oh yeah, Griese isn't seeing time in this one folks, sorry.

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We're talking about the Vikings, right? From Minnesota? The guys that gave up 405 passing to Arizona? Those Vikings? Just checking...

 

 

Yeah, and that's relevant because the Bears have comparable receivers to Boldin and Fitzgerald...

 

The Vikings will be down early 17-0 when Brad Johnson is knocked out of the game with a concussion. Tarvaris Jackson will march out onto the field and in a shootout he'll put the Vikings up on his shoulders and pull out the win in the second half, final score CHI 27 MIN 31. Viking fans around the world will rush out and buy their # 7 purple and gold spamshirts. And so the legend begins. :D

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The Vikings will be down early 17-0 when Brad Johnson is knocked out of the game with a concussion. Tarvaris Jackson will march out onto the field and in a shootout he'll put the Vikings up on his shoulders and pull out the win in the second half, final score CHI 27 MIN 31. Viking fans around the world will rush out and buy their # 7 purple and gold spamshirts. And so the legend begins. :D

 

 

Where do I sign?

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We're talking about the Vikings, right? From Minnesota? The guys that gave up 405 passing to Arizona? Those Vikings? Just checking...

 

 

Wow, nice insight there Johnny fun bags, how long'd it take you to look up those stats? :D

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He's been benched. :D

 

 

 

Actually, it sounds like Troy is the one being "dropped" ... :D

 

By Viking Update Staff

 

Posted Nov 29, 2006

 

The Vikings celebrated their win Sunday at a charity concert Sunday night, only to have it end with a security guard punching Troy Williamson in the face.

 

Troy Williamson has had more than his share of problems this year. He leads the NFL in dropped passes, has been demoted from a starter to the fourth or fifth wide receiver on the team and has felt the wrath of the boo-birds from home fans.

 

But early Monday morning, he felt the fist of an security guard in what is said to be an unprovoked incident.

 

The punch came at Myth nightclub in Maplewood -- the site of a charity concert called Sharperpalooza, an event organized by Vikings safety Darren Sharper. The concert starred hip-hop artist Ludacris and the proceeds are earmarked to benefit the United Way and the Minnesota AIDS Project. But, as the party was breaking up, security officials escalated an incident that got Williamson involved.

 

Although the incident allegedly was not picked up by security cameras, one of the bouncers (off-duty Ramsey County sheriff's department officers) was ushering a group of Vikings players out an alternate exit to the club. One unidentified player was quoted as saying, "I'm a pro athlethe. Nobody treats me like this." As the security officers got more aggressive about clearing out the club, Williamson was struck -- apparently without any provocation.

 

The incident came the same night as Williamson suffered his demotion to No. 5 receiver on the roster in Sunday's win over Arizona. He had just one pass thrown his way -- a bomb that he dropped.

 

Coach Brad Childress expressed his displeasure with Williamson at his press conference Monday, saying, "He's a first-round draft pick -- the seventh pick in the draft. You've got to be able to catch the football."

 

Williamson declined to press charges from the incident. The Vikings had Tuesday off and Williamson's agent deferred comment to the Vikings, who declined to make a statement.

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Yeah, and that's relevant because the Bears have comparable receivers to Boldin and Fitzgerald...

 

The Vikings will be down early 17-0 when Brad Johnson is knocked out of the game with a concussion. Tarvaris Jackson will march out onto the field and in a shootout he'll put the Vikings up on his shoulders and pull out the win in the second half, final score CHI 27 MIN 31. Viking fans around the world will rush out and buy their # 7 purple and gold spamshirts. And so the legend begins. :tup:

 

 

 

 

:bash::clap:

 

I fear for Brad in this game. :D

 

It all depends on the Vikes O-Line. They were able to run last week over the right side quite a bit. With two new starters on that side with Whittle and Rosenthal. With Cook getting some time for Rosenthal. Supposedly Hicks and Johnson were to hurt to play. :D . Looks like the same for this week. I'll be interested to see how much of their good play was them, or due to it being the Cardinals.

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I have a bad feeling that Grossman will have a very good day at home against the Vikings sad secondary. There's no way that Brad Johnson will be effective against the Bears defense, but if we are lucky Chester Taylor may still keep us in the game by grinding out the clock.

 

I think it will more come down to special teams and turn overs. If the Vikes can get lucky on a kick return or an interception, then they might have a shot.

 

 

I thought the same thing when he played Arizona that Monday night, and look what happened?????????

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