Grits and Shins Posted December 17, 2006 Share Posted December 17, 2006 A 7-7 record, a sore groin and a place on the side-line at the end of the 4th quarter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
broncosn05 Posted December 17, 2006 Share Posted December 17, 2006 Wow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Score 1 Posted December 17, 2006 Share Posted December 17, 2006 Question What does being the all time rushing leader QB get you? Answer $130,000,000.00 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grits and Shins Posted December 17, 2006 Author Share Posted December 17, 2006 Question What does being the all time rushing leader QB get you? Answer $130,000,000.00 I'd take it, in a fricking heart beat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chavez Posted December 17, 2006 Share Posted December 17, 2006 Question What does being the all time rushing leader QB get you? Answer $130,000,000.00 If my math is right, Falcons are 15-17 since signing Vick to that contract. Good investment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Score 1 Posted December 17, 2006 Share Posted December 17, 2006 If my math is right, Falcons are 15-17 since signing Vick to that contract. Good investment. Yep it was an excellent investment for Blank. Vick by himself, brings in millions upon millions upon millions of dollars for Blank & of course just as the 15 wins were not solely due to Vick, neither are the 17 losses solely due to Vick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grits and Shins Posted December 17, 2006 Author Share Posted December 17, 2006 Yep it was an excellent investment for Blank. Vick by himself, brings in millions upon millions upon millions of dollars for Blank & of course just as the 15 wins were not solely due to Vick, neither are the 17 losses solely due to Vick. Yes I would agree. Vick has put lots of butts in seats and as such has likely been a very nice return on Blank's investment. Unless Blank thought he was investing in a player that would win games and bring championships to Atlanta in addition to putting butts in seats. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
budlitebrad Posted December 17, 2006 Share Posted December 17, 2006 They're still in the basement as far as franchise value though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chavez Posted December 17, 2006 Share Posted December 17, 2006 Yes I would agree. Vick has put lots of butts in seats and as such has likely been a very nice return on Blank's investment. Unless Blank thought he was investing in a player that would win games and bring championships to Atlanta in addition to putting butts in seats. It's not very often that Blitz and I agree on anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grits and Shins Posted December 17, 2006 Author Share Posted December 17, 2006 They're still in the basement as far as franchise value though. So one might say that the worth of the franchise has not realized a growth due to the signing of Vick, largely because Vick has failed to generate wins and championships. But the signing of Vick has resulted in more fans coming to the games resulting in a growth in revenues. Essentially the signing of Vick has successfully generated revenue but not growth? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loaf Posted December 17, 2006 Share Posted December 17, 2006 So one might say that the worth of the franchise has not realized a growth due to the signing of Vick, largely because Vick has failed to generate wins and championships. But the signing of Vick has resulted in more fans coming to the games resulting in a growth in revenues. Essentially the signing of Vick has successfully generated revenue but not growth? pretty much Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Score 1 Posted December 17, 2006 Share Posted December 17, 2006 Yes I would agree. Vick has put lots of butts in seats and as such has likely been a very nice return on Blank's investment. Unless Blank thought he was investing in a player that would win games and bring championships to Atlanta in addition to putting butts in seats. Well a QB is certainly an important position & I think Blank feels pretty good about his QB. But it as you well know, it takes an entire TEAM to win a Championship, not just one player. If all it took to win a Superbowl was a great QB, Marino would have around a dozen rings & Peyton at least 4 or 5. Also, if I'm not mistaken, the Falcons have come pretty close to a Superbowl with Vick as their QB, haven't they? 2004 NFC Championship ring a bell? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grits and Shins Posted December 17, 2006 Author Share Posted December 17, 2006 Well a QB is certainly an important position & I think Blank feels pretty good about his QB. But it as you well know, it takes an entire TEAM to win a Championship, not just one player. If all it took to win a Superbowl was a great QB, Marino would have around a dozen rings & Peyton at least 4 or 5. Also, if I'm not mistaken, the Falcons have come pretty close to a Superbowl with Vick as their QB, haven't they? 2004 NFC Championship ring a bell? So you are arguing that Blank should not have made such a heavy investment in Vick and should have spent the money to build a balanced team then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TDFFFreak Posted December 17, 2006 Share Posted December 17, 2006 At least he's dependable in the NFL playoffs... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Score 1 Posted December 17, 2006 Share Posted December 17, 2006 So one might say that the worth of the franchise has not realized a growth due to the signing of Vick, largely because Vick has failed to generate wins and championships. But the signing of Vick has resulted in more fans coming to the games resulting in a growth in revenues. Essentially the signing of Vick has successfully generated revenue but not growth? How is the value of a sports franchise calculated? Forbes bases the value of a sports franchise on multiples of revenue. Most teams are valued at four times their annual revenue, but teams that are about to move into new stadiums or are moving into upgraded facilities have their multiple adjusted upward to reflect the added revenue the stadiums will generate. Teams that own their own stadiums are able to generate more revenue, thus, they are generally among the more valuable. Blank owning his own stadium is what would catapult the Falcons value more than any other single factor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Score 1 Posted December 17, 2006 Share Posted December 17, 2006 So you are arguing that Blank should not have made such a heavy investment in Vick and should have spent the money to build a balanced team then? No, Vick's contract is not the problem. McKay structured it in such a way that it is not a huge yearly cap hit. Hitting on their high picks & spending wisely on their FA's is the bigger concern. Their big FA's this year & last year (Hartwell & Abraham) have both barely played. Duckett has been traded away & to date, Jenkins & White are very inconsistent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N.I.B. Posted December 17, 2006 Share Posted December 17, 2006 A 7-7 record, a sore groin and a place on the side-line at the end of the 4th quarter. You get the "Carl Lewis" award at the end of the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retrograde assault Posted December 17, 2006 Share Posted December 17, 2006 130,000,000.00 just doesn't go as far as it used to does it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gasface Posted December 17, 2006 Share Posted December 17, 2006 What does being the all time rushing leader QB get you? kordels sweater Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MERLINS Posted December 17, 2006 Share Posted December 17, 2006 Answer: Endorsements and more endorsements. My little boys (7 and 10), still think Vick is the best QB ever. Amazing. Until he quit last night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spain Posted December 17, 2006 Share Posted December 17, 2006 Q:What does being the all time rushing leader QB get you? A: Herpes and all the Valtrex endorsements money can buy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tosberg34 Posted December 17, 2006 Share Posted December 17, 2006 I'm usually one of the Vick bashers on these forums but I have to admit he put up some good numbers last nite. Totally suprised me. All you Vick lovers out there will also love this: In my league we are in the first round of the playoffs and guess who my opponent's QB is? Yep, that's right, Michael Vick. So here I was expecting Vick to put up his usual pedestrian numbers (or worse) and he goes off and has his best game of the year. That's what I get for bashing Vick. Now I have some serious ground to make up. If this isn't irony or poetic justice then I don't know what is. No more Vick bashing for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ts Posted December 17, 2006 Share Posted December 17, 2006 (edited) Well, the 2006 Falcons will be the new answer to an NFL trivia question ... "what was the last NFL team to have two 1,000 yard rushers in a single season?" 2006 Atlanta Falcons Warrick Dunn Michael Vick 1972 Miami Dolphins Larry Csonka - 1,117 yards on 213 carries Mercury Morris - 1,000 yards on 190 carries 1976 Pittsburgh Steelers Franco Harris - 1,128 yards on 289 carries Rocky Bleier - 1,036 yards on 220 carries 1985 Cleveland Browns Kevin Mack - 1,104 yards on 222 carries Earnest Byner - 1,002 yards on 244 carries Edited December 17, 2006 by ts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WorstCoachingEver Posted December 17, 2006 Share Posted December 17, 2006 Q:What does being the all time rushing leader QB get you? A: Herpes and all the Valtrex endorsements money can buy I would actually think the reverse. That herpes makes you the all time QB rushing leader! Gotta keep moving to control the itching!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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