detlef Posted December 5, 2006 Share Posted December 5, 2006 So I was driving home last night listening to an "insider" discuss the whole BCS mess and what he'd heard is in the works. Apparently, they're contemplating a "no rematch" clause. That's just fricking great. Certainly my feelings on this year's situation are well known and, in this case, I don't favor a rematch. But to just make that a rule? Let's say Michigan plays Tenn, Cal, and Nebraska out of conference and handles them all convincingly, then loses to Ohio St. I don't have a problem with the rematch. They've played good teams from other conferences and shown that they're considerably better. Now I'm cool with that because we don't need to wonder how good Michigan is relative to a Florida team that won a lot of close games in the SEC. Michigan came in and convincingly beat a SEC contender so the vaccum that I spoke of in my post is broken. Is that such a subtle thing that these idiots can't understand it? If they are dead set on keeping this crock of sheite, how 'bout this rule? To be considered for the BCS championship, you need to schedule at least two out of conference games against teams who have finished in the top 25 of the BCS within x years of that season (how ever far back you have to go considering how much in advance these schedules are made). Each team can play 8 confernce games, 2 good opponents and 2 cupcakes. Now, of course this will have it's own issues because you'll end up with somebody playing two teams that might have been good a few years ago but now suck, but you'll get a bunch of upper tier teams from all the conferences playing each other. That will make the regular season much more interesting and provide some evidence as to who is the strongest conference. If you want to pull a Wisconson and run up a gaudy record against a bunch of crap, that's fine and you may make another BCS game or at least play on Jan 1, but you'll get passed over for the title game even if you go undefeated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theeohiostate Posted December 5, 2006 Share Posted December 5, 2006 that's a complete joke if voted in. What if last season or this season, OSU and Texas finished #1, #2, even though they had played each other in the 2nd game of the season each year and are from different conferences? I don't like it one bit, another BcS reason to go to a playoff.............these clowns just don't get it, do they? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockerbraves Posted December 5, 2006 Share Posted December 5, 2006 that's a complete joke if voted in. What if last season or this season, OSU and Texas finished #1, #2, even though they had played each other in the 2nd game of the season each year and are from different conferences? I don't like it one bit, another BcS reason to go to a playoff.............these clowns just don't get it, do they? +1 The difference with this rematch is that it happen in late November. Surprisingly Michigan still would have made it in the NC if Florida would have lost. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boilerduff Posted December 5, 2006 Share Posted December 5, 2006 +1 The difference with this rematch is that it happen in late November. Surprisingly Michigan still would have made it in the NC if Florida would have lost. I am sure the voters would have found a way to not have the Rematch. LSU woudl all of a sudden be this awesome team deserving of the shot. PLAYOFFSSS PLEASEEEEE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockerbraves Posted December 5, 2006 Share Posted December 5, 2006 I am sure the voters would have found a way to not have the Rematch. LSU woudl all of a sudden be this awesome team deserving of the shot. PLAYOFFSSS PLEASEEEEE Don't think so, but I wouldn't argue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
detlef Posted December 5, 2006 Author Share Posted December 5, 2006 +1 The difference with this rematch is that it happen in late November. Surprisingly Michigan still would have made it in the NC if Florida would have lost. I'm not entirely with you on the timing of the loss. Yes, it is rather unsavory thinking of Mich and OSU playing back to back, but that isn't what bothers me. It really just comes down to the uncertainty that I mentioned earlier. The best thing that would have happened if Florida lost would be watching Sarge twist and convulse some more about the fact that OU should only have one loss and be in the mix. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockerbraves Posted December 5, 2006 Share Posted December 5, 2006 I'm not entirely with you on the timing of the loss. Yes, it is rather unsavory thinking of Mich and OSU playing back to back, but that isn't what bothers me. It really just comes down to the uncertainty that I mentioned earlier. The best thing that would have happened if Florida lost would be watching Sarge twist and convulse some more about the fact that OU should only have one loss and be in the mix. Think you misunderstood what I meant. Not against a rematch if Florida would have lost. In fact a rematch is what I was hoping for even after the Gators won since it would have meant that LSU would have been going to the Rose to play USC in a much anticipated matchup for Tiger fans. My opinion that the Gators should go to the NC is probably alot more objective than most. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWPFFL BrianW Posted December 5, 2006 Share Posted December 5, 2006 So I was driving home last night listening to an "insider" discuss the whole BCS mess and what he'd heard is in the works. Apparently, they're contemplating a "no rematch" clause. That's just fricking great. Certainly my feelings on this year's situation are well known and, in this case, I don't favor a rematch. But to just make that a rule? Let's say Michigan plays Tenn, Cal, and Nebraska out of conference and handles them all convincingly, then loses to Ohio St. I don't have a problem with the rematch. They've played good teams from other conferences and shown that they're considerably better. Now I'm cool with that because we don't need to wonder how good Michigan is relative to a Florida team that won a lot of close games in the SEC. Michigan came in and convincingly beat a SEC contender so the vaccum that I spoke of in my post is broken. Is that such a subtle thing that these idiots can't understand it? If they are dead set on keeping this crock of sheite, how 'bout this rule? To be considered for the BCS championship, you need to schedule at least two out of conference games against teams who have finished in the top 25 of the BCS within x years of that season (how ever far back you have to go considering how much in advance these schedules are made). Each team can play 8 confernce games, 2 good opponents and 2 cupcakes. Now, of course this will have it's own issues because you'll end up with somebody playing two teams that might have been good a few years ago but now suck, but you'll get a bunch of upper tier teams from all the conferences playing each other. That will make the regular season much more interesting and provide some evidence as to who is the strongest conference. If you want to pull a Wisconson and run up a gaudy record against a bunch of crap, that's fine and you may make another BCS game or at least play on Jan 1, but you'll get passed over for the title game even if you go undefeated. Why is it, that anyone who plays in the SEC, doesn't need to prove themselves out of conference, but Michigan apparently does (even though they at least played Notre Dame (overrated yes, but head over heels better than ANYONE florida played OOC), while Florida played a god awful FSU team as there toughest OOC opponent, and Western Carolina, who may very well be the worst team in Div 1A). Seems like a double standard. EARTH TO SEC fans, we don't ACTUALLY know your sh|t don't stink. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
untateve Posted December 5, 2006 Share Posted December 5, 2006 Why is it, that anyone who plays in the SEC, doesn't need to prove themselves out of conference, but Michigan apparently does (even though they at least played Notre Dame (overrated yes, but head over heels better than ANYONE florida played OOC), while Florida played a god awful FSU team as there toughest OOC opponent, and Western Carolina, who may very well be the worst team in Div 1A). Seems like a double standard. EARTH TO SEC fans, we don't ACTUALLY know your sh|t don't stink. In Florida's defense, we play fsu every year and typically, this is a tough game, against a ranked opponent, and our hugest rival. Western Carolina...well, I can't defend that one. And my fecal matter smells like roses on a cool, spring morning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWPFFL BrianW Posted December 5, 2006 Share Posted December 5, 2006 I absolutely agree, I'm just pointing, that their seems to be a major double standard going on here. The SEC gets the benefit of the doubt, even though they really don't fare any better in OOC games as any other conference does. I don't have any problem with the way this turns out, I'm simply saying... Michigan all of the sudden needs to prove itself against SEC opponnents, but Florida doesn't? Send the Gators to South Bend, I bet they don't hammer them like Michigan did. Better yet, send them to Austin, I bet they don't even get out of there with a win. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt. Ryan Posted December 5, 2006 Share Posted December 5, 2006 I was talking to a buddy this morning who is a FLA fan, and happy as hell his gators are in the Championship game. We dont agree they deserve to be there, but we both agree, LSU is the most over-rated team in the country. How that team is #4 with 2 loses, is the most head scratching thing about this college season. Then to give them a shot to validate that ranking by drawing the weakest BCS opponenet in Notre Dame in Baton Rouge, was simply the pollsters allowing this feel good story to continue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockerbraves Posted December 5, 2006 Share Posted December 5, 2006 I was talking to a buddy this morning who is a FLA fan, and happy as hell his gators are in the Championship game. We dont agree they deserve to be there, but we both agree, LSU is the most over-rated team in the country. How that team is #4 with 2 loses, is the most head scratching thing about this college season. Then to give them a shot to validate that ranking by drawing the weakest BCS opponenet in Notre Dame in Baton Rouge, was simply the pollsters allowing this feel good story to continue. Come on Sarge we both know who the weakest BCS team is. Think your OK team is playing them and yet the expert oddsmakers only have them an 8 point underdog to your might Sooners. You yourself brought up the point that the polls are an indication that alot more if not all of those responsible for grading teams have your team behind the Bayou Bengals. I'm confident you are a huge football fan like me so I know you heard the thing about the oddsmakers would have place Michigan a 6 point favorite over Florida on a neutral field. Well guess what? Those same expert oddsmakers also said they would make LSU a three point favorite over Florida on a neutral field as well. Little doubt if they were to do a "what if" with LSU vs. little Boise the line would likely be around 17 if not more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theeohiostate Posted December 5, 2006 Share Posted December 5, 2006 Come on Sarge we both know who the weakest BCS team is. Think your OK team is playing them and yet the expert oddsmakers only have them an 8 point underdog to your might Sooners. You yourself brought up the point that the polls are an indication that alot more if not all of those responsible for grading teams have your team behind the Bayou Bengals. I'm confident you are a huge football fan like me so I know you heard the thing about the oddsmakers would have place Michigan a 6 point favorite over Florida on a neutral field. Well guess what? Those same expert oddsmakers also said they would make LSU a three point favorite over Florida on a neutral field as well. Little doubt if they were to do a "what if" with LSU vs. little Boise the line would likely be around 17 if not more. I disagee Boise is the weakest team, i give that honor to Wake, i think Boise St give OU a great game, but manages to lose of some key turnovers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GOB1 Posted December 5, 2006 Share Posted December 5, 2006 So I was driving home last night listening to an "insider" discuss the whole BCS mess and what he'd heard is in the works. Apparently, they're contemplating a "no rematch" clause. That's just fricking great. Certainly my feelings on this year's situation are well known and, in this case, I don't favor a rematch. But to just make that a rule? Let's say Michigan plays Tenn, Cal, and Nebraska out of conference and handles them all convincingly, then loses to Ohio St. I don't have a problem with the rematch. They've played good teams from other conferences and shown that they're considerably better. Now I'm cool with that because we don't need to wonder how good Michigan is relative to a Florida team that won a lot of close games in the SEC. Michigan came in and convincingly beat a SEC contender so the vaccum that I spoke of in my post is broken. Is that such a subtle thing that these idiots can't understand it? If they are dead set on keeping this crock of sheite, how 'bout this rule? To be considered for the BCS championship, you need to schedule at least two out of conference games against teams who have finished in the top 25 of the BCS within x years of that season (how ever far back you have to go considering how much in advance these schedules are made). Each team can play 8 confernce games, 2 good opponents and 2 cupcakes. Now, of course this will have it's own issues because you'll end up with somebody playing two teams that might have been good a few years ago but now suck, but you'll get a bunch of upper tier teams from all the conferences playing each other. That will make the regular season much more interesting and provide some evidence as to who is the strongest conference. If you want to pull a Wisconson and run up a gaudy record against a bunch of crap, that's fine and you may make another BCS game or at least play on Jan 1, but you'll get passed over for the title game even if you go undefeated. How many games did the all powerful SEC play on the road out of conference? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWPFFL BrianW Posted December 5, 2006 Share Posted December 5, 2006 Come on Sarge we both know who the weakest BCS team is. Think your OK team is playing them and yet the expert oddsmakers only have them an 8 point underdog to your might Sooners. You yourself brought up the point that the polls are an indication that alot more if not all of those responsible for grading teams have your team behind the Bayou Bengals. I'm confident you are a huge football fan like me so I know you heard the thing about the oddsmakers would have place Michigan a 6 point favorite over Florida on a neutral field. Well guess what? Those same expert oddsmakers also said they would make LSU a three point favorite over Florida on a neutral field as well. Little doubt if they were to do a "what if" with LSU vs. little Boise the line would likely be around 17 if not more. I'd take Boise over Wake Forrest any day of the week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWPFFL BrianW Posted December 5, 2006 Share Posted December 5, 2006 (edited) How many games did the all powerful SEC play on the road out of conference? none. Well Vandy played Michigan in the big house. Edited December 5, 2006 by GWPFFL BrianW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
detlef Posted December 5, 2006 Author Share Posted December 5, 2006 How many games did the all powerful SEC play on the road out of conference? What difference does it make? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockerbraves Posted December 5, 2006 Share Posted December 5, 2006 How many games did the all powerful SEC play on the road out of conference? For one didn't the Gators go to Florida State? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWPFFL BrianW Posted December 5, 2006 Share Posted December 5, 2006 What difference does it make? Apparently a lot if you're the Big Ten, but not if you're the SEC. Notablly Florida. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWPFFL BrianW Posted December 5, 2006 Share Posted December 5, 2006 For one didn't the Gators go to Florida State? Ahhh... so now we are counting teams with .500 records? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockerbraves Posted December 5, 2006 Share Posted December 5, 2006 Ahhh... so now we are counting teams with .500 records? Sorry I was just trying to answer the guy's question and you said none then you remembered Vandy. I haven't researched it but I thought the Gators traveled to play Florida State. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWPFFL BrianW Posted December 5, 2006 Share Posted December 5, 2006 To say Florida State, I think that would mean you would have to constitute that as a quality win, which to be a quality win in terms of raw numbers, the team must at least have a winning record, which FSU certainly doesn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockerbraves Posted December 5, 2006 Share Posted December 5, 2006 To say Florida State, I think that would mean you would have to constitute that as a quality win, which to be a quality win in terms of raw numbers, the team must at least have a winning record, which FSU certainly doesn't. He wasn't asking how many quality wins or loses did the SEC teams play on road, did he? Personally I would count going into Florida State and winning as a quality win anyway. Not often those boys lose at home and I believe they are bowl bound. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt. Ryan Posted December 5, 2006 Share Posted December 5, 2006 (edited) Fla St at home would probably beat LSU. Their excuse is, they cant win on the road. Edited December 5, 2006 by Sgt. Ryan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockerbraves Posted December 5, 2006 Share Posted December 5, 2006 To say Florida State, I think that would mean you would have to constitute that as a quality win, which to be a quality win in terms of raw numbers, the team must at least have a winning record, which FSU certainly doesn't. Now you got me thinking. Thought of another one. South Carolina beat Clemson on the road, didn't they? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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