FishFreak Posted December 11, 2006 Share Posted December 11, 2006 Not from a fantasy perspective mind you but who's record is more impressive, Manning's 49 TD passes or LT's 29 TD's (and growing)? I didn't think anything could come close to Petyon's 49 TD's but I'm leaning towards LT's mark. It's a hell of a lot harder to score a rushing TD in the NFL than throw a passing TD. And LT's durability is simply amazing considering the pounding he takes. Every team in the league knows they have to stop LT and they still can't do it. It's not like the Chargers have WR's teams fear. The guy is simply amazing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slickvick Posted December 11, 2006 Share Posted December 11, 2006 Yeah I prefer LT's record.Manning throwing 49 was insane but he threw a bunch of 1-5 yard TD's that season and I agree running those in is a bit tougher. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Next Generation Posted December 11, 2006 Share Posted December 11, 2006 I'll take LT, too. Just because I like him better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muck Posted December 11, 2006 Share Posted December 11, 2006 Interesting ... I like LTs record too ... and I think I like him better as a person, never met either one ... going off of public personas only ... Which brings up an interesting point. Neither one has done anything in the playoffs yet ... and yet, no one is claiming LT can't win the big one. :hmmm: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azazello1313 Posted December 11, 2006 Share Posted December 11, 2006 i'm still going with dan marino's 1984 season 64.2% 5084 yards 48 TDs 17 INTs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ursa Majoris Posted December 11, 2006 Share Posted December 11, 2006 Out of the two, LT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xMRogers Posted December 11, 2006 Share Posted December 11, 2006 Neither one has done anything in the playoffs yet ... and yet, no one is claiming LT can't win the big one. :hmmm: Think that has more to do with position than the two guys (also age is involved here) QB's "status" is much more tied to team success than RB. Even if Payton had never won a SB, he'd have gone down as an all timer, and the lack of a ring wouldn't have come up much when comparing say him to Emmitt. However, compare Marino to Elway/Montana, and the very first and last words have "ring" involved. Other part of it with manning and LT is that LT's only in year 6 while Manning is what, Year 9? If LT doesn't have a ring by year 9, it'll start coming up, but more in a damning of the chargers than a criticism of him. You want to be teh QB and get the cheerleaders, you gotta take the pressure of being the leader.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xMRogers Posted December 11, 2006 Share Posted December 11, 2006 as to the question, depends really on where LT finishes. If somehting happens, adn he ends with 29 or 30, I may still lean towards Manning. however, if he gets 6 more (2 a game) and puts it at 35 and pretty much out of reach, go LT. (and if he gets something crazy like 11 more to put it at 40....it's up there with Joey D's 56 gamer and Favre's streak, which a few weeks ago we were talkign about and realized how unbelievable it really is) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wolf Posted December 11, 2006 Share Posted December 11, 2006 (edited) I am going to take the opposite view and say Manning's record of 49 td passes. Marino held the record since 1984 before Manning broke it. The single season TD record has been repeatedly smashed in the last several years. I am not saying it is easy to score a TD in an NFL game, but with the record falling four times since Emmitt set it in 1995 and three times in the last four years (see below) it seems easier to set this record than Manning's. With Manning's more difficult to accomplish, I would say that his is the greater season than LT's. Of course, if LT goes off and scores 10 more TD's this season, I may rethink that! Player Team Season TDs Tomlinson SD 2006 29* Shaun Alexander SEA 2005 28 Priest Holmes KC 2003 27 Marshall Faulk STL 2000 26 Emmitt Smith DAL 1995 25 Priest Holmes KC 2002 24 Edited December 11, 2006 by The Wolf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronco Billy Posted December 11, 2006 Share Posted December 11, 2006 (edited) I don't know how you compare the two. I do think Manning's record was a "perfect storm" kind of thing, where he was facing absolutely awful pass Ds in a lot of those games, whereas I think Tomlinson's record would have occurred against anything but a murderer's row of the best run Ds. Both were (are) spectacular acheivements that are underappreciated by the greater mass of the current pool of football fans. Edited December 11, 2006 by Bronco Billy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hat Trick Posted December 11, 2006 Share Posted December 11, 2006 LT by far Anyone got a update on how close he is to breaking the scoring record....some 40 something year old record? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bring Back Pat!!! Posted December 11, 2006 Share Posted December 11, 2006 LT by far Anyone got a update on how close he is to breaking the scoring record....some 40 something year old record? Should break that next week (or next TD). Record is 176 by Paul Horning in 1960 (?) 29 tds=174 points Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big John Posted December 11, 2006 Share Posted December 11, 2006 Should break that next week (or next TD). Record is 176 by Paul Horning in 1960 (?) 29 tds=174 points Correct, 1960. It was a 12-game season that year. But Horning holds the record since he was also the kicker then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azazello1313 Posted December 11, 2006 Share Posted December 11, 2006 breaking a record set last year is one thing. but it's pretty dam impressive when LT is breaking records set by leather-helmeted dudes who scored TDs AND field goals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big John Posted December 11, 2006 Share Posted December 11, 2006 breaking a record set last year is one thing. but it's pretty dam impressive when LT is breaking records set by leather-helmeted dudes who scored TDs AND field goals. The leather helmet went away by the early 1950s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bengal Mania Posted December 11, 2006 Share Posted December 11, 2006 Both are pretty impressive. Both players are clearly the best at their positions. I'd take either season happily for my fantasy team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnyfb Posted December 11, 2006 Share Posted December 11, 2006 LT2 in a heartbeat. I think there are a few QBs who could throw to Indy's WRs with such zest and success. There's something about LT2 that allows him to do superhuman things that other RBs just can't. Plus, watching LT2 is like watching lightning strike over and over again. I've been watching a lot of football while playing my Airplay play-predicting game on my cell phone - LT2 has such a field presence that I just haven't seen before. Peyton Manning can get hot, but half the time it just looks like he's fishing, waiting for the play to emerge. LT2 makes the plays. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muck Posted December 11, 2006 Share Posted December 11, 2006 Ok ... 24 TDs in a 16 game season = 1.5 TDs / game 40 TDs in a 16 game season = 2.5 TDs / game If a RB or WR gets 24, I think it's about the same as a QB getting 40 ... from a "wow, that's incredible" perspective. So, if each rushing TD is 'worth' about 0.6 of a passing TD, then Manning's 49 passing TDs would be 'worth' 29.4 rushing TDs. So, with LTs next TD, he will have had a more impressive scoring season than Manning ... however, Manning may still have a leg-up in terms of yards generated, etc. That said, from a scoring perspective only, 0.6 passing TDs to each 1.0 rushing TD seems like it's about the right relationship. PS - I think that each receiving TD is worth about 0.4 receiving TDs ... so, Manning's 49 TDs is worth about the same as Rice's 22 receiving TDs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muck Posted December 11, 2006 Share Posted December 11, 2006 Most impressive 'scoring' seasons: 1984 Dan Marino ... 48 passing TDs 1987 Jerry Rice ... 22 receiving TDs and 1 rushing TD (note, in only 73 touches!) 2004 Peyton Manning ... 49 passing TDs 2006 LaDanian Tomlinson ... 2 passing TDs, 26 rushing TDs and 3 receiving TDs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Swerski Posted December 11, 2006 Share Posted December 11, 2006 I don't see how one can compare the offensive seasons of QBs, RBs, and WRs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azazello1313 Posted December 11, 2006 Share Posted December 11, 2006 I don't see how one can compare the offensive seasons of QBs, RBs, and WRs. then you should read this thread and you'll see how one can compare them if one were so inclined. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Swerski Posted December 11, 2006 Share Posted December 11, 2006 then you should read this thread and you'll see how one can compare them if one were so inclined. Thanks, but I'd rather read the phone book. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muck Posted December 11, 2006 Share Posted December 11, 2006 Thanks, but I'd rather read the phone book. ...and yet, you choose to respond to it twice... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azazello1313 Posted December 11, 2006 Share Posted December 11, 2006 then you should read this thread and you'll see how one can compare them if one were so inclined. Thanks, but I'd rather read the phone book. ...and yet, you choose to respond to it twice... you should see him responding to his phone book. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keggerz Posted December 11, 2006 Share Posted December 11, 2006 didnt have a chance to read the thread.... for Manning to get a passing TD he needs the WR etc to catch the ball for LT to get a TD(rushing) he does it alone... i know LT needs blockers but so does a QB when he is passing...all I am saying is that for a passing TD to be successful then 2 people have to do something right for a Rushing TD its in your hands and honestly I dont know which is better but just wanted to add that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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